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  1. 21 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:

    More than likely coming from the Japanese crew that recorded the shows for the Japanese division of Atlantic.  There as the great magazine article a few years ago describing how they recorded the shows.   

    The Japanese crew recorded the multitracks. The releases we 're getting for 928 and 929 are plain soundboard tapes.

  2. 2 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:

    Nah, have at it if you wish and don’t let me stop you.  There are what like 500 live tapes and many more exciting ones.   And isn’t Mr Freezer dead?   And he has children so let the man live in peace.  I never thought his tapes were anything special.  I heard that Les Astray album years ago with part of Baton Rouge and compared to the Millard 3/11/75 tape I had that Led Astray sounded like a turd. 

    Id rather learn about tons of other live Zep tapes and how they surfaced than those.

    Forget about his other tapes. The Baton Rouge 1977 tape itself is not only special, it's legendary. And it remains in the hands of a selected few (if not totally lost) because of some selfish assholes and bootlegers. Freezer got angry and refused to share his tape with the general public. 

  3. 3 hours ago, MackeyWilliams said:

    Not only dead wrong but really dumb. You can see the "birthday boy" blowing into the bottle when the other person is hitting the bass strings with the drum sticks.

    Try harder next time, expert. 

    If you knew who Strider is, you wouldn't dare talk to him like this. He went to many LZ shows, including 5 out of 6 LA '77 shows. He shared his memories with us. His desriptions are the closest thing of being actually there, 40+ years ago. I admire him for doing that. So please show him some respect. Talking about his response, he probably hasn't seen the Seattle video for years, like many other fans, for the very simple reason that there are many '77 brilliant shows that make the Seattle show look mediocre. Or he is just joking.  To stay on the thread, I will reply to you: The person with the drumsticks is Jimmy Page. He did this while waiting for the guitar tech to bring him another guitar, because he broke a string.

  4. 3 hours ago, Nutrocker said:

    Can't really argue with that list. I would add the April 9 and July 24 to the "bad/weird" category but that's about it. Other than the third night, yeah, the Chicago shows are a bit under rehearsed but I'll still take 'em over the Landover shows, which are just lackluster performances all around. The Louisville show is pretty sloppy as well due to the rowdy crowd. 

    The Cleveland April 28 show is still the gold standard for me because IMO that gig is about as technically perfect a performance Zeppelin could give in 1977.

    Thanks for the reply. I am so glad I see you back!!!

  5. 7 hours ago, duckman said:

    That's a perfect summary👍 and the way I like to digest the EC SB/audio feeds: first hour 5/25, than 24 (No Quarter, Trampled, Dazed, Stairway)

    And for  the encores; 5/25. 

    Black dog from 5/24 is far superior to the version from 5/25. I completely agree with the rest of your post.

  6. 2 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:

    Please don't ever use the term Bro here as you immediately lose any and all credibility when you do so. This has been a public service announcement, and I am a pink toothbrush. Good-night.

    He is banned now.

  7. 9 hours ago, strombringer101 said:

    Dick head listen up.

    they deleted the thread, you are overwhelmingly stupid for criticism on people who didn’t care about Bootlegs of a concert.  Do you think I really care what others in this forum think about my opinions about a Led Zeppelin bootleg or Led Zeppelin concert I am just stating facts that many many people told me about that show it was all the hype lacking  substance   there of course there were some great shows that were magically captured on bootleg but of it now so who cares if I Pointed out many people who saw Led Zeppelin in 77 have said. 

    By today, you are in my ignore list. I hope the moderators will realize you have two accounts. End of the conversation.

  8. 2 hours ago, strombringer101 said:

    He does the same thing to me. He has no life, Listen here dickhead majority of the people who I have talk to you about the 1977 Led Zeppelin tour said that it was not good Steve Slaton KZ OK/ KISW fame here in Seattle got to meet the band Jimmy page was so wasted he had to be carried off the helicopter to the weight in limousines.  Does this mean we don’t like Led Zeppelin even Robert Plant has stated that the band was not itself at 1977 you’re just a jerk off that likes to argue with people get help troll .

    You are the troll here. Yesterday you said you were stoned on marijuana. The thread was magically deleted. Keep in mind I am not the only member I realized what game you play. Some other members here agree with the fact you are just trolling and talking shit, trying to cause major fuss. Don't try to hide. You need help, not me. On the deleted thread, I clarified my position by summing up all your controversional, self-canceling  posts. On that thread, I also asked sorry from JohnOsbourne for overreacting on his opinion. You came with a stupid marijuana statement and the thread was deleted. STOP TROLLING. 

  9. My  point  was  generally  about  those  who  make  negative  comments  about  the  tour  based  on  minor  factors, ignoring  the  giganticity  and  the  vibe  of  the  tour. Saying  that  a  zeppelin  tour  "was  shit"  is  an  exaggeration, even  for  the  '80  tour.

  10. On 6/24/2018 at 2:16 AM, JohnOsbourne said:

    Ha ha, no sooner do I slam '77, then I'm reminded, this is indeed a very good solo.

     

    On 10/5/2017 at 3:10 AM, JohnOsbourne said:

    I'm no fan of '77, but I have to admit, these are very cool pics, thanks for posting.

     

    On 4/19/2019 at 3:42 AM, JohnOsbourne said:

    The '77 tour was shit.

    Next  time  you  'll  see  a  great  photo  from  '77  or  be  impressed  by  a  blistering  solo, don't  say  the  same  shit  "i'm  not  a  fan  of  '77  but  I  like  blah  blah..."  because  it  makes  normal  fans  to  cringe. You  either  like  the  tour  or  hate  it. No  bullshit  anymore.

  11. 3 hours ago, strombringer101 said:

    I hope it’s not another 75 or 77’ show.

    the set list in 77’ is alright but a 25 minute version of No quarter is a joke. I’ve listened to many different concerts of the 77’ tour and I just find that part of the show boring as hell. Furthermore when did Led Zeppelin become a Jazz band? I always found it a shame that they didn’t play more off  Presence, drop Moby Dick, since I’ve been loving you, no quarter, Battle of ..., then replace those songs with Hots on for no where, Electric version of Gallows poll, poor Tom. By the 1977 Led Zeppelin live wasn’t the best, Pink Floyd In the flesh tour was the shows to see. 

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    I  dare  you  tell  this  to  all  the  people  who  saw  them  live  in  '77. They  were  untouchable, better  than  everyone  at  the  time. You  simply  weren't  there, you  judge  by  the  bootlegs  which  is  not  fair. (Strider, where  are  you?)

  12. 28 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:

    Does anyone know for sure?   Were the 1973 shows recorded on reel to reel?   Or cassette?  If they used reels in 1975 and on earlier tours why would they have used a cassette machine in 1973?  

    Were the copies swiped from Jimmy 1gen cassette copies of the reels and then we have bad copies of the 1gen cassettes stolen from Jimmy?   Jimmy May have the entire 1973 tour in Master Open reels

    1973  and  1975:  Reel  to  reel

    1977: Cassette

    The  '73  and  '80  sbd  recordings  were  stolen  from  Jimmy's  house. That's  why  they  circulate  since  the  eighties  and  thats  why  we  have  never   seen  a  new  '73  or  '80  sbd  released  by  E.V. Whoever  transferred  the  sound  from  the  reels  to  the  cassettes, did  a  really  bad  job  with  the  tape  machines. The  '75  and  '77  sbd  recordings  most  likely  come  from  a  showco  employee  which  copied  the  original  master  tapes  before  giving  them  to  Jimmy. E.V.  buys  the  first  generation  copies  and  releases  them.

  13. 7 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:

    It may be hard to believe but anything was possible on the 77' tour. Everyone in that circus was pissed to the gills 24/7. The band, management, and road crew. The fact they played so many damn fine shows that tour is testament to their combined constitutions. The very fact the tour did not crash and burn by the end of the 1st leg is just amazing.

    Knowing how messed up the road crew was I am surprised we don't have Captain & Tennille spliced in.

    My  post  was  about  '73  not  '77.

  14. 15 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:

    That’s what everyone says.   True or internet myth? Hard to know the facts.   Sometimes someone says something and it gets repeated a million times and it becomes fact. 

    It  is  hard  for  me  to  believe  that  they  made  all  these  recordings  with  incorrect  bias. I  mean, all  of  them? It  can't  be  that. The  "quick  and  dirty  transfer"  scenario  fits  better  in  my  opinion.

  15. 2 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:

    The 1975 boards do sound amazing.   The 1977 boards sound more like the 1973 boards.    

    Sure hindsight is 20/20 and we’ll never know for sure but the ‘73 & ‘77 could possibly have sounded better with just a few simple settings.   Maybe they were recorded with normal bias tapes which would not have as much top end as a Chrome or Metal bias cassette.  Or they were recorded with Chrome cassettes but the bias setting was set to normal and not Chrome.  Anyone who was a big cassette person knows these little things can affect the frequency range.   

    I was a taper for years and love audience tapes but it’s funny how people whine about having these boards.  We’re lucky as hell to have any of them!   

    The  1973  tapes  were  badly  transferred, that's  why  they  sound  like  shit. The  tape  machine  was  not  azimuth  adjusted.

  16. 4 hours ago, tom kid said:

    I'm hoping for a SBD of both Cincinnati shows from '77 tbh, that version of NQ from the 19th is maybe the best ever. The outro solo absolutely smokes in particular; not to mention Lady Madonna!

    Yes  sir!  :thumbsup:

  17. 1 hour ago, pujols05 said:

    Fair question. I know some find the '75 setlist somewhat boring, but I don't. I enjoy a '77 show as much as the next fan, but there are niggles: setlist is a bit bloated, the pace can be sluggish (some performances of Kashmir are downright pedestrian), and we all know about Jimmy's less than precise playing on that tour. Probably the deciding factor for me is that '75 soundboards uniformly sound better (at least to me) than '77 soundboards, and I have wondered about that. Different system in '77? 

    I'll take whatever it is. 

    1975: Reel  to  reel  recorder

    1977: Cassette  recorder

    The  only  bad  '77  performances  of  kashmir  are  5-26  (Landover)  and  7-20  (Tempe.) Also  count  5-21  (Houston)  and  6-23  (L.A.) These  last  2  versions  are  not  bad, but  they  are  plagued  by  mistakes. So  we  have  4  "bad"  '77  performances  of  kashmir, out  of  44. The  numbers  are  not  lying. Plus  '77  was  the  best  year  for  this  song, thanks  to  the  double  black  mellotron, the  Danelectro  guitar  and  Plant's  improved  voice. 

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