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ZepRon

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  1. Seems I'm not the only one who thought that sometimes Robert's voice can be over the top. I guess in a live setting that's understandable, though.
  2. Zep did "give in" and settle on other plagiarism suits - to use a harsh word - in the past. A musician I have worked with - who is not a big LZ fan due to precisely that aspect - had an interesting theory he floated by me in the last month: JPJ really did not approve of "sampling" (kinder word). Bonzo just ran with it, with Page and Plant having absolutely no problems with it. Hence, Jimmy's own joking words, "If you see JPJ, shoot him on sight". JPJ really isolated himself for some reason - and don't shoot ME - but maybe that was why. p.s. This is deep speculation, but I wonder if the threat of something hanging over their heads had something to do with Plant's sale of his Zeppelin copyright.
  3. I love the complexity of the song. The prog rock comment was good. The disco comment I can't relate to. Don't get the 'jaunty' thing, but it is a bit droney in the main theme, in a cool way - Eastern music influence, is my guess.
  4. Wow, you guys and gals are great. I'd never heard of "Burn Like A Candle" - so mucho thanks. I have heard / owned a couple Zep boots ("Destroyer" and "Studio Daze"), but in my defense google sez there are 380+ Zep bootlegs circulating out there. thx
  5. After some serious listening, I think this album represents the band at its finest, and Jimmy's playing is scary good. Is there a thread on this subject for some background about the album ? thx
  6. Two half steps, one whole step. Sorry, I was drinkin'.
  7. Well folks, there is a lot of truth if you're noodling around on guitar for a blues based riff, a lot of it has been done already. It truly is getting harder to come up with something that has never been "done" before. (And you cannot copyright a chord progression - a melody and lyrics, yeah). I come up with my own riffs and jam them - one was basically Smashing Pumpkins "Cherub Rock" - yet as a blues purist snob in those days, I had never heard the Pumpkins tune. A buddy of mine pointed it out to me. Disheartening to a wannabe musician, to say the least. D C G Sweet Home Alabama, Werewolves of London, Main Street (Bob Seger, but add an Em for transition after the G) ... There ya go. p.s. No mention of Taurus and Stairway here ? Here come the flames ;-) What Jimmy "borrowed" he made better. And oh yeah, listen to Let it Grow by Clapton ... toward the end ... same progression as opening 12 bars of Stairway, up two whole steps to Bm. Remember, George Harrison got sued over My Sweet Lord and LOST ...
  8. I DID search the forum, but a quick find didn't help, and I figured well .... somebody could answer this easily. Who made the creative decision to bring Sandy Denny into into that INCREDIBLE work of beautiful art. TIA
  9. Yeah, man, artistic differences ! And nobody really flaming anybody here, pretty incredible considering the topic. Either Steve is a good moderator and/or LZ fans are a very mature lot ;-) Listen to what Gary Moore says right at the beginning of this duet with Albert King (then stick around for some incredible guitar playing).
  10. I think Carouselambra has some similairties (spelling, sorry it's too late in the evening) to Levee and Kashmir, in the sense of how it builds. (Course, other fans are are gonna point out "Ten Years Gone", ALS, etc. do the same and yeah, I agree). So yes, I'm granting myself a bit of artitistic license with my comment, but I think it holds water. Very interesting, multipart, multilayered song. Course, ITTOD is damn near my fav Zep album. I also see "I'm Gonna Crawl" as a closing statement in the sense that "Let it Be" was a closing statement for The Beatles. What I mean is that neither band really knew the career end (version 1, at least) was nigh, and those songs seem hauntingly overarching in career sense. The timing chose it for them, and they just feel appropos to me as summation songs.
  11. I didn't read all the posts, but remember Jimmy was a studio player early on, and he has said he was expected to play perfect - or be shown the door. Maybe he just got a bit tired of perfection - I know I will take a track with a flub or two that has feel over a sterile impeccable track, any day. (Yngwie is a good one to cite, as others have on this forum thread - often he lacks feel. The guy is a damn, damn good guitarist, though). When you improvise on guitar, as Jimmy does live, you take the bad with the good. Look at Hendrix at Woodstock - it's practically a train wreck, but Jimi pulled it off due to sheer will. And Jimmy also slung his LP very low playing live, it looks cool, but it's not easy to play like that. Not to mention prowling the stage.
  12. KZ, you are dead on right. I had had heard that story before but forgot. "Thanks for 'at" - Jonesy, from the Studio Daze bootlog, intro to "All My Love". I also heard how Jethro Tull turned down Woodstock, from Hawaii ... "Did they want to spend a weekend in NY at a pig farmer's field [with a bunch of smelly hippies]"? ;-)
  13. "Grant was a pioneer within the music business. He literally changed the rules of the game and Jimmy Page was indeed very fortunate to have had such visionary and committed management." Peter had the Executive Producer stamp on virtually everything LZ did. Is anyone aware of a case where Peter said, "No, bollocks to that idea ! " ;-)
  14. Justification for "stealing" ... The whole business model has changed, and it's better for the consumer now. Do you know how many times I've purchased DSOTM ... vinyl, cassette, CD .. (never did the 8-track thing) ... ? The publishers and distros didn't have a problem with THAT model, did they ? If I owned a "license" to the music, I should have just been charged for new media. But I wasn't. New bands know that there is often no money in album sales any longer; it's touring and merchandising. I find that sad of course, but yes, times have changed and YouTube is a simply promotional / sampling tool to generate interest. Often, stuff that was out of print manages to come back due to renewed interest via modern technology (I think Nick Drake is an example). So it is both a trade off, and a cold dish of revenge for the consumer, IMHO. p.s. I'm a bedroom musician, and something akin to a s/w developer for a living. That means I create original things.
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