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  1. 1 hour ago, miker1102 said:

    I love listening to people talk about Page and Plant like they know them. We are just some fans on a forum who know little or nothing other than what we read. My favorite is the "how inconsistent" and "sloppy" page is as a guitarist after 75. By 1975 he had changed the sound of modern music, recorded some of the most compelling guitar solos ever played , sold millions albums, and broke attendance records all over the world.

    Addiction destroyed this band. Jimmy page is one of the best guitar players who ever lived. Case closed. 

    I don't need to know them in person, I have my ears and zillion bootlegs out there. For example, there's a big difference between Los Angeles Forum on June 25, 1972 and Earls Court in 1975. In studio, that's another story.

     

  2. 8 hours ago, Christopher Lees said:

    A great point. The problem for me, and I suspect a lot of us, is that we started as fanboys many years (decades) ago and had a lot to overcome. My first Zeppelin tapes were the early ones, like 4, 2 and 1. Then I got Zeppelin 3 and rolled with those four for a while. At the same time, I picked up the BBC sessions (back in about 1988, before they were officially released) and marveled at how awesome they were live. It was well known even back then, and even at the wise old age of about 14, that bands used "studio tricks" to make their vocals sound good and so forth, so when I heard the BBC sessions live (both 69 and 71) I was officially blown away. Then I picked up Blueberry hill and Heartbreak Hotel and I was convinced that Zeppelin were superhuman. Finally, I got TSRTS and I was a little befuddled at how Plant couldn't sing Rock and Roll like he did on the album. I thought he sounding kinda bad really, but I got used to it and besides, the band was smoking. All of this is what caused me to be a true fanboy in my teen years.

    Then I picked up Destroyer and Berlin 1980 and experienced some serious cognitive dissonance. For years I tried to find creative ways to rationalize the poor performances from 75-80. Eventually, I learned that there was no way to rationalize this and that drugs and unwise living had taken its toll. Simple as that. Now, so many years later, I'm at a point where I can look at the band as you said, without the fanboy rose-colored glasses and just see them for what they were, in reality. In "real" reality, and that actually adds a whole new mature dimension to my listening experience.

    1969-1973 no heavy drugs, 1973-1980 everything that could be swallowed, sniffed, injected or smoked. I only listen live Led Zepp from 1969-1973. Shame about their performance from 1975-1980, as my fav album is Physical Graffiti. But that's what we got.

  3. Led Zeppelin was a band that when they played well, they were the best in the world, mostly in the first years, somewhat in 1973, but after 1973, quite a few performances were good as earlier concerts. Plant's voice during 1975 was quite hard to listen to and sometimes very embarrassing. The 1980 tour was unnecessary, I think  Zeppelin came to their creative end in the 80's even without John Bonham's death. Plant's voice was far cry from glory days in 1971 and In Through the Out door was not a great album. Also, they should did rehearsal for at least week in 1985 for Live Aid, come clean and tried to be as good as Queen, without Phil Collins, same thing for the MSG in 1988. In many ways Zeppelin was inconsistent band, without middle ground, they were like gods at good nights, or deeply embarrassing on bad nights.

  4. Writer David Krebs made the case in Rolling Stone that Led Zeppelin’s live performances of “Whole Lotta Love” were the loudest on stage in 1970. But the year before that, the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association has already proven Zep’s big sound credibility by measuring a performance of “Heartbreaker” at 130 dB.

  5. On 10/18/2018 at 9:55 PM, nirvana said:

    Hey all,

    I finally received my LZXLZ book yesterday after almost a week's delay because it was damaged in shipping.

    The new one arrived in great shape and I am impressed by the quality of the book itself.

    The content is a whole other matter.

    If anyone is looking for real insight and unique postings by the band members - you'll be as disappointed as I am.

    Other than some un-seen photos and a paragraph here and there from the members there is nothing to scream or whisper home about. Sadly, this is as generic a tome about such an amazing Band as one can get.

    Yes, it's cool to look at the new pics, but so many landmark events from the stage years are missing or terribly passed by briefly that it left me wondering how much time Robert and JPJ really put into this project.

    And there is nothing to represent any personal life away from the stages to give us insight to their off-time other than the photos we've seen many times before.

    There is a cool pic of Robert and two elder gentlemen chatting...

    All in all, I put the book down after paging through carefully looking for those hidden gems...I came up with some nice pieces of stone but no rubys or diamonds. Disappointing to say the least.

    That said, this photo album to a newbie will be a great possession to own. Especially if they don't have access to the Internet - where many of these photos, and many better ones, can be seen with little effort.

    I have many books on Zeppelin, and to me they are by miles the most photogenic band in history. No one comes close.

    The LZXLZX50 trip down memory lane leaves me with nothing new and exciting to make a return flight. This is my opinion of course - I'm sure many fans will love it.

    Another let down after so much anticipation...does anyone remember the re-masters,,,??

    My thoughts exactly...missed opportunity. Oh well, let's wait for 100 years anniversary 🙂

  6. I put my Euro in the box and nearly fainted when the lights popped on. The colors were so fresh, every line so alive. It looks like Caravaggio had just put down his brush and stepped away. Probably to start a fight in the nearest tavern, but hey.

    Have you seen his Madonna of Loreto in Sant' Agostino? There is no other image of Mary and Christ remotely like it.The physical and holy fused in everyday life.

    No, I haven't. But it's near Piazza Navona. Thank You for Your tip, I will surely visit it. You are woman of numerous talents, really. I never thought that I will exchange my thoughts about Caravaggio with the woman that I saw billions of times watching TSRTS. Marvelous. I always found that two paesants who pray in front of Madonna have very common and familiar faces.

  7. I'm amazed. I thought maybe one or two people might respond, if any. That's how much I know.

    My art is very old school. Oil on canvas, occasionally oil on linen. I'm a big fan of the northern renaissance. Well, and Velázquez. And Brueghel. Caravaggio, especially his three works on the life of St Matthew in the Contarelli Chapel in San Luigi dei Francesi in Rome.

    World is small, I go every now and then in San Luigi dei Francesi in Rome to watch Caravaggio's work.

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