juxtiphi
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Still buried in 1975
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4 minutes ago, Stryder1978 said:
NO problem The Rover 75! I liked some of the stuff he put out in the 80's and 90's, but it paled in my opinion to what Jimmy and David did on their single outing. For some reason I just think what Robert did with Alison just worked.
Jimmy plays his ass off on Coverdale Page!
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On 8/11/2016 at 8:33 AM, Walter said:
If it was complete, this show's WLL would be the absolute top of my list. Even incomplete, it rates very highly. Great, great show for sure!
whats missing from whole lotta love?
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4 hours ago, Jimmywalnutz said:
http://starship.jpn.ph/zeppelin/beauty/disp/pic.jsp?R_IDX=../../imagesB/SP-005B.jpgd
This has Dancing Days and What Is and What Should,,, I'm not sure of the dates. I have not heard of a SBD for Moby Dick.
I have it
Led Zeppelin, Long Beach Arena
June 27, 1972, Long Beach, CaliforniaSoundboard Recording
Master quads > DAT1. What Is and What Should Never Be
2. Dancing Days
3. Moby Dick
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34 minutes ago, Jimmywalnutz said:
That was a great run too. But what followed was legendary. The Baton Rouge show has a great AUD tape. I like it as much as the great SBD.
Listening almost nothing but Dazed and Confused 69-73. Trying to find the 5 best.
1/14/73 Liverpool on Godfather right now. The SBD is one of the worst. But it's a great performance
HaHa!
My playlist is
No Quarter
Moby Dick
Dazed And Confused
all the 1975 gigs in a row with some 73s thrown in here and there for good measure! It 's been playing 24/7 for months
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Moby Dick from Feb 8th 75, it's crushing!
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Been deep into Feburary 75 from the 3rd all the way up to the 28th.
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Vinyl!!!
The best medium ever for music.
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7 hours ago, sk8rat said:
too much money involved to just film them for posterity. 16mm and 35mm film were/are expensive. plus they have to have someone man the camera since they would have to constantly be swapping out the rolls of film. that means to get a perfectly synced show they would have to have at least two cameras otherwise there would be cuts between swapping out the film.
as for the angles. I would much rather have a concert filmed like royal albert hall than australia 72. looks a lot better imo. I could go on....
They got the editing wrong on Moby Dick at RAH, they totally mess with what you can see while John is doing is best moves by switching the camera angles back and forth so fast that you can't really get "watch" it. As if switching the angle made it better
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9 hours ago, The Rover said:
For posterity, at least one gig from EACH tour should have been filmed. Not the 8 camera variety. Just a single camera in the balcony, above the fray, with a wide shot encompassing the entire stage. The video screen footage presentation is *not* optimal. (I'm talking Earl's Court here)...
The logic being, when someone, anyone watches the film of the concert, they could direct their eyes to the part of the stage, and look at what they want to, when they want to.
You know... like when you're in the audience watching a concert.
All that, vs. the "MTV style" 2 second shots all the way through.
And for a multi camera shot, I would expect nothing less than the above, PLUS an isolated camera on each member whilst they are onstage.
That's all I ask. As a Fan.
I agree about the way they film concerts. I would actually prefer the audience angle from like the 8th row slightly elevated so that you can see the entire stage but from a spot in the aud that really allows you to "watch" the concert like you were there. The only close ups should be pertinent ones that focus on a band member during times when it makes sense to focus on them. Although I do like to watch EC. I find the The 8mm stuff to be the most interesting because it literally puts you in the seats unlike Earls court which is all over the place and a lot of close ups at the wrong times .
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This is my humble opinion.
In studio. Bonham was a literal minimalist, in concert he was over the top but in a good way. In studio He laid down a basic structure if you will (not saying his playing was basic) and in concert he expanded upon that structure any way he could.
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13 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:
Artie and the boys in NY '75 are hilarious, love those guys. I seem to recall at Nassau 2-13-75, during NQ someone keeps yelling "ice cream" or something similar. It's audible on the SB a well. WTF? The tapers
Its the ice cream vendor making his rounds, I love hearing that because makes me feel like I'm there.
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Play Sitting and Thinking!
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End of dazed 7-18-73
Person 1 "He's really playing very well this evening"
Person 2 "ahh, erratic, but really great at the beginning"
Person 1 "eh!"
Person 2 "Yeah really great at the beginning"
Person 1 'yeah"
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On 8/4/2016 at 5:04 AM, Crimson Avenger said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. Sorry for the essay, but I like to be thorough! I've never said Jimmy was lying about this or 73, but we're on the same page there. If you were to ask me about the 2007 incident, I might raise a more cynical eyebrow.
I think Jan14th/15th works perfectly! You make a very good point about the bow solo, I can buy that. But again you are right that it's odd that nether D&C nor HMMT appear in Brussels, which is at the root of my confusion. Whichever it is, that would seem to be high on the list of songs to play at a warm up show. Maybe they didn't take all the lasers/lights for the warmups, or maybe they were on a curfew for Brussels. What are your thoughts on the likelihood of the Brussels tape being incomplete? It is very short.
Re string bending, I'm not really disagreeing, but Jimmy is surely saying he couldn't bend strings with his ring finger. He bends plenty in those early shows. The D&C riff can easily be bent using the middle finger, in both the high and low register. I've just tried it again, and I actually prefer using my middle finger for that, lol. The faster heavy sections are more tricky, much as HMMT IMO is also hard on the ring finger because you can't avoid using it to hammer on for the main phrases. But that's OK, we know he played that one
But only Jimmy knew what he could and couldn't do at that point, so I'm more than happy to agree with your D&C point.
Oh for more info about Rotterdam, or to have been a fly on the wall at the 17th Jan soundcheck. The more I think about Jimmy's description of it as 'long and spirited', the more I think that suggests an air of panic, given his general turn of phrase. He came through with flying colours of course.
If we go by what Plant tells the audience after Moby Dick on Feb 3rd 1975 then he hurt his finger in England on the way to rehearsals and he blames the English train service saying "our train services aren't to good and Jimmy was trying to catch a train that was going without him and he caught his finger in the door and broke the tip of his finger"
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Great deal of back handed slapping in that article.
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5 hours ago, Nutrocker said:
June 10 '77 in New York right before "No Quarter", right?
Nice guess!, but it's from feb 13th 1975 "during" No Quarter
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"It's much better back here"
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"ice cream! ice cream!"
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1 hour ago, FavouriteTipple said:
Little things I don't like about Led Zeppelin?
Hmm. Well, regarding this forum, first up to call out are the numerous derogatory terms on this thread to describe Plant's wardrobe and hair like "fairy" and "girly" as if such things are somehow "bad" and not macho enough for some. As RuPaul might've said, fuck that shit and check your misogyny.
Another thing I don't like about Led Zeppelin is, to paraphrase Robert Plant in the 1990 MTV rockumentary, is often how wrong they got it in concert (as referred to above regarding set lists). I get why folk like their early stuff, but let's face it, even Plant has acknowledged that his first few years with Zep were full of vocally heliumesque histronics that are embarrassing to hear and kill listeners' enjoyment.
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What's he got on his head? It's a bowler hat.
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Jimmy You SUCK!!!
But only Jimmy knew what he could and couldn't do at that point, so I'm more than happy to agree with your D&C point.
So is Jimmy Page a 'sloppy' player?
in Led Zeppelin Newbies
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I saw a couple Page Plant shows from all their tours. In 98 Jimmy was playing extremely well but it's not Zeppelin so I'm in the "I'll take a 77 show over Page and Plant camp"