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48 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:
Could be they also set up an extra deck just to record a rawfeed maybe for monitoring purposes
This
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21 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:
More than likely coming from the Japanese crew that recorded the shows for the Japanese division of Atlantic. There as the great magazine article a few years ago describing how they recorded the shows.
The Japanese crew recorded the multitracks. The releases we 're getting for 928 and 929 are plain soundboard tapes.
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I mostly agree. But the best version of kashmir is 6/22/77 followed by 6/25/77 and 6/21/77. As for OTHAFA, I would also pick 6/19/72 as my favourite early version. The BEST later version is 6/22/77, no contest for this.
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2 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:
Nah, have at it if you wish and don’t let me stop you. There are what like 500 live tapes and many more exciting ones. And isn’t Mr Freezer dead? And he has children so let the man live in peace. I never thought his tapes were anything special. I heard that Les Astray album years ago with part of Baton Rouge and compared to the Millard 3/11/75 tape I had that Led Astray sounded like a turd.
Id rather learn about tons of other live Zep tapes and how they surfaced than those.
Forget about his other tapes. The Baton Rouge 1977 tape itself is not only special, it's legendary. And it remains in the hands of a selected few (if not totally lost) because of some selfish assholes and bootlegers. Freezer got angry and refused to share his tape with the general public.
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3 hours ago, MackeyWilliams said:
Not only dead wrong but really dumb. You can see the "birthday boy" blowing into the bottle when the other person is hitting the bass strings with the drum sticks.
Try harder next time, expert.
If you knew who Strider is, you wouldn't dare talk to him like this. He went to many LZ shows, including 5 out of 6 LA '77 shows. He shared his memories with us. His desriptions are the closest thing of being actually there, 40+ years ago. I admire him for doing that. So please show him some respect. Talking about his response, he probably hasn't seen the Seattle video for years, like many other fans, for the very simple reason that there are many '77 brilliant shows that make the Seattle show look mediocre. Or he is just joking. To stay on the thread, I will reply to you: The person with the drumsticks is Jimmy Page. He did this while waiting for the guitar tech to bring him another guitar, because he broke a string.
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3 hours ago, Nutrocker said:
Can't really argue with that list. I would add the April 9 and July 24 to the "bad/weird" category but that's about it. Other than the third night, yeah, the Chicago shows are a bit under rehearsed but I'll still take 'em over the Landover shows, which are just lackluster performances all around. The Louisville show is pretty sloppy as well due to the rowdy crowd.
The Cleveland April 28 show is still the gold standard for me because IMO that gig is about as technically perfect a performance Zeppelin could give in 1977.
Thanks for the reply. I am so glad I see you back!!!
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7 hours ago, duckman said:
That's a perfect summary👍 and the way I like to digest the EC SB/audio feeds: first hour 5/25, than 24 (No Quarter, Trampled, Dazed, Stairway)
And for the encores; 5/25.
Black dog from 5/24 is far superior to the version from 5/25. I completely agree with the rest of your post.
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Birmingham, Alabama 5/18/1977: Jimmy playing "bouree" with the bow. Never heard him doing it before with the bow. He usually did it as a part of Heartbreaker.
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2 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:
Please don't ever use the term Bro here as you immediately lose any and all credibility when you do so. This has been a public service announcement, and I am a pink toothbrush. Good-night.
He is banned now.
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To the other members here: Sorry for getting off track and making this useless and ugly conversation. Lesson learned. I will never mess with an idiot again.
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9 hours ago, strombringer101 said:
Dick head listen up.
they deleted the thread, you are overwhelmingly stupid for criticism on people who didn’t care about Bootlegs of a concert. Do you think I really care what others in this forum think about my opinions about a Led Zeppelin bootleg or Led Zeppelin concert I am just stating facts that many many people told me about that show it was all the hype lacking substance there of course there were some great shows that were magically captured on bootleg but of it now so who cares if I Pointed out many people who saw Led Zeppelin in 77 have said.
By today, you are in my ignore list. I hope the moderators will realize you have two accounts. End of the conversation.
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2 hours ago, strombringer101 said:
He does the same thing to me. He has no life, Listen here dickhead majority of the people who I have talk to you about the 1977 Led Zeppelin tour said that it was not good Steve Slaton KZ OK/ KISW fame here in Seattle got to meet the band Jimmy page was so wasted he had to be carried off the helicopter to the weight in limousines. Does this mean we don’t like Led Zeppelin even Robert Plant has stated that the band was not itself at 1977 you’re just a jerk off that likes to argue with people get help troll .
You are the troll here. Yesterday you said you were stoned on marijuana. The thread was magically deleted. Keep in mind I am not the only member I realized what game you play. Some other members here agree with the fact you are just trolling and talking shit, trying to cause major fuss. Don't try to hide. You need help, not me. On the deleted thread, I clarified my position by summing up all your controversional, self-canceling posts. On that thread, I also asked sorry from JohnOsbourne for overreacting on his opinion. You came with a stupid marijuana statement and the thread was deleted. STOP TROLLING.
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1 hour ago, Crater97 said:
Hahaha he removed the other post! Preach it!!
And yesterday he asked the moderators to delete a whole thread because I unveiled him. He is just a troll, ignore him. He has two accounts here.
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My point was generally about those who make negative comments about the tour based on minor factors, ignoring the giganticity and the vibe of the tour. Saying that a zeppelin tour "was shit" is an exaggeration, even for the '80 tour.
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On 6/24/2018 at 2:16 AM, JohnOsbourne said:
Ha ha, no sooner do I slam '77, then I'm reminded, this is indeed a very good solo.
On 10/5/2017 at 3:10 AM, JohnOsbourne said:I'm no fan of '77, but I have to admit, these are very cool pics, thanks for posting.
On 4/19/2019 at 3:42 AM, JohnOsbourne said:The '77 tour was shit.
Next time you 'll see a great photo from '77 or be impressed by a blistering solo, don't say the same shit "i'm not a fan of '77 but I like blah blah..." because it makes normal fans to cringe. You either like the tour or hate it. No bullshit anymore.
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On 5/6/2019 at 11:49 AM, Sticks of Fire said:
I’ll bet the 1973 open reels (surely in Jimmy possession) sound great like the 1975 reels.
I agree 100%
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3 hours ago, strombringer101 said:
I hope it’s not another 75 or 77’ show.
the set list in 77’ is alright but a 25 minute version of No quarter is a joke. I’ve listened to many different concerts of the 77’ tour and I just find that part of the show boring as hell. Furthermore when did Led Zeppelin become a Jazz band? I always found it a shame that they didn’t play more off Presence, drop Moby Dick, since I’ve been loving you, no quarter, Battle of ..., then replace those songs with Hots on for no where, Electric version of Gallows poll, poor Tom. By the 1977 Led Zeppelin live wasn’t the best, Pink Floyd In the flesh tour was the shows to see.
I dare you tell this to all the people who saw them live in '77. They were untouchable, better than everyone at the time. You simply weren't there, you judge by the bootlegs which is not fair. (Strider, where are you?)
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28 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:
Does anyone know for sure? Were the 1973 shows recorded on reel to reel? Or cassette? If they used reels in 1975 and on earlier tours why would they have used a cassette machine in 1973?
Were the copies swiped from Jimmy 1gen cassette copies of the reels and then we have bad copies of the 1gen cassettes stolen from Jimmy? Jimmy May have the entire 1973 tour in Master Open reels
1973 and 1975: Reel to reel
1977: Cassette
The '73 and '80 sbd recordings were stolen from Jimmy's house. That's why they circulate since the eighties and thats why we have never seen a new '73 or '80 sbd released by E.V. Whoever transferred the sound from the reels to the cassettes, did a really bad job with the tape machines. The '75 and '77 sbd recordings most likely come from a showco employee which copied the original master tapes before giving them to Jimmy. E.V. buys the first generation copies and releases them.
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7 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:
It may be hard to believe but anything was possible on the 77' tour. Everyone in that circus was pissed to the gills 24/7. The band, management, and road crew. The fact they played so many damn fine shows that tour is testament to their combined constitutions. The very fact the tour did not crash and burn by the end of the 1st leg is just amazing.
Knowing how messed up the road crew was I am surprised we don't have Captain & Tennille spliced in.
My post was about '73 not '77.
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15 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:
That’s what everyone says. True or internet myth? Hard to know the facts. Sometimes someone says something and it gets repeated a million times and it becomes fact.
It is hard for me to believe that they made all these recordings with incorrect bias. I mean, all of them? It can't be that. The "quick and dirty transfer" scenario fits better in my opinion.
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2 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:
The 1975 boards do sound amazing. The 1977 boards sound more like the 1973 boards.
Sure hindsight is 20/20 and we’ll never know for sure but the ‘73 & ‘77 could possibly have sounded better with just a few simple settings. Maybe they were recorded with normal bias tapes which would not have as much top end as a Chrome or Metal bias cassette. Or they were recorded with Chrome cassettes but the bias setting was set to normal and not Chrome. Anyone who was a big cassette person knows these little things can affect the frequency range.
I was a taper for years and love audience tapes but it’s funny how people whine about having these boards. We’re lucky as hell to have any of them!
The 1973 tapes were badly transferred, that's why they sound like shit. The tape machine was not azimuth adjusted.
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14 hours ago, ZepHead315 said:
Wow! This is the first time I listen to a patched version of this show. I just noticed that Jimmy played "Bouree" with the bow! Amazing!
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4 hours ago, tom kid said:
I'm hoping for a SBD of both Cincinnati shows from '77 tbh, that version of NQ from the 19th is maybe the best ever. The outro solo absolutely smokes in particular; not to mention Lady Madonna!
Yes sir!
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1 hour ago, pujols05 said:
Fair question. I know some find the '75 setlist somewhat boring, but I don't. I enjoy a '77 show as much as the next fan, but there are niggles: setlist is a bit bloated, the pace can be sluggish (some performances of Kashmir are downright pedestrian), and we all know about Jimmy's less than precise playing on that tour. Probably the deciding factor for me is that '75 soundboards uniformly sound better (at least to me) than '77 soundboards, and I have wondered about that. Different system in '77?
I'll take whatever it is.
1975: Reel to reel recorder
1977: Cassette recorder
The only bad '77 performances of kashmir are 5-26 (Landover) and 7-20 (Tempe.) Also count 5-21 (Houston) and 6-23 (L.A.) These last 2 versions are not bad, but they are plagued by mistakes. So we have 4 "bad" '77 performances of kashmir, out of 44. The numbers are not lying. Plus '77 was the best year for this song, thanks to the double black mellotron, the Danelectro guitar and Plant's improved voice.
Top Performances of 1977? (EXCLUDING NY & LA)
in Led Zeppelin Live
Posted
This is indeed a great show but no recording circulates.