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Autumn Moon

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  1. Just stumbled across this letter for publication in the May edition of MOJO. I have no camera at hand, so I type this letter.

    ***For Years I have been reading about the "Scandinavian Tour" of Led Zeppelin booked as The New Yardbirds to fulfil contractual obligations. Jimmy Page also refers to it in Shape Of Things To Come (Mojo 289). However, I saw The New Yardbirds in a club called Piccadilly (previously Pferdestall) in Hagen, Germany, so the tour definitely stretched a bit further. I did not like what I heard, as I was a thorough Yardbirds fan & I was there to groove to I`m A Man, Shapes Of Things, Over Under Sideways Down etc., but I got heavy blues rock instead. My then-girlfriend, now wife, bought Led Zep`s first album soon afterwards- we still have it. I guess there were further german appearances, as a one-off in the provinces does not seem reasonable or economical to me, however Germany is on the place to cross if you are travelling north. Does anybody remember any more german dates? Hans-Jürgen Klitsch, Schortens***


    It`s a pity that he has given us no specific date, but who is able to remember specific details of a small club concert after 50 years, anyway. To my ears his story sounds authentic, and he seems to have chosen the right wife......

  2. On 5/2/2018 at 4:11 AM, Mithril46 said:

    Are there still 2 guitars in places, and literally notes replaced in some solos ?? I have the boots for all this stuff, and while the

    film "TSRTS" concert is also a cut and paste job, nowhere are there 2 guitars. I understand that the new release is worth it,

    but Jimmy having two guitars in that 72' Ocean at times, cool for the general listener, not cool for a musician like me who tries

    to get the full Monty with one guitar. Still, probably going to give in, get it. Just realize Zep never actually sounded like that.

    Sorry, what are you talking about??? Just to be sure I have listened to the HTWWW remaster, Burn Like A Candle & the Moonchild release. I didn´t hear any two guitar parts, neither any replaced or altered notes in the solo or any other part. I can hear generally no difference between the official and the bootlegs. Of course the multi tracks of HTWWW display a wider tonal range of the guitar, such as the coda-fun- part of The Ocean, you simply won`t hear some nuances or dominant tones of some chords on the bootleg versions, simply because they are bootlegs.

  3. 3 hours ago, Bonzo_fan said:

    Regarding all of the LOL's at gibsonfan's response to my matrix question, I was only asking because he said "this is a straight soundboard source," not because I thought it makes Page's playing demonstrably better :lol:

    Alltough I am not the biggest fan of 75, I really dig gibsonfan`s enjoyable & detailed analysis. Four Blocks In The Snow is one of the few 75 concerts I appreciate. Neither the SB nor the matrix will do me any good. Haha, I prefer the TCOLZ audience version, because it makes not only Page`s sound but the whole thing "demonstrably better".

  4. 19 hours ago, John M said:

    KEZAR.  I wish we had the whole show in the quality of the last few tracks.    I love Bonham's little twist on the intro "a - one, a two, a-three, a- four!"

    What a show, I absolutely love it. Funny, I like the very good audience source, the flat SB leaves me cold.

    Anyway, certainly one of the best concerts of their ninth US tour.

  5. 1 hour ago, Sticks of Fire said:

    If they have released essentially 4 songs already.   I would have to believe they will release the full show (minis some tape flips or whatever) by the years end.    

    Sorry that I was unclear on this point. Yes, I also expect a release around September. But they haven`t released a song of the last third of the show so far, nothing from Moby Dick to Rock And Roll yet. So it is not proven that EV is able to release the entire 185 minutes of the show. I will keep my fingers crossed......

    Let`s not forget about 928, EV should release both Osaka shows simultaneous, there is only one 50th anniversary.

  6. 19 hours ago, ZepHead315 said:


    I'd agree. I love all of the shows, but if I had to rank them 9/27 would be at the bottom. It's still a great show, but there are no real surprises or curve balls. The Osaka shows definitely have a more loose feel with the band seeming to be very relaxed and in a great mood. But the Tokyo shows are just tight and ferocious. I also agree that 9/24 is probably Plant's best show of the tour. He's on fire there. Ultimately, 9/23 is my favorite, but I'm biased due to the superb sound quality.

    I am still waiting for my copy of Graf Zeppelin`s 924, so I have listened to Light & Shade (until the end of the acoustic set) in the meantime. Man, Heartbreaker & Dazed & Confused are absolutely great. And if memory serves me well, Whole Lotta Love is a killer version too.

    19 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:

    Phenomenal sample of Friends.  The new soundboard source sounds amazing.    

    If they release the entire show with this quality it could very well be the greatest bootleg ever to surface on Zeppelin. 

    You nailed it. But do they have the entire show? If EV would only release a song of the 3/3, that would calm down my nerves........

  7. 11 hours ago, Adam Ryan watson said:

    I think the September 24th show is the best played and sung of the tour. But the osaka shows have an energy and that tight but loose vibe that he  hear in the 69 and 70 live shows. I look both equally but for different reasons.


    Right, I love all of them, maybe 923 & 929 a tad more just because of their superior sound. 927 is a bit short & not too adventurous, similar to the Kyoto gig one year later.

    10 hours ago, Adam Ryan watson said:

    I wonder if their source is asking for a much larger price for an early show like osaka that is much larger then the price evds pays for a 75 or 77 show. It seems likely a show from 69 to 72 would command a higher price. I guess we will never really know.

    Well, isn`t it obvious? The tape owners know when they are about to play their trump card.

  8. 20 hours ago, duckman said:

    According to Plant, ' to take a  bath with Geisha ' but most likely he just suffered from stomach cramps and diarrhea "my limbs are like jelly". In other words ...the men's room

    Whenever I get to the acoustic set of 929,  I have great fun to imagine what it was like for poor Bonzo. Think, if you are in trouble with diarrhea, you certainly choose the NEAREST toilet. And that nearest toilet was certainly within hearing range as Mr. Plant led the audience to the famous "Mr. Bonham chant".

  9. 9 hours ago, duckman said:

    My copy arrived yesterday and it's fair to say the mono source sounds pretty much identical to what I remember from the first Light and Shade on TDOLZ. Last evening I worked my way through  a couple of tracks from both the mono and stereo source and now I'm listening to the stereo source. with a good set of headphones (Beyerdynamic DT 770)

    the new stereo source is really great . A pity Black Dog and Since are missing on the new stereo source. There's a tad of hiss and Jonesy is slightly boomy. But on the whole it's  dynamic, powerful and clear. Definitive indeed...:hurrah:

    Thanks for your review, duckman. Can`t wait to hear this new stereo source, still 7 days til it arrives.......

    About the Graf Zeppelin mono source: Is Disc 2 & 3 that bad like the Light & Shade version?  I have the 1997 TDOLZ remastered version, but I don`t remember it being mono. I think I remember the bad bass/tomtom distortion mostly on the right channel- I`ll check that tomorrow.

  10. On 24.3.2018 at 4:41 AM, ZepHead315 said:

    I agree with duckman. This new source is much better than the TDOLZ release. Still a bit heavy on the bass, and slightly distant, but nowhere near as harsh and much clearer and crisp. I've actually been in the minority on this show in terms of sound, as I've always preferred the sound of Source 4 (used on Disc 1 of the TDOLZ release and Disc 4 of the Scorpio release) over Source 5 (used for the remainder of TDOLZ). The latter is just too overloaded on the bass for my enjoyment. Source 4 may be bright and "squashed", but at least it has a better balance. I can only hope this new source is complete with no major cuts.


    On 24.3.2018 at 2:00 AM, Tainted cheese said:

    Thanks, promising, is it stereo or mono? Could you tell me more about where to hear this sampler, as I searched that phrase you gave me in this forum with no luck.


    Aren`t these TWO new sources? It contains 3 CDs in mono & 3 CDs in stereo, any thougts?

    Damn, still I have to wait another ten days for my copy.

  11. On 18.3.2018 at 3:36 AM, bcarter690 said:

    You're welcome. I can't place the one with the beard either. It's 1971, but I don't know which date yet.

    I think it is Copenhagen, May 3rd 1971

  12. 6 hours ago, Blimp_Life said:

    Here it is.




    "Thank You"





    Domo arigato, I appreciate that very much. I have always thought that 924 is a great concert & it would deserve better sounding source tapes.

    Much better than past TDOLZ & EV releases! I have ordered my copy already, but as it seems right now, it may take another 14 days til it arrives.

  13. superstars%20definitive%20924.jpg

        Graf Zeppelin has just released another title, Super Stars: Definitive 924 Tapes. This six disc sourced from the second Tokyo show that took place on September 24th, 1971 contains one mono and stereo audience source. It is not known yet if any of tapes included with this new release are either upgrade or unheard material.

    I think I shall get this one, as Graf  Zeppelin titles never let me down in the past.

  14. 13 hours ago, paplbojo said:
    13 hours ago, Kevinrm15 said:

    We've also got numbers from Southampton University and some small clubs."  Jimmy Page, 1977.

    Please god yes. Euro '73 here we come. 

    The very popular tour of Europe 73 on the continent was in contrast to the earlier UK tour by no means a small clubs affair. With a few exceptions, like K.B.Hallen Copenhagen or Hamburg Musikhalle, they played in rather huge venues with capacity of 10000 to 15000 fans.

  15. 17 hours ago, drowan said:

    Another interesting thing about this particular guitar is that it’s still unknown what year model the guitar is. Due to sanding of the neck, and the fact that none of the pickups are original, the serial number on the guitar is no longer present. But most people agree that this Les Paul is probably a late 1959, or early 1960.

    Sorry, I don`t see your conclusion. So the back of the neck was sanded down and shaved, but one has to be slightly deranged for sanding or shaving the back of the headstock, as this would be completely useless. And the serial number of a Les Paul is, as far as I know, on the back of the headstock.

  16. 5 hours ago, porgie66 said:

    Just checked it out. It sounds like a work in progress if it's going to be an official release. Levels aren't quite there, especially the cymbals, which are overloaded on the old " soundboard" are too low. The guitar sounds a bit dry, not much ambience.  There are similarities to the quality of sound of BBC '71 though. I always loved the guitar solo on this night , with the cry-baby at the end. Plant's voice isn't bad but it's not great on this night. He's straining and I wonder if this wouldn't make official muster because of that. 

    Got my copy yesterday, have listened to it about 10 times,  compared to Winston Remaster & Live in Japan 1971 by Wendy. Here is my impression:

    First, this SB is in mono, so I think this proofs that the well known  "so called SB"-stereo source is an unsuccessful multitrack-split. Overall, this SB is very well balanced. The bass is far more accented, it is a real joy listening to JPJ & Bonzo groovin`while Jimmy trips through maybe the greatest IMS solo ever. I have to agree with you about the guitar, the multitrack-split version is a little bit louder in the mix & sounds a tad more biting than the SB, but that is no big issue IMO. Thankfully, this SB is so well balanced that you can crank it up to 11, it benfits from high volume. But I really can`t agree with you about Robert`s voice. His second wail is a little bit shaken, but afterwards he is doing fine, especially in the great acoustic set.

    Conclusion: I love it!

    Hopefully EV got the complete SBDs of 928 & 929 & release them in September. Or Jimmy will give us the official multitracks.

  17. On 12.12.2012 at 4:43 PM, lololabrute said:


    Try source 7: Flying Rock Carnival-No Label or Rock Carnival- EV

    On 12.12.2012 at 4:43 PM, lololabrute said:

    Oct. 10th 1972 - Kyoto: not sure... anyone?

    On 12.12.2012 at 4:43 PM, lololabrute said:

    Sept. 29th 1971 - Osaka: FATALLY WANDERER 929 (original Wendy release, not the remastered)

    For Kyoto 72: The Old Capital - Wendy, best I`ve heard so far

    For 929: Wendy's "Live In Japan 1971"  6 CD set, better than Fatally Wanderer, at least to my ears. You better wait for the SBDs of 928 & 929 by EV, once they are released, you can forget everything else.

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