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Brigante

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  1. What you probably don't like is all the effects and treatments that Alan Moulder did during the mixing. In 2013, Moulder said he:
    'added samples to beef up the kick and snare with a Native Instruments Battery 3 cell. The great thing about that is that you can put any sample in, with any sample rate, and it works it out. We use a MIDI map, and we can write the velocities in so the samples follow the actual drum recordings sympathetically. The reason we added these samples was for extra clarity and to add low-end weight on the kick drum, and also to add a little bit more body to the snare. I had also set up some drum reverb plug-ins, the Reverb One, the Valhalla Room, and the IK Multimedia Classik CSR Hall reverb, set to 'drums medium hall'. I really like the sound of the IK CSR reverbs, they sound a bit like the old AMS RMX16, with a big, deluxe feel.  I used the Reverb One and Valhalla Room on the kick and snare and also the tom sub. The Valhalla Room is a great plug-in, and it seemed strangely correct to use a plug-in with that name on a Led Zeppelin album! On some songs, the drums reverbs were automated to give the kicks big, explosive reverbs. It was similar with the timpani, which I put through the CSR big reverb, because you want it to sound quite grandiose. I also had additional reverb on the snare, to give it a bit of depth and make it sit in the track. It was more like a colour on an individual sound and to give it its own pocket.'
    A huge amount of work seems to have been done on the concert recordings before they were released. This is a pretty exhaustive account of it all:

    https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/inside-track-mixing-led-zeppelin-reunion
      

  2. Bill Curbishley became Robert's manager between Shaken 'n' Stirred and Now and Zen. It may well have been Bill who persuaded Robert to rein in the experimental pieces, get a younger band and play a few Zeppelin songs. Or Bill may have been one of them - I think someone once said that Phil Johnstone urged him to think about going that way too.  

  3. Agreed, Jonesy's contributions shouldn't ever be underestimated - I know they are, even now, but he added so much. I remember reading that stuff from Diamanda and her praising him for trying new things, not relying on Zeppelin's past glory, etc. Also her response at the London gig when someone yelled out 'The Song Remains The Same!' and she immediately went 'No it doesn't, motherf*cker!' Jonesy almost laughed. Just been reading about him producing the Mission in the late '80s - Hussey said JPJ actually cried when they got talking about Bonzo late one night. Nearly a decade on and it could still affect him like that, even in front of virtual strangers. I didn't expect that - again, because of the image we have of him as a very reserved character. Was also reading about how Aussie psych legends The Church wanted him to produce their Gold Afternoon Fix album in 1990 and they met Jonesy and he wanted to do it but the record label vetoed it, saying 'What's he ever done?' ! Huh?! That's the problem with keeping a low profile and letting others take the glory, I guess. Church guitarist, Marty Willson Piper, ran into Jonesy at an airport years later and told him how they were still sorry that the label had sunk the GAF production. 'Big mistake' was all Jonesy said! He was right, too. 

  4. 10 hours ago, Blaize86 said:

    Arranging instrumentation does not garner a writing credit. 

    Exactly. Can't say it much clearer than that. A good example is the famous lead guitar line on the introduction of All The Young Dudes - it's instantly recognisable and it's an integral part of the recording. Mick Ralphs wrote it, not Bowie, yet the song's credited solely to Bowie, because he wrote the tune, the words and the melody. Ralpher isn't in the credits because his famous guitar line's part of the arrangement. Similarly, Walk On The Wild Side - Mick Ronson wrote that famous double bassline and Bowie wrote the doo-do-doo backing vocals and the sax part, but it's credited solely to Lou Reed because he wrote the tune, the words and the melody, while the bassline, backing vocals and sax are part of the arrangement. It does seem to go against all natural justice, but them's the distinctions. 

  5. Yes, it's pretty clear which one of them wants to do something with the CP material and which one doesn't!
    Agreed re. cds, etc, I'd always prefer a physical format. You pay for it once, it's yours and you can play it as many times as you like. I can see why the industry wants to phase that out in favour of something that costs them less, makes them more money and gives them more control. I hope it doesn't happen. Mind you, I heard the head of some small record label recently complaining that there was only one remaining cd pressing plant in Europe and it'd created a total bottleneck in the system that was making everything increasingly difficult. Dunno if that's true, but if so, the lack of  infrastructure alone could spell the end. Shame.

  6. Yes, Jimmy does seem to have taken that one personally, for him to have gone to all that trouble, yet he denied that he knew the bloke involved. Odd one.

  7. Yeah, they have laws and courts in the US too but they wouldn't be much use if you walked through Compton. Same thing. But, hey, I've been north of Hadrian's Wall. Saw a sign while I was there: 'Scotland 8 Miles'. That's close enough, man. Mind you, it was worse when I went to Chester - that was only 2 miles from Wales! Hell, no. 

  8. Good on her, I don't blame her one bit. I've seen shops with signs saying they don't accept Scottish banknotes - but it's legal tender, so I'm glad people make it difficult for the southern bastds! 😉 There was a petition a few years back for the North of England to secede from the South and become part of Scotland - thousands of us Northerners signed it (including me), but the Scots said no, they didn't want us English pigs in their country! 😆 Can't blame em either.

  9. Being English, I'd never set foot over the border, man. I've got on really well with every Scottish person I've ever met and the loveliest lass I ever knew was from Fife, but for an English swine to actually go into their territory and put yourself at their mercy? It'd be like the Wicker Man, dude.

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