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  1. Another issue is that on many of the guitar forums, Page isnt being accused of "being sloppy" after a certain period of time in his career. There are guys that firmly believe he was sloppy, as a live player, his ENTIRE career.
  2. My two cents. First off, I've been playing a helluva long time. I did my first paying gig in 1978, and, I'd love to be as sloppy as Page. The guitar forums are full of a bunch of keyboard jockeys who never play actual gigs, they just sit and home and obsess over the tone of their huge pedal collection, and are infinitely critical of those who do what they cannot. Namely, get out in front of a huge crowd, playing in a band, just you on guitar mostly, nobody else to hide behind, and rip it up for three hours. The guitar forums are the true "Din of the hordes". True, there are a lot of great players, but theres a lot more overly criticial wanna-bees. I couldnt care less what most of these guys think. I just get ready for the next gig I have. So there's that. What happened to Page? Its obvious that at some point, maybe starting in 75, that his playing became more erratic. Im not sure why but it could be attributed to hard drugs. I did read somewhere that it was suggested that for an entire year, roughly the end of the 73 US tour, thru 1974 until they began to record again... that Page did nothing but sit around in a castle somewhere and do dope. I have no idea if this is true, but... its not like in 75 he was a blithering idiot. Just listen to Over the Hills from Dallas in 75 or some of that stuff from Seattle. Jaw dropping good. I think the secret to all this may be that he, and the band, were constantly working from 1968 thru that 73 tour, with very little time off. Its possible that he was playing every day, or almost every day, who knows. After the 73 tour, time away from the band began to get longer and longer and it seems that with each long break, his playing continued to spiral down a bit. I really dont know why or what happened. All I know is, he was great, one of a kind, and it was terrific being a guitar player and trying to learn, in the 70s, when he was large and in charge and almost bigger than life.
  3. Heh. I blame the Swedish winter for that, and the probability that Frida and Agnetha were probably hanging around and batting their eyes at him.
  4. He obviously used the hell out of the toggle switch and the volume/tone knobs, even if it was all stock.... you can hear the changing tones clear as day on any Led Zep concert recording. I remember one interview where he said his Marshalls were great, he could go from a very clean sound to very overdriven, just with the volume knob. Its still a mystery to me, why Joe Walsh would drive hundreds of miles across the country to take a chance on selling a guitar to a rock star he didnt know.... or did he know Page by then? Nobody in Cleveland wanted to buy it? I dont know. The 60s were a crazy time, I guess you just had to be there.
  5. thanks for that. I didnt know the James Gang was already formed and released an album in 1968. But why Page? Did Walsh and Page already know each other? Or did Walsh take a wild guess and a leap of faith and just show up to a concert in NY with the guitar?
  6. Pardon me if this has already been asked a zillion times. Everybody knows the story that Joe Walsh gave, or sold, Jimmy his 1959 Les Paul, at the Fillmore East in NYC, in early 1969. Was Joe Walsh a famous or noted guitar player back then? How did he wind up in New York if he lived in Cleveland? Was he already on tour with a band, or, was he just a big Page fan, and he traveled from Cleveland to meet Page in NY and sell him the guitar? Has Walsh ever given his side of the story? Anybody know? Another question, this time about Page's #2 les paul, I think its the 1958. I've never read anything about where he got it. Plenty of stuff about the #1, but almost nothing about the alternate one. A friend of mine joked that Page never disclosed how he got it because it was stolen. There are so many myths about the guy its impossible to believe anything anymore! Anybody know where the 58 came from?
  7. thanks! the mandolin was played by Rick Price, formerly of the Georgia Sattelites (thats him in the video). I wrote the arrangement, played all the guitars (thats me with the hot rod flamed Tele) and the lap steel and recorded and mixed it. Any of you guys have videos of your stuff?
  8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wc1kpRay5c I cant quite figure out how to embed the video into this message like I can on other forums. Anyway, y'all enjoy, heres something from a little home studio project of mine... a country-twang version of Dancin Days. And hey, cant have a video about summertime without cute girls...
  9. I'd love to be as sloppy as something like his performance at Offenberg. As the 70s wore on, his playing did seem to degrade somewhat, but, on a good night, he was still a master. "mistakes" are often more musical sounding that clinical accuracy.
  10. I dont know. Havent you guys retuned guitar strings during a show? I've done it thousands of times. Its not like they break very often for simple retune to a couple of steps down or up. Still, again, thats from a modern perspective and perhaps it was different back then.I also wonder if perhaps his double-neck was an unstable or sort of prickly beast that didnt respond well to tuning. Jonesie once called it "The Aerial" because it picked up local broadcasts, either FM or TV, I cant remember. Maybe it was a weird beast and they didnt want to mess with it, or even touch it, any more than they had to.
  11. OK. Certainly they had Strobotuners behind the amps, back then. Still, I've used those, and they're a pain in the arse compared to even the crappiest tuner pedal we have today. I dont know, from the modern point of view, it seems weird to change the key of a song, because you dont want to tune 4 extra strings. However, given the time frame, that may have been the case. I also find it odd that in all the interviews he has given to guitar magazines, not once was this question asked... oh well.
  12. well said, and as good an explanation/speculation as I've heard. BUT Has Page ever spoken on why they did it this way?
  13. so they changed it to A, simply to make it easier to change it back to standard for Stairway to Heaven? That means Jonesie had to relearn/transpose the song just because the guitar tech couldnt change the tuning on 4 extra strings in time? that seems crazy to me, but, maybe thats the truth. Did Page ever confirm this?
  14. I know about the odd guitar tunings. I'm confused as to why its in A on the live albums and in G on the studio. Some people say he slowed it down after recording it for the studio album, resulting in a lower key and some say the band decided, for whatever reason, to raise it up a whole step when they began to rehearse it for the live show. Has Page ever explained?
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