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TheR0ver

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  1. @ Trufan Thank you. If you were to compare a normal CD to a 96/24 would you hear the difference through computer speakers? Well, depending on your musical ear, yes. Would it be better to play the music on a higher end stereo with proper hi-fi speakers? Yes You can obtain the 96/24 files in two ways : 1. With the download card provided in the 'Super Deluxe Box Set" 2. Purchasing the 96/24 files from an HD file online store, such as HDTracks.
  2. @pujols I did the same thing, playing on my home Denon.
  3. @Trufan I will try to explain it as briefly and as un technical as possible. 96/24 stands for the bit rate that the Zeppelin tracks have been re mastered digitally. 24 bits at 96 kHz. We are used to listening to CD's which are only 16 bits at 44.1 kHz. Think of it this way, 96/24 music tracks are larger in comparison to their CD counterparts, and even larger still than their MP3 equivalents. Why is that? Because the music track (or file) contains more information. When CD's were made, they cut out the information, or sounds, they thought theoretically we couldn't hear anyways. They did this so the music could fit on a 650mb CD. But then DVD's came along, which, as you probably know, can hold 4.7 GB of information. So....7 times more data/information. So someone said, lets add the information back in by re mastering another digital file from the "master tapes" ( right from the source) at 96/24. If you listen to "Out on the Tiles", for example, on the re mastered Zep 3,( in 96/24) listen for the guitars, but also listen for the sound of the cymbals. The sound of the cymbals resonate longer after they've ben hit.( to describe it visually, if the sound of impact on a cymbal was like a stone thrown into a pond, the ripples would last longer, and travel farther) That's the best way I can give one example, being a drummer as well. Clearer or muddier? lol
  4. Well, Mr. Page said he wanted to remind people "what a fucking good band Led Zeppelin was" and he has definitely succeeded. I just downloaded the 96/24 tracks from HDTracks and they sound amazing. I encourage everyone who has the box set to use their download card, or purchase them separately, as I did. I have just finished listening to Zeppelin III, and you can very easily see the marked sonic improvement. The music is clear and clean, although I wish it was more than just 2 channel, 5.1 would be ideal, but at the very least 2.1 for better bass. However, it is an experience I recommend to any Zeppelin fan. Listen to the music in 96/24
  5. No JTM you are not deluded, having Led Zeppelin albums on high res ( either 96/24 or 192/48) would be fantastic. It would be preferable if they released them on a disc within the box sets ( like The Doors and Pink Floyd did) . I am also hoping for a 5.1 mix, because this would bring the music to another level of enjoyment. Imagine sitting in a chair, with a high res 5.1 mix of "In The Light" playing around you, the opening drone spinning around your head as the sound travels from speaker to speaker...one can only wish. There has been little detail about the format of the "HD download" , I hope it is an option, or as other members have stated, an option for a future release. I do not agree with some other posts that High Res Audio is strictly a niche market. Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon is the best selling SACD of all time, Led Zeppelin would easily sell a high res 5.1 format.
  6. Yes. Me. Would you like to see Wearing and Tearing? I will need some time to set up, but can do that for you.
  7. I am a little disappointed, I was hoping for a 5.1 /High Res mix of all the albums. The Doors did it with all their studio albums, along with a selected few from Yes and Pink Floyd. They all sound fantastic. Now I did notice a digital download in 96/24, which is high res, so we're halfway there. I am hoping that may be mixed in 5.1 . Just imagine the opening drone of " In The Light" swirling around you in high res 5.1.... Over the last few years I had considered starting a poll or petition on this site to see if Mr. Page would consider mixing these albums in high res 5.1, either on DVD Audio or SACD, or Blu Ray Audio. Would anyone have any interest in contributing to such a poll? Until then I anxiously await any further information on the 96/24 download options for these box sets.
  8. Well it was more than a gimmick, two sticks in each hand obviously produces a louder and different sound from the drum
  9. Hi Angamie Thank you for your comment, I enjoy playing and learning more every day. I can put up a video, just may take some time...lol
  10. Hi Back Beat For that solo at the end of Rock and Roll try practicing your one handed buzz rolls. Bonzo used these a lot obviously. The strength for those comes from the wrists. Another good way too practice is too play his hand movements on one drum, or practice pad even. Then move to the drums on the kit. The bass drum note is the first note of every bar. The solo from TSRTS is essentially much like the studio version, albeit much faster.
  11. Hi Storm Thank you very much for the welcome, and no offense taken, it is my first post, I was ina rush to get it online, and I didn't want to make it too technical. And words are hard to describe...I would rather demonstrate on my drums!!! Is there anything in particular you would like to know? About Kashmir, it's a pretty straight forward drum beat, no real tricks or special techniques that I can see, however as Robert Plant stated once Bonzo's Kashmir drumming had swing, and gave us the "sense of motion". That in itself is a major achievement. He does hit his snare drum in various different ways, utilizing different areas of the drum to produce different sounds. Or he hits it harder on some notes (accents), and creates more distance from the drum before impact . I believe an example of this technique can be found on The Wanton Song . You will notice a noticeable difference in the sound and pitch of the snare between notes. Hmmm what else can I give you? Ok heres one. Kind of hard to explain and maybe a little "ethereal". Mr. Bomham had a technique where he would kep moving his left hand in time even after the note had been hit on the snare. There are many reasons for that: to help keep time, to give the piece more feel, to utilize a single stroke roll with one hand, ( such as in Since I've Been Loving You) . However the main reason, in my humble opinion is to "complete the circle" as I like to call it. In other words, the right hand is moving, the left hand is moving, the left foot is moving, the right foot is moving. It is a "circle" of movement , or motion. Does that make sense?
  12. John Bonhams Drumming Explained Rather a heady title I admit. I don’t think anyone can fully explain him. However I have been playing the drums for roughly 38 years, and I started out wanting to be like him at the age of 5. (And Ringo). So I thought some of you might want some insight from a drummer who has studied a master. Because after all, to become a master one must study a master. This could well be a 100 page essay, but in the interest of brevity I have selected a few songs hopefully everyone has access to, and noted time marks where applicable to illustrate my examples. John Bonham could play with feel, a deep enveloping feel. He was a drummer where “feel” came first, time second. Whereas, in the case of Neil Peart for example, time is first, feel is second. Bonzo also had the amazing quality of being powerful, yet nimble. He also had swing, as is evident in Candy Store Rock, Kashmir, Out On The Tiles, just to name a few. It is easy to see his jazz/swing influences such as Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, and Joe Morello. In fact John Bonham borrowed a lot of of Joe Morello’s triplet ideas. Dazed and Confused Of course the most noticeable God like quality of his drumming was his speed. He could bend time. The good drummers can do this, our brains can move in nanoseconds, calculating what you just played, what you are playing, and what you are going to play all at once. The best example of John’s speed is the end of Dazed and Confused (from The Song Remains The Same). There have been fierce debates as to whether it is has been sped up, but I can assure it has not. The hand is quicker than the eye. I also know because I can play it. Same song now, different example: Note at the 11:59 mark how Jimmy Page lets Jonesy and Bonzo take over in this rhythmic interlude. This is a great example of how fast and tight the rhythm section was, and how important it was to the success of the band. Trampled Under Foot Here is another example of the blistering speed at which he could play. And maintain throughout a 10 minute song. At the 4:36 mark we get a glimpse of John’s concentration, he is definitely “in the zone”, and as you can see, sweating and working very hard. Moby Dick/Over The Top Another great glimpse into the happiness and concentration on John’s face occurs at 4:56, 5:20, and 6:04. One of things I believe that made Zeppelin great was the happiness in their music. The Song Remains The Same The happiest and most swinging Zeppelin song, in my opinion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6TQsU8d6k John has an interesting approach to this song where alternates the lead beat of the bar between the snare drum and the bass drum. Just another example of his jazz feel, and his attention to detail. When The Levee Breaks Some more interesting attention to detail here at the 1:35 mark. At one time I thought this was tape noise, but I’m convinced it’s John making the sound of water bursting through a small hole. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKkJHSO8A0 Of course this is also one of the best known songs for capturing his drum sound. Although there were some interesting recording techniques used, the sound still came from the drummer. He played the first note on his bass drum with an accent (hitting it harder) then silencing his drum head with his bass drum mallet before striking the second note just after. Simple yet genius. Here is a great example of his speed and nimbleness around the kit at 5:16, and his incredible foot speed at 5:26 We can also witness the sheer speed of his wrists with his machine gun drum rolls at 6:48. In closing I want to say happy birthday to the most intelligent, powerful, soulful, nimble, quickest, passionate and and talented rock drummer of all time.
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