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Adam Ryan watson

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  1. June 27 is a bit rough and they are pretty tired . The 26th is. An above average show for 77 but it's just a good solid show with nothing that really stands out. Bonham is a little lack luster on the 25th but jimmy and Robert are on . I do think the 22nd is a better show then the 25th . I don't know if it's better then the 23rd or 21st but it's at least on par with them . You can find performance from the 22nd that top ones from the 22st and 23rd . It has the best version of over the hills and far way of 77 as well as the best imtod of 77. In terms of pages guitar playing and plants vocals it's hard to find better performances from 77. No quarter has a killer solo from page . The 22nd has one of the most powerful Kashmirs of 77 . Since I've been loving you is stellar as well. It's really hard to say how good the show really is because of the recording quality . Each of the first 3 shows In l.a have moments that top the other two . It definitely beats shows like the landover run Houston and fort worth . Houston is not near as bad as some make it out to be but I still find it to be pretty dull.
  2. I agree with almost all of it except I rank the 2nd Oakland show in the bottom tier . I also think the first 2 Chicago shows. Are pretty solid considering the lack of rehearsal with the 2nd show being a very good one plants voice is in very strong shape in Chicago . I find the 7th to be a very strong and compact show from start to finish and a big improvement over the shows that came before it since I've been loving you from the 6th and 7th are great versions . San Diego was a pretty wired show . Page and plant were in great form but Bonham was a train wreck . If Bonham had been on it would have been one off the best shows of 77. The aborted 3rd Chicago show was another bad one . Jimmy was on bad shape and had to walk off after the first few numbers and cancel the rest of the show . I would count Seattle as one of the worst of 77 as well. Plants voice is awful and jimmy is a mess. I think even the first Chicago show is much better then srattle
  3. Vocally I think the may 17th earls court version is one of plants best from that era . Jimmy plays a great solo as well .. badge holders is pretty decent as well along with june 22 77.
  4. Really like the one from the 2nd knebworth show . Plant gives what I think is his best vocal for that song post 73. I really enjoy the 2nd knebworth show despite it being quite rough instrumentally . Plant gives a very strong vocal performance from start to finish I think it's one of his best post 72
  5. I really like the October 3rd 1972 version on japan . Instrumentally there are better versions but this one is my favorite simply because plant hits all the high notes of the studio version . I also really like. The one from Seattle 73 when jones as had to switch to piano because the melotron broke down st Louis 75 is another one I really like .
  6. I have never been completely taken with San Diego 73 bonzos birthday or kezar . Kezar is a killer show in the second half but the first half while great is no more special than any other 73 shows . Kezar and bonzos birthday suffer slightly from pages injured hand. Seems pretty reserved and cautious especially for the may 31st show his playing does get more expressive at kezar . I do however find the juse 3rd l.a show to be outstanding . Page plays so much better . He is not as sloppy and really seems to be going for it in his solos and plant sounds very strong as well. Not a big fan of fort worth 75 either although the sound is nice. March 4 in Dallas starts out very strong but they really seem to hit the wall early and the 2nd half is pretty lackluster with page very sloppy. I really like the 2nd 75 Dallas show alot . It's no west coast for sure but it's a very noticeable improvement over the previous 2 shows . It starts out a little sluggish on the first couple of songs but it really turns into a very solid show . It starts to pick up during over the hills and builds . Dazed and no quarter are great 75 versions . Imtod and Kashmir are nice as well and plant seems to be in much better voice than the previous 2 nights though the west coast shows are far better as well as the mid February new York area shows. The 2 Nassau shows are by far my favorites from the first leg.
  7. That first San Diego in 75 was a great show. They really raised the bar on the west coast . The 2nd San Diego show is the oddball of the bunch it's just not on the level of the other west coast shows I also find the first long beach show to be much better than It gets credit for . Page and plant both sound excellent for the first sd show.
  8. I think the 72 Nassau shows are better than the 72 California shows. The hwww shows are killer though . But I like the Nassau and both Seattle shows better .
  9. I mostly agree with you're assessment . Kezar is a great show but I have always found page quite sticky at this show and I have never found that plant sang near as well as many claim. But I do find the second half of the show is top shelf especially heartbreaker plant sounds really strong on that one. I also could never really see the big attraction with bonzos birthday either. Again it's a great show bit I don't find it legendary . Plant does not sound so hot and jimmy injured finger is hampering his playing . His solos are less expressive and adventurous . I have always preferred the southern u.s shows from May 73 like mobile Houston and fort worth but I will say I think the june 3rd forum show is amazing and deserves it's reputation and plants voice and pages playing are far better then they were at kezar and bonzos birthday .
  10. This show has a killer rock and roll in which plant hits some crazy high notes . Easily his best performance of that song post June 72. He sounds amazing on stairway too hitting all the high notes in the heavy section in a way he had not since 72. Page is killer at this show as well. I wonder what became of the board tape for this show. I like this show mich than frankfurt and Zurich.
  11. The sound on the footage would have just been from a patch to the sound board . So the soundtrack would have been the same mix being sent to the p a. So the film would have foh audio. The acoustics of the siverdome and the size of the place would have made it hard to get an foh mix that sounded good in the venue. So a recording of that mix may have sounded really odd and poorly balanced the recording could have ended up really overloaded sounding.
  12. No extra overhead mics on the drums. No extra bass drum Mic and no extra mics on page and Jones speaker cabinets means that a multitrack is very unlikely. It could be done without extra mics. Why would they not use extra mics in stoke but use them in Southampton . An extra set of studio grade recording mics was standard practice for zeppelin when pro recording concerts. It was a superior method given the equipment of the time. Page being a led wallet he would not want to take any chances that the recording would get messed and the money be lost . So recording without the extra mics was probably not acceptable by pages standards.
  13. I also think montruex 70 is more than a mere soundboard . I hear stereo separation on there that I have not heard on other zep board tapes. I could have been mixed in the same manner as the dead betty boards separate feeds mixed down to a proper balanced with true stereo separation. It's sounds far better then boards like Orlando hampton and Toronto .
  14. What I would not give for soundboards from the back to the club's tour. Bbc and the audience tapes for Belfast and dublin are all we have as great as the BBC show is it's no where near as intense and powerful as the 2 Irish shows. A zeppelin live at the marquee would be unreal. Plants voice in Belfast and dublin is unbelievable. This tour would be the last one where plant would still have 100 percent full use of his upper range. By late August it would start to slip. What's really impressive about the Irish shows is that they had not played live in 5 and half months and they picked up right where they left off 8n September 1970.
  15. I really like Milan 1971. It's another one of plants best vocals for that song. I love how the tape distorts when plants let's that amazing scream rip after the solo . September 24 71 in Tokyo is another great one. Belfast in March 71 is another blistering version and a tip shelf plant vocal. Manchester 71 is excellent as well with plant owning it vocally. Melbourne and Brisbane on the 72 Aussie tour are 2 great overlooked versions . Auckland new Zealand is one of my all time favorites as well . Vocally all three of those are extremely powerfull and are among the best plant delivered on stage for that song. They are much more powerful than many of the 1971 versions and the Aussie tour is the last time plant was able to sing that song with that much range power and intensity. Pages playing and tone has a sound and vibe thst reminds me alot of the more raw versions from August and September of 1970. Alot of poeple mention the june 19 72 version which is amazing but i think the june 18th version is just as great and is my favorite from the 72 u s tour. It's another one that puts me in mind of the latter 1970 versions.
  16. I love that version. It's easily one of the best versions they did post 75. All 4 1979 versions are killer. Vocally I have always felt the 2nd knebworth version was one of plants best for that song lost 72. The Copenhagen versions were very unique and never really played that way again pages guitar playing on those versions was so much cleaner the. Any of the other post 73 versions. Easily pages best sounding guitar tone post 73.
  17. This is probably the closest plant came to matching his vocals on the studio version on terms of power and intensity . Vocally the studio version has never been topped. Milwaukee is insanely powerful vocally and the band plays great. I have always preferred the guktar tone on the 1970 versions to any other year. It's so much more full and cleaner then any other year. It had a much more traditional blues tone to it in 1970 . There is a warmth and richness to the tone in 1970 which gave the song a darker sound and vibe. I really love Vancouver and Memphis for the pre album versions. To me the pre album versions are a completely different song. The mood is darker and more somber. I find them to have a soul influence that is not as evident on the post album versions not better or worse just different. I do prefer plants vocals on the pre album versions though. It's deeper and richer. More bluesy and soulful. 1970 from start to finish is such an amazing year for plants voice. He sounds amazing almost every show
  18. It baffles me why so many people cite Southampton as their favorite 1973 show or as one of the best 1973 shows. Page is sticky and sloppy . Plants voice is a mess and the band sound tired and uninspired. Shows like stoke and Oxford are killer . Even though the sound quality is bad I think Dundee and Aberdeen slay Southampton performance wise.. the band are on fire in Scotland and both page and plant are on much better form than Southampton.
  19. I always felt they sounded a bit under rehearsed in that tour and the new numbers from houses sounded a bit stiff. I actually prefer the December 72 shows from an instrumental stand point and especially the 73 Europe and u.s tours.
  20. He seemed to be going for a different approach in his playing in 73 and the sound of that kit seemed to suit the way he was playing and I agree that the band had a very cohesive sound in 73 that that fit together very well. Everyone's respective sound that year really complimented each other. Their sound was really unique in 73. May 73 is one of my favorite periods and I loved plants raspy vocals. Raspy but not dry like it was in 75. Baltimore and providence have amazing and powerful vocals. Plants voice came a long way on the U.S. tour from what it was in the u.k and Europe.
  21. June 3rd would be the one I would like the most and in sure many others feel that way as well. There is a partial board tape for each of the 5 shows leading up to it even though some are only 25 minutes. With the final one third of shows like Houston Denver and kezar you would think the first two thirds would be out there somewhere. I would love the first two thirds of Houston and the final portion of Fort worth as well as they are two of my favorite 73 shows and of course the rest of kezar and bonzos birthday. I would kill for July shows like providence and Baltimore as well but I have a soft spot for the may 73 shows especially the southern u.s leg . Big fan of the Texas run even Dallas. It starts out rough but the middle portion is awesome especially sibly no quarter and dazed so I would love to hear the heartbreaker whole lotta love portion.
  22. Could be just wishful thinking but I believe there has to be at least a couple of partial 73 boards being hoarded like maybe June 3 in l.a
  23. Yeah I always preferred Bonham on the green sparkle kit to any other. The creme color kit was very nice sounding as well. I really love the stainless kit from 77 as well it gave him that huge sound that was very similar to his 70 to 72 sound . I have never been a bit fan of the transparent mid 70s kit he just did not sound as powerful on that kit. It sounded pretty nice on the 73 tour. But I really don't like how it sounded on the 75 tour. It just didn't reverberate as much and sounded dry and just too tight.
  24. Plants voice had really declined to quite a degree between the 71 and 72 japan tours and the band is just not as powerful or tight on the 72 japan tour. They really seemed to lose a step between the 72 u s tour and japan. But they are still fantastic shows with many great highlights . There are some cuts where plant sounds amazing after he gets warmed up. It's cool to hear him actually hit all the studio high notes on the song remains the same and rain song sibly from October 2 and 3rd feature some amazing plant vocals. Probably the last time he ever sang it so well. But it seemed the band was starting to really loose their consistency on that tour . A stellar release could be made from those shows by cherry picking the highlights. Very interested in what this boxset may bring.
  25. I wonder if there will be a soundbaord track on it like when they put black dog from 928 on the 71 japan boxset.
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