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I was listening to an isolated Bonham drum track on YT. Was moved to tears for whatever reason, then thought to myself isn't his birthday around now? Yes. He'd be 75.The most soulful of drummers, creator of exquisite soundscapes, wild as a tiger, beautiful as a butterfly.
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Very clearly the phrase is "above my head" in all available versions. (Page should have done more lyrics.)
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I just stumbled upon a youtube copy of the extended release of the Death Wish II soundtrack. One of the tunes left out form the original release was a really good one for my tastes: Baby I Miss You So, which reminds me of Rainbow. There's also this mellow instrumental. Though he was probably recycling and revisiting ideas and motifs already worked on, it seems Jimmy did still have a good bit of creative juice left at this point. Reading up on the history of the project, I was astounded to discover that Jimmy produced the material in a very short time around August-September 1981. For a man supposedly down and out, the work is really very good. Just think about it: songwriting, lyrics, instrumentals and production.
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The Criticism of Page as a Sloppy Player?
Sandey replied to weapon2010's topic in Led Zeppelin Newbies
Well yeah, Page was kinda loose live, but he played great acoustic guitar, and sloppy players can't really succeed at that. Page's playing style and approach is what I call expressionist; the effect is more important than how it comes about. It's a lot more precise and calculated than it sounds in my opinion. In concert Page was often drunk and/or drugged and sleep deprived so that's going to lead to some less than perfect playing live. Secondly Page didn't sound like a modern metal guitarist, or even an 80's one. But he wasn't a modern metal guitarist, so why should he be compared to that style? The whole sloppy thing comes from the ideal that "technique" equals speed, even touch, metronomic timing and complicated scale runs. Page was about purposefully moving timing around the beat, of varying the touch, of seeking melodic and rhythmic phrases – all for maximum effect. -
"His timing is off, his bends suck, his tone is ok, his phrasing choices are amateurish at best." In my universe Page knows absolutely the fuck where he is timing wise. If you are too dumb to understand this you don't know what timing is. Otherwise a whole lotta meh form this guy. So the studio version is superior to live? I would like to hear the live version live, not studio. Anyway, since about 1985 Page has been looked down upon as a technically lacking player, so nothing new here.
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This guy is tops for Bonham drum covers, Mr. Mojo Risin, the channel is Kick it Like Bonham. https://www.youtube.com/user/MrMojoRisin1967 He has drum covers of songs from several albums and live versions as well.
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Will Jimmy Page ever perform in public again ?
Sandey replied to The Rover's topic in Pre / Post-Zeppelin Forum
Indeed, due to the january birth I think of Jimmy as almost 1943. So two years older! -
Will Jimmy Page ever perform in public again ?
Sandey replied to The Rover's topic in Pre / Post-Zeppelin Forum
No. Despite his age it might be feasible (physically), but that requires dedication and a continous life as an active musician. Someone like that is John McLaughlin who' s one year older than Jimmy, and is still at it. -
Page solos in LZ you felt didn't "fit" well?
Sandey replied to Canadianzepper's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
As far as I'm concerned the outro to Black Dog is perfect. In OTHAFA the solo is more of a compositional element than a solo, but it is kinda tame and the recorded version deserves better. This might be one of the few important songs in the Zep catalogue where the solo is lacking something vital. The live versions are more frenetic and "evil" than the record, but retain the general outline and mood of the album version. -
Well how can this be, since JPJ is not even credited as a writer on LLM? Yes, Black Dog is John Paul Jones's riff, but Heartbreaker? Where did you get that from? I remember reading somewhere that Living Loving Maid is indeed maybe the only song where Jimmy contributed most of the lyrics, if not all.
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Many musicians have had hit songs that over time they started to get bored with or practically hate. Some perform them despite that, because they feel an obligation to deliver what their audiences want, others stop. Then there's a third category, Robert Plant.
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The law and it's application is horrible at the moment. Here are two more examples that amount to copyrighting basic musical elements. Katy Perry vs. Flame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ytoUuO-qvg Ed Sheeran vs. Marvin Gaye: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kt1DXu7dlo If musicians want to avoid being sued like this, the only option is to not make new original music.
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What show or live song are you listening to now?
Sandey replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
Listening to the new Osaka 1971 soundboards. I'm dizzy from astonishment. -
BEST SOLOING ON OVER THE HILLS AND FAR AWAY
Sandey replied to The Rover's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
My favourite is 2/12/75: it's spirited, clear, dynamic, disciplined and has nice execution of the main ideas Page had for the solo. The blend of coke, booze and sobriety was about right. The 77 versions are too frenetic for my taste, suits TU fine, but not this.