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Crimson Avenger

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  1. A bit of info here, though no direct Jimmy reference: https://raseef22.com/en/culture/2017/06/27/jazz-arab-world-early-attempts-new-fusions/ Must be during the break in the 77 US tour when he flew over there.
  2. It's a brilliant track, beautifully played and arranged. They should have done it live in 77. Page's playing and tone are fantastic. I love the way the opening plunges from major to minor... like jumping into a cold swimming pool. I also like the way Page tricks the audience into thinking it's in one key, when actually it's in a different one.
  3. It's a question of how far you can go, isn't it. I'm fine with Stairway, and think the Taurus suit is nonsense. But then Jimmy didn't write the Stairway riff either, and nor did this guy!
  4. 100% right. Show me a zep-related page of that book and I'll show you the factual errors on it. We could have a whole subforum for that.
  5. Yup... to that I'd add no clue as to what he's listening to. It's hard to square his negative review of 2.14 with what we can hear on tape, and his piece on the Philadelpia show is both factually slipshod and tendentious. On the lid of his grand piano perhaps... yeah, appropriate, lol
  6. He doesn't say "wait what the f***" though, at least not on my version, nor does he explicitly refer to a broken string. We don't actually know it was a broken string, doesn't quite sound it to my ear. Something goes wrong, Page briefly tries to play through it, then gives up. Not sure what that would be. I don't think there was time to properly replace a string anyway, listening to the tape, and Page didn't have a backup doubleneck. EDIT: the other thing I see there is the 'vibes' comments. Davis has them in the wrong place, they are actually before Stairway, near the end of the show.
  7. Oh man. There's not one line in that book I would trust, unless it can be independently verified from a reputable source. You might like to inspect his review a few pages earlier of the 1975 Austin TX show too Or his glowing description of the 30 minute Whole Lotta Love played in Fort Worth... etc etc...
  8. 3.19 is probably my favourite 1975 show. 3.20 is generally excellent as well, though I shudder to think what you are going to make of Heartbreaker there!
  9. No, but I think you started out trying to prove how awful Page was in 1975, and I think by the end you will prove the opposite! With respect, that's the bit that misses the point a bit when discussing Page IMO. Technical perfection isn't really his bag. Non-guitar buffs might find all this tiring, fair enough. But don't stop, nobody has to read anything here if they don't want to. It would be awful if all we did was swap pictures of Robert's hair. You clearly know a lot about playing, and I hope that by the end you'll revise your opinion of 1975. You already have a bit, haven't you?!
  10. OK, here's another one you won't like. What do people think of Jake Bugg? His live singing can be a bit variable, but he's a very solid guitarist (more acoustic than electric, though he does both), and he's kicked out a lot of great songs in quite a short space of time. Here he is on his recent one man show, doing a bit of DADGAD playing.
  11. I dunno. Fair play to the effort from Gibsonfan, there is a place for this kind of thing, even if I do disagree with almost everything he writes! It's interesting but a bit niche. Might sit better in Musicians Corner maybe.
  12. Nobody has ever bitten their guitar strings, not more than once anyway! Even Hendrix (who got the idea off Buddy Guy btw) was only pretending.
  13. Just so I understand your argument, Black Mountain Side on LZ1 is worthless, because Bert Jansch had already done it, yeah? If you aren't saying that, what's the difference? I never said they were the future of rock. I'm not sure there is such a thing. I just said they were a good band and can play, having seen them live. I suspect this may get to the nub of the criticism!
  14. He misses his cue in at the end, but for me, that sums up why I love Page and Zep generally in 75. They catch it perfectly and turn it into something else. Nothing embarrassing about that at all.
  15. Having watched that, I'd say they either really really know their stuff, or they are the most brazen con act in rock since The Darkness or maybe even the Sex Pistols. (the former obviously, for the avoidance of doubt!)
  16. I've thought a bit about this, and my best response to all these criticisms is that I simply don't care about them. All bands and musicians have always copied from each other and swap musical styles. Sure Jake throws in a lot of Page references, but they are never the obvious ones. I'm not sure I wholly hear the STH reference given above, but either way, as SuperDave says, Kingdom Come this is not. He's done his guitar homework, and I can't bring myself to see that as a musical crime. It makes me smile when I spot a Zep reference; it means he's a fan too. As a band they have an understanding of the dynamics and interplay that makes a good live act. I'd rather concentrate on that their belt buckles or funny faces. Is it artistically invalid for one musician to reference another in their work? Surely not. When we hear Jimmy play a great version of White Summer/BMS, do we admire his superb playing skills, or do we frown and point out that he lifted more or less the entire thing off Bert Jansch? Do we love the brilliant acoustic/electric interplay of the guitars on BIGLY, or do we sourly point out that the chord sequence is much the same as George Harrison's While My Guitar Gently Weeps? I'm in the former camp re Jimmy, and feel the same way with GVF. Disagree by all means, but I think you are missing out.
  17. Which is what all the critics were saying in 1968/69 of course. They look funny, the singer is weird, they are ripping off other people's music, not paying their dues etc etc. There was truth in all that, but what saved Zep was their sheer ability. It's early days, but GVF can play. Sure, there's some iffy older stuff on youtube from when they were kids, but they've come a long way in the past year. Just check the jam in the second half of Leaver/Lover from Coachella posted above. I'd defy anyone to say that has no musical worth. Sure, they reference Zep a lot, but for a young talented rock band, is that really such a bad thing? Though I laughed when saw your Rover post. I'd spotted that similarity too. Deliberate? dunno, does it matter? no, it's a great song, most of which, while definitely 70s in vibe, isn't particularly Zeppish.
  18. 2.16 is a very good show too, after maybe a sluggish start. It often seems to get overlooked for some reason.
  19. Thanks for posting those vids, Pagemeister and Superdave. Nice to see some good pro shot stuff, and the playing/singing is great.
  20. Cheers! Hopefully we do get more 1977 and 1975, but it will be a while now anyway if Japan 71 does get out in its entirety. I wouldn't be surprised either way re Japan. 1977 in particular seems patchy in terms of what's been put out. I love 1975 and even I'm a bit bored with it now; only something from January would be interesting at this point. No sign of that... maybe there was a ShowCo employee who only started working there in February! I think carelessness at some point along the line is probably the right reason re the o2 and Southampton. I can't see why Jimmy would connive in their escape, so it's hard to see how those things got out without an abuse of trust somewhere along the line. I suppose it's also possible that Jimmy found out where the leak came from and dealt with it quietly to avoid a public fuss. It's interesting that LA just doesn't leak, so I'd say the odds are against it. There are no circulating Zep boards from the Forum from any year, apart from the small fragment from 1972 and the 1973 ones we know were stolen. Which is odd considering the number of shows they played there. Same for Chicago actually. Yet Landover leaks like a sieve. Maybe the band were more protective of tapes from certain venues. How do you know this?
  21. It's clear there's been no single source for all this over the years. You have to wonder if a few things haven't leaked out semi-officially at least. Southampton 73, and then there's the O2 rehearsal from 2007... how the hell did that get out? You'd have to assume that anyone working on the release of that show was under a cast iron NDA. Also I'm suspicious about the single tracks from Japan 71 we're getting drip fed. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they traced back to the band in some way. But we'll likely never know. 1975/77, no way is that Jimmy. He'd never release a lot of that, especially the 1977 ones. I have an unproveable hunch that we may have seen the last of those anyway. I think we've been here before! That laywer was just fishing. If there'd been any real evidence at that point he'd have pushed it a lot harder if he really thought he'd just got Jimmy to perjure himself under oath. It's long been a matter of record that Jimmy gets boots from Japan, but that's not the same as saying he's sending them there. Quite the opposite really if you think about it; if he was the source of all the boots, he'd hardly be going shopping for them.
  22. Cheers! I guess you are right there. There were a couple they could have done, like Rolling In the Deep, the Adele cover. There were two or three they haven't recorded yet, like Mountain of the Sun or Liver Lover Taker Believer. There was an acoutic thing in there too, which I don't think I'd heard before. He did fine. All the high notes were there, with sustain, and often held longer than on the record. He has his own voice, and it will develop if he looks after it. Check this out, it's from the gig I saw in Manchester. The vocal is a bit low in the mix, but you can hear him well enough. Check out 3.50 or so onwards. I didn't record that btw, thanks to whoever did, I was standing about 10 feet to the right! ( He should probably lose the pyjama stage outfits though) I like lots of words!
  23. Anything by Seth Lakeman, with his proper band. Live at the Minack perhaps. He's currently playing with Plant, although not the rest of his band, sadly. They are acoustic but sound like an express train when in full flight. That slightly faceicious observation aside, I'm not sure what a Led Zeppelin album sounds like. No two zep albums sounded the same, which was kinda the point. If you try to copy it, you fail by definition.
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