My podcast episode ranking the 1971 North American shows came out a few days ago if you still need help with this, OP: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/rock-talk-with-dr-cropper/id1518703647?i=1000491553234 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5FUEwa4XKcNUuTpU8QxfJj?si=XnYUFy6OQI2GquIEUZuj-w Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8xMTE5MjU0LnJzcw/episode/QnV6enNwcm91dC01NDcwMjQz?sa=X&ved=0CAQQkfYCahcKEwiI5YPSoIDsAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBQ

Yeah, 6/22 is my favourite '77 show. 6/22 6/21 6/13 6/26 6/23

That's funny that you had to come around to it. It's always been my all-time favourite show actually. Agreed on the Plantations. I also think it's a strong contender for Jones' best show of their career, which is interesting because he's so consistent that it's unusual for any one show to stand out as being far above (or below) the rest for him. Also, I'm a fan of 2/12 and it's obviously one of the best recordings, but 3/21 is unquestionably better IMO. To answer your original question, my opinion of 6/23/77 has actually declined a bit as the years go on. It obviously has some incredibly high peaks, but is also bordering on too loose/relaxed/jovial at times for me. I agree with what others have said about the Copenhagen '79 shows. Yes, Page is playing with great technical proficiency, but it feels kind of hollow to me compared to pre-1979. I might be in the minority here, but I'd rather make my way through a few flubs on his part in a decent '75 show because it has more feeling behind it (to my ears at least).

I ranked Zepp's studio albums, minus Coda, for this week's episode of my podcast if anyone is interested: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/rock-talk-with-dr-cropper/id1518703647#episodeGuid=Buzzsprout-5387995 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6lkL1aALsNrXAu9icdFJUe?si=JBR0JVMmRRGkZ8_fArx0_g Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8xMTE5MjU0LnJzcw/episode/QnV6enNwcm91dC01Mzg3OTk1?sa=X&ved=0CAgQkfYCahcKEwjAh5_YnuDrAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ

For sure. I dare say as good of a four show run as there was for any song in their career.

Definitely an overlooked NQ!

Hahaha, agreed.

Lmao, what an honour 🤓

Yeah, it's one that you definitely have to play fortissimo the whole way through on the skins.

Good call. It didn't even register with me because that's how I play it in order to get the effect lol.

To be fair, we can't say with certainty that he doesn't play on his own time. Just because he hasn't played for the public in years doesn't mean that he doesn't noodle around at home. I don't go on Instagram Live every time I sit down at the drums... Speaking of Instagram, have any of you seen what the Doors have started doing with this "Learn To Play The Doors" series? I watched the video of Robbie teaching "Love Me Two Times" and it was pretty cool. Whether or not Jimmy would have any interest in doing something like that (or be any good at it) is a different story...

Plant already has one called Digging Deep, not sure if you're aware...

Lmao about the poetry 😂 I agree that he likely wouldn't give the sort of insights about the shows that most of us would crave. Look at how he approached the deluxe editions of the albums a few years ago -- the debut was the only one that had live stuff chosen as the accompaniment. For the others, he instead elected to regale us with alternate takes and mixes which are of greatly varying degrees of interest IMO. I think this gives a lot of insight into the sort of thing he finds most interesting: minutiae. 100%. Jonesy is a witty and incredibly insightful interview guest with far fewer, if any, "off-limits" topics than the other two. Sometimes when they're all together he can hardly get a word in edge-wise, which is too bad, but if he had his own long-form platform like this, it could be really cool. Have you listened to Plant's podcast, @hummingbird69? I just recently got myself caught up on all of them and quite enjoyed most of them. P.S. If you're looking for Zeppelin-related podcasts, I started one recently. I'm obviously no Page, Jones or Plant, but here it is regardless: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/rock-talk-with-dr-cropper/id1518703647

Jones' bass in "The Song Remains The Same" alone is worth the price of admission.

I agree that it would have been exhilarating, but Achilles is a very demanding song for all four of them. I think it would have been much more inconsistently/sloppily performed had it been the opener. Opening with TSRTS was ambitious enough, let alone Achilles. Opening with a 10 minute song is also pretty unusual unless you're the Grateful Dead or some jam band that came after them. Rattling off a couple high energy ones in quick succession right off the bat gives the show a sense of momentum. Look at NA '73: at the start of the tour, in the first 17-18 minutes, they'd already been through RAR > CD > BD > OTHAFA without coming up for air, and even when they started pausing before OTHAFA, Plant's comments were very brief and kept the train rolling.

I think "Train Kept A-Rollin'" was a stupid choice in 1980. "Hots On For Nowhere" would've been cool, but probably too much of a deep cut. I like "Sick Again" in the #2 slot actually, and as Walter says, it fit the times lyrically. Agree that "Custard Pie," "The Wanton Song," or even "Houses Of The Holy" would've been cooler openers than "Rock And Roll" in '75. I'm not sure I'd agree that "Immigrant Song" > "Heartbreaker" was tired in '72...that was one hell of an opening combo. "The Song Remains The Same" > "Sick Again" would be tied with that as their best opener IMO.

I think you're right. The "Groovin' on the freeway..." verse seemed to get repeated a lot.

The only ones I've heard are from Chicago '73 and Minneapolis '75, but I'm far from an authority on this topic so there could be ones I'm missing. Both of those two I mentioned have lots of cool stuff though.

Thanks man 😊 It was a strange day to listen to a show with "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" in it, that's for sure. Birmingham is certainly a good show, and a comparatively concise one, which makes it a nice choice if you don't have as much time or are recommending to someone with a shorter attention span lol.

Ahh, thank you!

🤩 How do you know it's only partial?

Ahhh, The Year Of Led Zeppelin and Black Beauty letting me down! My apologies, @Annamilia 😅

I believe you're a week early with that, ma'am. That show was on August 17, 1970.

You're in for a treat then! 🍻 Pretty flawless IMO aside from Bonham entering a verse early in Stairway. It's the only one that I consider to be a challenger to June 21 & 22 for best show of the year.

Does that mean you haven't listened to June 13 yet/for a long time? Is it in your on-deck circle? It's always been my favourite of the MSG '77 shows. I agree with your assessment of the 11th.