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  1. Songs Remain the Same is a 1973 concert in NYC.

    BBC shows are 1970-71 live recordings played in a theater.

    How the West Was Won was a 1972 concert in California. 

    How come there is no official 1975 -1977 tours. 

    Dave Lewis of Tight but Loose magazine states that all of 1975 & 1977 were recorded for the band, 

    I think what it comes down to is the performance on most of the 1977 tour were poor and not something Jimmy would want to be heard. 

    I think the whole idea of Japan 1972 or 71 release would be a waste, same set list as the 1973 tour.   

  2. I think we Led Zeppelin fans know that the band is done. 2007 was the last time we will see the remaining members on stage as a unit. Robert Plant has moved so far from Zeppelin it is almost a thought in a dream to him. Furthermore I don't think I would want to see a bunch of grandpa's singing songs of my youth. I think there is no joy in Zeppelin for Robert. Losing a child, then a good friend it is probably not worth the pain. Led Zeppelin in physical form is gone, though the legend will remain the same.  

  3. Who cares, what a bootleg company says or post. there is over 318 bootlegs circulating and most of them are crap. Led Zeppelin is not making money off these bootlegs, so why care what empress valley says.  

  4. 20 hours ago, confounded_bridge said:

    Hi  everyone. I've  been  reading  this  forum  for  a  long  time  and  i  recently  created  an  account. I  enjoy  all  the  twelve  years  of  music  that  Led  Zeppelin  gave  to  us, and  i  am  a  huge  fan  of  the  1977  tour. I  see  that  the  77  tour  gets  slammed  by  some  waterheads  here  and  there, without  a  reason. I  decided  to  rank  all  the  77  shows, to  prove  that  most  of  them  are  good. THE  ORDER  IS  RANDOM. I  included  only  the  shows  that  we  have  recordings  for.

     

    BAD/WEIRD  SHOWS

    Tempe  Arizona, July  20  1977

    Oklahoma  city, April  3  1977  (the  band  is  unrehearsed)

    Chicago, April  6  1977  (the  band  is  unrehearsed)

    Chicago, April  7  1977  (the  band  still  sounds  a  little  bit  rusty)

    Landover   Maryland,  May  26  1977  (IMTOD  and  Kashmir  are  trainwrecks)

     

    MEDIOCRE-GOOD  SHOWS

    Houston  TX, May  21  1977  (good  performance)

    Fort  worth  TX, May  22  1977  (good  performance)

    Landover, May  25  and  28  1977  (mediocre  to  good)

    Cleveland, April  27  1977  (good)

    Chicago, April  9  1977  (good)

    Cincinatti, April  19  and  20  1977  (good)

    Atlanta, April  23  1977  (good)

    Kentucky, April  25  1977  (good)

    New  York, June  7  1977  (good)

    San  Diego, June  19  1977  (brilliant  playing  from  Jimmy, bad  playing  from  Bonzo)

    Seattle, July  17  1977  (good  show, but  shitty  SIBLY  and  Jimmy  is  lost  during  the  OTHAFA  solo)

    Oakland, July  23  1977  (good  show, but  Jimmy  completely  destroys  the  TYG  solo)

    Oakland, July  24  1977  (good)

     

    VERY  GOOD-LEGENDARY  SHOWS

    Chicago, April  10  1977  (very  good, the  only  bad  moment  is  the  first  TYG  solo, but  Jimmy  makes  up  with  the  second  solo)

    Cleveland, April  28  1977  (excellent  show, one  of  the  best  TYG, great  NQ, kashmir  and  ALS)

    Pontiac, April  30  1977  (excellent, Jimmy  plays  greatly)

    Birmingham, May  18  1977  (excellent)

    Landover, May  30  1977  (excellent)

    Tampa, June  3  1977  (it  started  excellent  and  powerful)

    New  York, June  8,10,11,13,14  1977  (excellent)

    Los  Angeles, June  21,22,23,25,26,27  1977  (epic, legendary  shows, with  the  22nd  being  my  favorite)

     

    I'd  like  to  hear  your  opinions  on  my  list.

     

     

     

    Someone invent a damn time machine, I have some Zeppelin concerts to go to!!

  5. 6 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said:

    Why does everyone assume Page is in complete control here? Who's to say the label isn't buggering him to death to release these remasters so they can make a quick buck? I mean, of course he has to sign off on it and do some promotion, but that's his job. He's not exactly the man signing paychecks here.

    Why? Because Jimmy holds the right to Led Zeppelin, and he is notorious on the quality when it comes to Zeppelin. Face it Zep Head, people who are fans of Zeppelin are tired of the cash grab.   

  6. Zeppelin 3 was the first CD I bought when the new remastered's came out. I was Happy as one could be with the sound and the richness of the whole thing. I hope someday Page will consider putting Zeppelin 3 and Un Named Zeppelin (4) out in Blue Ray Audio. That would be great! By the way not to plug any speakers, but the Sonos Player 1 sounds great when listing to Gallows Poll, Friends, Tangerine, That's the way. 

  7. As a Led Zeppelin fan and a male, I never looked at them as being "Sexy" I always thought they just had a cool stage presence. Maybe not so much in the 1977 with those glossy pants Plant wore during the Seattle Show. I just thought they had a way of not letting their appearance be the part of the show, they let the music do the talking. Now considering by 1977 the band was in terrible shape because of excessive drug use and alcohol consumption. So by then even Robert Plant admitted that the band was show boating a bit and it became less of the music and more of the scenery. I have talked to a lot of people who Saw Zeppelin in Seattle from their first tour to their last tour in America and a few of them said Zeppelin in 1977 Seattle was terrible, Jimmy was drunk, and the band just didn't have the same punch. So it wasn't so sexy. It was a slush.     

     

     

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  8. The first Led Zeppelin song I heard was Daze and Confused. I knew this to be the foundation of Heavy Metal. Then I heard Kashmir a couple of days later. I was only 15 years old. I've been hooked on Zeppelin ever since. Best band ever to walk the Earth. That is a fact.

  9. Around 1977 we all know the tragedy that befell R, Plant and his son. As the story goes, Plant was considering becoming a teacher of some sort. He was truly intending to leave Zeppelin behind. Well there is many videos and article stating that it was Bonham encouraging Plant to comeback. Well they end up making 1 more album, and then doing a small tour of Europe; before heading off to America. Well the last time Zeppelin was preparing for the American tour, John Bonham kinda freaks out while drunk saying "He doesn't want to do this anymore, I want to sing, I am not that good of a drummer now." (I am paraphrasing of course.) So this is my problem with this situation: What changed in Bonzo?, Was the drinking taking a serious effect on his mental health? If he didn't want to be a drummer anymore, why ask Robert to comeback? Was there an underling issue with Bonzo from the beginning?  I have read to many stories of his rage against anyone. Was John Bonham bipolar ? I know the only people that could answer these questions would be the band members and family, though I think it raises a good question. https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-last-days-of-led-zeppelin-days-of-thunder

  10. On 2/21/2018 at 8:37 AM, John M said:

    It usually depends on which ones I have listened to lately because there are so many great versions.  I cannot compare the versions across tours - they are too different.

    I think that the original TSRTS version will always be special to me.

    For 1975 one I have always gone back to is 3/27/75.  The interplay during the jam is special.

      For 1977 it is toss up between June 21 and June 23.

    Holy cow that is an Amazing version of NO QUARTER. WOW !!!

    I always thought NQ was kinda the bathroom break song for the 1977 tour. Because the Seattle 1973 is incredible. No disrespect to those that like the NQ 1977 versions, in my opinion they could have cut the length of NQ and play more tracks off Presence, imagine   hearing "Hot's on for No where"  "candy store Rock". 

  11. 35 minutes ago, strombringer101 said:

    I am sorry if this conversation has been written before. In saying that I shall begin. 

    Not being the biggest fan of Live unofficial recordings (bootlegs) I had to try open my prospective on the issue. I know that the sound is not alway the best so I learned to listen to the performance, and in doing so I discovered that their is some hidden gems in these sometimes horrible recordings.  One show that comes into mind is Kezar stadium show in 1973. Bonzo is a mad man on celebration day, and Page is the wizard I've only heard legends about. Than they explode into a mean version of Black Dog. Plant doing his best to hit those incredibly hard notes that would rip my lungs in two if I tried that scream at the end of B.D. The power Zeppelin had during their live shows has not been matched today by any band. I am very happy that Zeppelin collectors are sharing the magic of live LED ZEPPELIN. 

    My Zepptology continues.

    someone please tell me where this show is from ? 

    Holy COW ZEPPELIN KILLED IT!!!

  12. I am sorry if this conversation has been written before. In saying that I shall begin. 

    Not being the biggest fan of Live unofficial recordings (bootlegs) I had to try open my prospective on the issue. I know that the sound is not alway the best so I learned to listen to the performance, and in doing so I discovered that their is some hidden gems in these sometimes horrible recordings.  One show that comes into mind is Kezar stadium show in 1973. Bonzo is a mad man on celebration day, and Page is the wizard I've only heard legends about. Than they explode into a mean version of Black Dog. Plant doing his best to hit those incredibly hard notes that would rip my lungs in two if I tried that scream at the end of B.D. The power Zeppelin had during their live shows has not been matched today by any band. I am very happy that Zeppelin collectors are sharing the magic of live LED ZEPPELIN. 

    My Zepptology continues.

  13. I may not like the idea of Robert Plant always turning down a Zeppelin reunion, though this has been the case since 1982. Led Zeppelin is done, at least with Robert as a singer. Furthermore I have read in this forum that Jimmy Page might not be able to play guitar anymore because of his hands. I don't know if that is true or not but the question has to be asked? "how come Page always claims he has new music coming" I personally think Page is not able to write new tunes.  

  14. I really Hope that Jimmy doesn't release these shows. The set-list for these shows are already on an official release. 

    I hope that he has something from the 1977 tour, or 1980 tour over Europe.  If anything why not anything from 1969 American tour? 

  15. Here are the facts. Jimmy Page did go to court over these bootlegs being sold. 

    he seizure of CDs and DVDs included counterfeit Led Zeppelin material valued at an estimated £11,500, a £220 set of recordings from a Led Zeppelin tour in Japan and a £40 set of a warm-up session in Denmark. It also included an estimated £1,790

    BPI anti-piracy manager David Wood welcomed Langley's conviction. "Langley was notorious in the trade for the sale and distribution of bootlegs and is another of the major bootleggers to be convicted. He'd amassed a huge personal fortune by ripping off musicians, record labels, music publishers, and the state, but justice has finally caught up with him," he said.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/01/led_zep_piracy_conviction/

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