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    What show or live song are you listening to now?

    Wow! This is the first time I listen to a patched version of this show. I just noticed that Jimmy played "Bouree" with the bow! Amazing!
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    New EVSD soundboard?

    Yes sir!
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    New website/ live Zeppelin?

    Shirley is not a trustworthy person. He made a bad remix of the MSG '73 multitracks (Johnesy's bass and Bonham's kickdrum are too low in the mix, compared to the original 1976 version.) He also did a bad job with the drum sound on the HTWWW tapes. And finally, those awful video effects on Earl's Court video, constant camera changes and useless inserts. MSG '73 video of OTHAFA suffers from the same thing. I will never believe that Shirley listened to soundboard recordings from Cleveland, Pontiac, Birmingham, Baton Rouge, Greensboro, New York and Los Angeles and didn't like the performances. I believe he just didn't like the dry soundboard sound and said that.
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    New EVSD soundboard?

    1975: Reel to reel recorder 1977: Cassette recorder The only bad '77 performances of kashmir are 5-26 (Landover) and 7-20 (Tempe.) Also count 5-21 (Houston) and 6-23 (L.A.) These last 2 versions are not bad, but they are plagued by mistakes. So we have 4 "bad" '77 performances of kashmir, out of 44. The numbers are not lying. Plus '77 was the best year for this song, thanks to the double black mellotron, the Danelectro guitar and Plant's improved voice.
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    New EVSD soundboard?

    And I forgot Greensboro and Baton Rouge. Both are rumored to be awesome shows.
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    New EVSD soundboard?

    Why you prefer '75? Personally, I am bored after 4 years of '75 releases. A soundboard recording of Pontiac, Birmingham, Cleveland, NY or L.A. '77 seems less important to you? I am just asking of curiosity, because I am surprised by the fact that so many people keep trashing the '77 tour, especialy when most of the '75 tour is plagued by Plant's shot voice.
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    New Mystery Soundboard?

    This has been discussed before:
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    Seattle 1977 Video with Remastered Sound

    No, not at all. Actually, the Seattle video is the source of negativity for the 1977 tour. All the bad rumors come from people who listen to this show and then comment how bad is Jimmy's playing, or how bad is Plant's voice. The Seattle show should never be considered a good (or even fair) representation of the 1977 tour, simply because Plant's voice is destroyed, like it was in 1975. The only 1977 shows featuring a hoarse Plant are Seattle and Tempe. In my opinion, the best representation of the tour is the Cleveland 4-28-77 show. A mind blowing show, just a small step above the L.A. shows.
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    What show or live song are you listening to now?

    What's wrong with you? If you don't have "bootleg ears" get on with it. I appreciate all the audience recordings we have, no matter the quality.
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    Hi everyone. I've been reading this forum for a long time and i recently created an account. I enjoy all the twelve years of music that Led Zeppelin gave to us, and i am a huge fan of the 1977 tour. I see that the 77 tour gets slammed by some waterheads here and there, without a reason. I decided to rank all the 77 shows, to prove that most of them are good. THE ORDER IS RANDOM. I included only the shows that we have recordings for. BAD/WEIRD SHOWS Tempe Arizona, July 20 1977 Oklahoma city, April 3 1977 (the band is unrehearsed) Chicago, April 6 1977 (the band is unrehearsed) Chicago, April 7 1977 (the band still sounds a little bit rusty) Landover Maryland, May 26 1977 (IMTOD and Kashmir are trainwrecks) MEDIOCRE-GOOD SHOWS Houston TX, May 21 1977 (good performance) Fort worth TX, May 22 1977 (good performance) Landover, May 25 and 28 1977 (mediocre to good) Cleveland, April 27 1977 (good) Chicago, April 9 1977 (good) Cincinatti, April 19 and 20 1977 (good) Atlanta, April 23 1977 (good) Kentucky, April 25 1977 (good) New York, June 7 1977 (good) San Diego, June 19 1977 (brilliant playing from Jimmy, bad playing from Bonzo) Seattle, July 17 1977 (good show, but shitty SIBLY and Jimmy is lost during the OTHAFA solo) Oakland, July 23 1977 (good show, but Jimmy completely destroys the TYG solo) Oakland, July 24 1977 (good) VERY GOOD-LEGENDARY SHOWS Chicago, April 10 1977 (very good, the only bad moment is the first TYG solo, but Jimmy makes up with the second solo) Cleveland, April 28 1977 (excellent show, one of the best TYG, great NQ, kashmir and ALS) Pontiac, April 30 1977 (excellent, Jimmy plays greatly) Birmingham, May 18 1977 (excellent) Landover, May 30 1977 (excellent) Tampa, June 3 1977 (it started excellent and powerful) New York, June 8,10,11,13,14 1977 (excellent) Los Angeles, June 21,22,23,25,26,27 1977 (epic, legendary shows, with the 22nd being my favorite) I'd like to hear your opinions on my list.
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    What's the weather like where you are?

    It is snowing heavily right now and the temperature in my city is -3 Celsius...
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    Cleveland 4/28/77 alternate source

    A download link was available on argenteumastrum.com but only for 24 hours. He uploaded the complete audio, some awesome photos and a story from the taper. Unfortunately, when I saw the link, only 1 hour was left. I managed to download all the songs but only 4 photos. If somebody has the rest of it, i'd like to ask for a link.
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    So, do you think that all these people who went to the Cleveland, Pontiac, Birmingham, NY and LA shows feel bad and have regreted? I don't think so. Listen more to the really good '77 shows and you will change opinion.
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    Well, the same with 1975 and 1980.
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    It is totally unfair to compare a good '75 version of STH to a really bad '77 version. Why you didn't chose 5/30/77 or 6/23/77? Ft worth is a good show (not great of course) but that sth version sucks. Do the comparison again, but this time please be fair.
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    Nitpicking Page 1977

    I remeber hearing the 5/28 audience recording. After the show there is a guy that says: "Great show. I hope it comes out one day." This prooves that the sterile and murky soundboards sometimes give us the wrong opinion about a show.
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    Cleveland 4/28/77 alternate source

    +1 I'd like to hear the missing piano jam section of no quarter. And to approach this show from a different angle.
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    Cleveland 4/28/77 alternate source

    I want to personally thank you for opening this thread, because I feel that this sudden release after many years of knowing existence was triggered by your thread. Also, thank you for your awesome youtube uploads!
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    Cleveland 4/28/77 alternate source

    Yes!!! After 41 years, the second source is about to start circulating! I can't wait to hear the ending of no quarter and the stairway intro without the "oh, fuck" from the taper. Details from argenteumastrum.com: "T2K has just announced their new product, The Destroyers, a nine disc set covering both Cleveland April 1977 dates. The first three discs are dedicated to the famous and one of the most bootlegged tapes from April 27th, sourced from stunning soundboard quality. Next three discs are containing excellent quality audience recording from the April 28th show, also often bootlegged over the years. The last three discs debuting with previously uncirculated second audience tape for the second Cleveland show. The box itself is a lavish, hinged open box set housing three individual glossy gatefold sleeves. Important note: The author of this site was emailed by the taper of the second audience recording and was kindly requested to inform all the readers to not buying this new T2K product because of violation of taper's conditions. The tape itself was discussed to be shared freely among the fans and because of that it will be freely available foer download over next few days in stunning audiophile 24/96 quality, profesionally mastered and exclusively supplied wit detailed info, actual show photos and personal story of the taper. Eye thank you and Happy Xmas for you all!"
  20. First of all: I don't want to start any rumors or debates. I just want to share my observations with you and discuss about them. A year ago, I was searching the web to find photos of the 1977 laser pyramid. I honestly don't remember exactly the keywords I used, but I came across a website and I saw the photo I am going to post below. One guy claimed that this photo is a fragment of the 5/21/1977 video. I quickly took a screenshot with my phone. I recently tried to find again that website, but no matter the keywords I used, I couldn't find it again. Because I am a vintage electronics fan, familiar with videotapes, it seems to me that the "photo" is really a snippet of a video. Look at the line at centre, its the classic line of a videotape that goes fast forward. Also, note the tiny line at the bottom of the picture. The Seattle video has the same line, although bigger. And finally, an other thing I noticed: All the 1977 soundboard recordings have cuts every 45-47 minutes. This is because the showco workers used 90 minute cassettes (approximately 45 minutes each side.) The only 1977 soundboards that don't have 45 minute cuts are Houston and Seattle. Houston has only one cut during Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp and Seattle has two cuts: One cut during No Quarter and a tiny cut during the guitar solo. Also, the Houston soundboard sounds different, compared to the other '77 board tapes. The difference with the Seattle tape is that Houston recording is stereophonic, while Seattle recording is monaural. My conclusion is that the 5/21/77 soundboard recording is actually a video soundtrack! What do you people think? Edit: I know that no cameras were on stage. The show was possibly videotaped from an upper room with a single camera cctv system.
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    PROOF THAT ANOTHER 1977 PRO-SHOT VIDEO EXISTS

    The same camera crew is visible on the June 14 1977 photos. I wonder how much stuff is being hoarded.
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    PROOF THAT ANOTHER 1977 PRO-SHOT VIDEO EXISTS

    To sum up, this is from MSG and its either a VHS tape loaded with photos, or a very good quality amateur film, transferred to tape. Mystery finally solved. Thanks for the info guys! I still hope that the uncirculated 8mm films from Pontiac, L.A. and Birmingham will show up one day.
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    09/29/1971 Osaka - Stairway To Heaven - EVSD SBD Single

    +1 And where is "celebration day"? Great version and I was waiting just for these 2 songs and the magnificent organ solo. WTF EV?
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    PROOF THAT ANOTHER 1977 PRO-SHOT VIDEO EXISTS

    NO. I listened to it carefully and I didn't find any cuts, covered or not. (Except bron yr aur stomp.) And it sounds waaay different, compared to the other tapes. Prove your claim if you want.
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    Pontiac Silverdome Footage

    It was filmed and projected on the giant screen. We don't know if it was recorded. At least, 24 minutes of 8mm footage exist.
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