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ADK-Zeppy

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  1. The recorded version of TWS must have had some clever manipulation going on. I hear that Zeppelin “echo” in Clutch in their video of “50,000 Unstoppable Watts” between the bass and guitar. In this example, it was the bass player that came up with the unison harmony lick that links two parts together. I haven't found many other examples out there, but certainly, Zeppelin's influence can still be felt these days. ADK-Zeppy
  2. Welcome ncdoc! Not off base at all. I've been posting here for awhile, but consider myself a “newbie” compared to the members here with uber knowledge of all things Zeppelin. The Wanton Song is also one of my Zep favorites because it is so different than many of the band's other compositions. Lots to listen for in the WS. I became fascinated with the piece after listening to the “practice” recordings or sound checks; using that song to warm up with. There is a lot of passages to listen to in the WS and a lesson on how good those four musicians' time and rhythm were perfected. All four members' parts fit together like a fine woven tapestry. ADK-Zeppy
  3. A big reason people today still listen to and regard Zeppelin as at the top of all-time list of great Rock bands is their individual musicianship and the skills to put together great guitar riffs connected to a great Rock music voice; that could both stir and soothe all in one composition. Combine both with the swagger and attitude as a 4-piece band shrewdly and deftly managed by a larger than life Peter Grant. They were as different as the Beatles, but with a more powerful presence. ADK-Zeppy
  4. Zeppelin may have decided that a live performance (no matter how good) would not sound quite like the recorded version. Plant's voice and the processing of it on ITTOD sounds much like what Plant would go on to use in his later solo albums.
  5. Steve, I listened to it and have to say that this is your best work to date. Lots of fidelity and separation of instruments. ADK-Zeppy
  6. The guitar on the soundboard recording from 1969, sounds like his Telecaster, to me. Do we know when he switched for live performances and would that performance contain his Tele or his Les Paul #1? ADK-Zeppy
  7. Steve, This is the clearest sounding of all of your recent re-working of soundboard recordings. Listening with my earbuds proves that to me. Excellent job, and thanks for sharing it with all of us. ADK-Zeppy
  8. Steve would you kindly send me a copy of this latest effort? Many thanks. ADK-Zeppy
  9. I can well imagine how much excitement would be generated when the announcement appeared tha5 Page & Plant and company would be appearing at a small venue or club. Perfect way to see these two up close and personal. ADK-Zeppy
  10. I enjoy reading these critiques of the Zeppelin concerts, and I know it's a small point, but I would give lower marks overall to some of the songs with Page being out of tune or rushing the beat here and there. A lot of mistakes could be attributed to the hectic touring schedule and too, they were young and living in the moment” so to speak. The out of tune-ness can be due to those thin strings Page used and hot stage lighting, humidity, etc. where it's quite difficult to keep his guitar perfectly in tune. Fast forward to the mid 90's foursome with Lee, and Jones, and you don't hear much of that. Plant used his voice in a range that would ensure preserving it. Page was less frantic, more sure of himself and in control of his playing. My wish is for more “sound check” recordings to show up such as the YT one of Zeppelin working up a version of “The Wonton Song”. I sort of wish I could have witnessed them doing these recording rehearsals, because as guitar player myself, it would allow me to really judge for myself; their methods and musicianship. Then, wouldn't we all?
  11. Hi Steve, I started last evening to listen to this creation and on “Sick Again” I hear Page's guitar split from the center into my left earbud. Was that intentional and was it on the original live recording of this concert. AFK-Zeppy
  12. Hi Steve. Based upon these samples, I have to ask you to forward me the link to the Earl's Court performance. Thank you for sharing these amongst the forum members. ADK-Zeppy
  13. I was a late comer to Zeppelin, but I was drawn to them for their group sound and the voice /guitar interplay between Plant's voice and Jimmy Page's unique approach to playing guitar where he blended rhythm and melody so that, at times, sounded like a 2nd guitar was in the band. My point is partly made when Page/Plant duo continued with a different bass and drum duo in the 1990's. Then too is that fact that Robert kept his voice intact up til’ recently, even though he has not the range of his younger days, his style and voice qualities are still recognizable today when many other singers cannot be as robust in their singing. ADK-Zeppy
  14. I read Mr. Smith's book and throughly enjoyed it. Mr. Smith in his chosen profession, was part of the fabric and the “unseen” part of music making and the recording and documenting the music many of us grew up on. ADK-Zeppy
  15. Thanks for this glimpse into your experience. Were you in Canada at the time you met all three? ADk-Zeppy
  16. Quite a nice story and yes, you were lucky to catch him for a chance encounter. If were I in your position at that moment, I guess that I would have deferred to his privacy and said nothing. But, that's just me. I would have chalked its up to a lucky happenstance and let it go at that, that I was in the right place at the right time. ADK-Zeppy
  17. I don't know if Jimmy or perhaps a tech did adjustment on his guitars, but many times pickups are lower to get a clearer tone. Page's neck PAF on his #1 is quite a clear sounding pickup and the bridge pickup was adjusted to get its best tone by itself and to get a certain middle position tone. Gibson was not too “scientific” in pickups assigned to their early Les Paul of the '59 era instruments. Different strengthen magnets were used and the tone results in one guitar may have been quite different in another. This is all conjecture on my part, but certainly Jimmy recognized “something” he heard in that instrument that Joe Walsh delivered to him, and he figured out a tone that he could manipulate to his advantage and do so to the point that we still discuss it 50 years later. Even Paganini could not manage that with a Stradivarius. ADK-Zeppy
  18. It is something of a lost art these days when Rock guitarists use an array of pedals for their tones; not to mention multi channel amps. And, Page's #1 Les Paul had a particular set of pickups that were wound in perhaps a haphazard or not uniform manner, givIng it a not so typical Les Paul tone. There are some Les Pauls that don't lend themselves to the trick of tone sculpting and volume changes in the same manner that Jimmy's did. His #1 and his playing style were made for each other......think of a violin virtuoso and the Stradivarius that was perfect for him and his manner of playing. ADk-Zeppy
  19. Muskee, thanks for posting that one of Jimmy's #1. I am always looking directly at that neck pickup each time I see a shot of his Les Paul. In his hands that'58 or '59 is just a magical tone and it was a combination of the right guitar and pickups and their windings together with his manner of selecting chords that made that Zeppelin guitar sound and attitude. I never get tired of listening to and watching him play it. I don't know if he personally set the heights on this guitar, or if he had a guitar tech mess will all of that. It is a very personal type of “housekeeping” with a lot of guitarists. ADK-Zeppy
  20. Pretty interesting re: adding milk last to brewed tea by the pot compared to tea bag variety. I tried both ways with the loose leaf that I brew every morning. I can not determine the difference, by the way. My “theory” is that in prior days in Britain, fresh milk may Not have been easy to chill or keep that way, so milk added first may not have clotted as much when the hot tea was poured into it., whereas the opposite would not appear as appetizing in the cup. No? For the past 25 years or so, I have ordered loose leaf tea from The Republic of Tea, first by mail order and now online. One variety I cherish and a bit more pricey is Keemun from Anhui Provence in China. Small dried leaves...sweet and smooth, with a touch of smoke and chocolate and with a bit of milk and sugar can be a great start to the day. The other I use is “All Day Breakfast Tea; which is a blend of Keemun and silver tipped Oolong leaves, also really great. I don't mind spending for the additional cost and shipping, as it really is one of life's enjoyable moments. I don't order Keemun too often, but last order was in part paid for by the “points” I accumulated and was about to lose. ADK-Zeppy
  21. Love this post!! being from Massachusetts where we threw your King's tea (by the case) into Boston Harbor because of His Majesty's tax increase, I have developed a love for imported Teas. At least two cups each morning and it helps me make my ancestors' ancient connection to Hampshire over where you enjoy your tea, daily. My question is: Is it true that arguments can get carried away over there as whether it's “Milk in first”? ADK-Zeppelin
  22. On the Led Zeppelin albums and stage performances, I don't think Page was using all that much gain as compared to what I hear in the 2007 O2 performance. In the later one, you can hear the gain rumbling in his amp(s) even when playing softly, and in the Zeppelin, his tone was mainly derived from sheer volume......and it's that era that I think Jimmy deserves a heap of credit in the amount of control that he demonstrated in how he could handle an amp on the verge of it blowing up; not withstanding the amount of tones that he summoned forth from them. Hendrix was another one and both players were amongst the few at the time that could play at extreme volume and still sound great. ADK-Zeppy
  23. Yes, to the previous post. The one with probably the most structured musical knowledge was John Paul Jones whom Page had worked with in recording sessions. Jimmy may have recognized Jones' talents back then. The main asset that JPJ had in Zeppelin was his ability to take the sounds he heard from his band mates and come up with an “arrangement”. The reason that I state this is that many of Zeppelin's songs almost have a “Classical” feel to them which upon repeated listenings do take on a really symphonic feel. Just as a well-rehearsed symphony orchestra would do, Zeppelin used the “light and shade” approach to their lengthy hits songs. Page, himself, described his work into that phrase. ADK-Zeppy
  24. Are Page and Plant performing from memory here, or was there some prior rehearsal for this performance? ADK-Zeppy
  25. I'm thinking that the radio broadcast may have been in stereo. No? Ican remember have a few long play 1960 era recordings that were done in monaural and converted late to a sort of “faux” stereo which to me sounded just horrible. ADK-Zeppy
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