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ArmsofAtlas1977

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  1. Hello everyone It's been four years since The Beatles Hollywood Bowl re-release came out where they "de-mixed" the tracks to improve the sound quality. Obviously, with all the Zeppelin bootlegs out there, the potential is huge to do this with Zeppelin too. So has there been any word of Jimmy Page commenting on this, or hinting at it? Hollywood Bowl was recorded on three tracks, most soundboards are just two. I'm also wondering if we're going to see any AI upscaling. It would be a fairly straight-forward process at this point to take soundboards and use them as a guide to generate sim
  2. Okay, keeping in mind that we're limiting it to 73, 75, and 77, I'll think of one from each tour. First out the gate is Providence on July 21. This one is such an easy pick for me, both because it's one of the bands best nights ever and definitely Robert's best of the year. It's a real shame that they didn't start testing the tapes for Song Remains the Same until the following show in Baltimore 75 is a bit of a tough one, because with Seattle coming out now, it's hard to think of what might top it, especially for shows we don't have on soundboard already. So I'll go with the opene
  3. Instrumentalists can keep getting better and better as they age. Unfortunately for singers, the instrument ages with them (and not in a good way.) Worse than that, Led Zeppelin were reckless, and Robert did not take care of his voice at all. No warming up beforehand, smoking and drinking during shows and an unfortunate tendency towards pushing his limits for the sake of showboating. On top of that, the tours were ridiculously relentless. Their European Tour in the spring of 1970 was 15 shows in 18 days, and by that point the shows were two hours or more. He also famously continued to
  4. I would much rather have heard 1980 go on than 1977. The 77 tour seemed to be winding down on its own even before tragedy struck, whereas by the end of the 1980 European Tour they were still easing back into the spirit of touring. Beyond that, I just don't see what they might have done to finish 77 that would have been that interesting. Yeah, maybe a professional recording, but my guess is that the result would have been as middling as TSRtS. The peak of 77 was way back in Cleveland, with a second wind in LA. I really doubt they were going to top either of those had the tour continued
  5. The other day I was thinking about Led Zeppelin and had an odd idea. In 1976, Led Zeppelin was taking a break from touring. At the same, their biggest fans were finally getting their own big break. Who were these fans? A band named Heart. Bootlegs of this group show that when they were given an hour on the radio, they would fit 3 Led Zeppelin songs into their set. That same year, Heart was trying to part ways with their old label and find a new one. We also know they had sent a demo to Swan Song (never listened to until they were closing their doors and cleaning out the warehouse.)
  6. What would excite me most from them would be Knebworth. I think it's a much stronger performance than Earls Court and has a lot less songs in common with HTWWW. Other than that, we're still getting a rather steady flow of bootlegs. Maybe maybe maybe someone closer to the band is holding onto higher-quality tapes of a few soundboards, but I doubt it.
  7. January 10 is my favorite show of 1969. This one is a really great one though, and I agree with the comment earlier that it is probably the best one to get new people into the bootlegs. Fantastic audio quality and a tight set
  8. 1977 isn't a great year for Zeppelin in general, but it has some really great shows. In that way, Landover is a sample of the tour itself: not great shows overall, but with the occasional really great performance (5/28 Kashmir and 5/30 Achille's come to mind right away.) Unfortunately, the brittle soundboards lack the warm quality of the Miller's boots from the Forum, so there's little reason to listen to them at all. If you want an outstanding, consistent performance from this tour, I recommend April 28. The only show from 77 where the performance is superior enough to the Forum shows
  9. Sound is muddy and muffled, but this version from 2 April 1973 in Paris is the best I've ever heard.
  10. It's unreleased and has never been bootlegged but it definitely exists. It's been talked about by various members and it's in their archive.
  11. I've listened a lot of 77 and this is what the setlist should have been: Sick Again Nobody's Fault But Mine In My Time of Dying Since I've Been Loving You No Quarter Ten Years Gone White Summer/Black Mountain Side Kashmir Achille's Last Stand Listen to the shows like that and there's your 90 minutes!
  12. I think this is highly accurate. As time went on, it seems to me that Page became more and more interesting creatively with his improvisations, but he also stopped playing with fluency. It was a weird problem, because there were moments when this was completely untrue (the 24th of Copenhagen 1979 was perhaps the most fluid performance of his life). Perhaps, as his library of improvisational ideas expanded, it led to more and more hesitation during actual performances?
  13. For me, it would be neat to have a live release of some of their later material because, on CD, we've got nothing past Houses of the Holy. For that purpose, I think a release of Knebworth would be a lot more exciting.
  14. I've read that Plant was very eager to perform the song but Jone's wasn't able to get the sound he wanted live. I've never looked further into that story, but I assume it is referring to the 1975 tour since that was the first one they did post-Physical Graffiti. Anyway, live performance technology developed a lot during the late 70s and I'm sure Jones could have got the sound he was looking for by 1980. Had I been on the management end of things, I would have pushed for In The Light to be their new "epic" piece after they had kicked out No Quarter and Dazed and Confused. It's pretty ea
  15. I think that the "20 minute" All My Love is an urban legend that might have grown of some weird combination of the 20 minute Helter Skelter (that actually exists) and the slightly extended version (which also actually exists.) It is a shame the extended version wasn't released, but I think what would have been way better is an official release of Zurich concert from the 1980 tour. It has three ITTOD songs and the FM source is even better than the Paris 69 he did release. One of the best Achille's Last Stands as well! Anyway, I feel All My Love is generally underrated. It's some of the
  16. Interesting discussion! In my opinion, the "peak" ended with the recording of Physical Graffiti. Although Plant's voice was deteriorating from late 1970 onward, the other members' live presence just kept getting stronger and stronger until they took there first major break following the NA 1973 tour. John Paul Jones nearly left the group after that, but fortunately they stayed together and finished recording Physical Graffiti in early 1974. There was a substantial change in the group's output after that. Yes, although there would be occasional excellence all the way to the end, it was
  17. This is a great point. I've been working on a "best of live" compilation and almost all of it is from non-official sources. Knebworth and LA 72 each get a few songs, but almost everything else is from audience recordings. Being a Zeppelin fan is a journey. You start with hearing them on the radio, then move onto the albums. After that, some fans check out an official live source like the DVD, How the West Was Won, The Song Remains the Same, or BBC Sessions. My guess is that's the stage OP is at right now. In the end, of everyone who has even listened to a Zeppelin album from start t
  18. Someone hasn't heard Copenhagen 79. I can understand where people are coming from when they say that the band lost some essential creative element later on in touring, but if you're making that argument you must admit the "breaking point" was the end of the 73 tour, certainly no later than that.
  19. Achille's Last Stand at Tempe, no contest. Absolutely fascinating display of failure
  20. It's a lot closer than people are making it out to be, and I also believe that Knebworth is stronger. Yes, the band was more consistent at Earls Court, but I don't think any of the shows were exceptional. Worse, I don't think any specific performances were exceptional (closest would probably be Stairway to Heaven on 25th or Kashmir on the 24th.) These shows were by-the-numbers, and were outshone even by other shows in 75. Vancouver, Seattle and New York all come to mind as runs that were better than Earls Court that year. Although there were some poor performances at Knebworth on
  21. I think the WSBMS intro worked really well when Jimmy was "feeling it" There were plenty of nights where he'd try to make it happen and it dragged on and on instead. This performance from Copenhagen is a great example of when it went right. Anyway, after a lot of thought I ended up going with 19 June 1972 in Seattle as my favorite acoustic set. It's the only time they ever played Black Country Woman and That's the Way on the same night, and it also has a rendition of Tangerine. Sadly the recording is not the best, lots of nearby crowd chatter, but the performance shines through.
  22. 1 September 1970 in Seattle - The night before in Milwaukee is absurdly powerful, the night after in Oakland is almost perfect. They loved Seattle and were peaking at this time, it might be the most incredible show from their most incredible tour. 31 May 1977 in Greensboro - The energy kept building all through the Landover run, and this was the night after. It was also Bonham's birthday. Assuming they didn't celebrate too much before the show, it may be the best of the 77 tour.
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