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Hi everyone, it’s my pleasure to share the Dogs of Doom’s latest Liberation Series, #16, Listen To This Charley…
Denver, June 21st, 1972 audience recording.We now have one more hour of one of music from one of Zeppelin’s greatest tours ever. Thank you to John Bowes for taping and sharing, and publicenemy3 for transferring. Let it be noted, this is not the fabled recording hoarded by our dear friend Charley (doesn’t exist), this is a totally unique unknown source. Enjoy everyone!
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14 hours ago, ledzepfilm said:
Unfortunately, we don’t know! We got possession of the negatives. There are 219 pictures in the set (posted at a local Hotel).
It’s worth clarifying that not all photos in the set are from the show. Lots of pre show stuff of the crowd and photographer/his friends. Really cool stuff.
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8 minutes ago, zeplz71 said:
Not understanding -- is this some kind of 'hoarding' talk? Anyway, found this on google.
Interesting. I've never seen any images like this on google. How far did you have to search to find it?
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For UK 72, both Newcastle and both Glasgow shows are fantastic. Brighton is arguably Plant's best night of the tour, I wish we had the rest of it. Both London nights are hot, the first is much better for P lant but he's fine at the second night and the band is amazing. The only show from the tour I'd call subpar is Brighton, where Plant is plain miserable. Jonesy does play the Rain Song on the organ though, so that's fun. The first night in Manchester as well as new Cardiff auds are grails for me.
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On 3/1/2021 at 2:49 AM, Strider said:
What were the seat locations for each of the three sources?
Either that was a bad patch job or Robert really bollocksed up "Going to California". I've never heard him butcher it that bad before.
Rob fucks up just about every Going to California on this tour lol. There might be one or two where he sings it properly.
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1 hour ago, Sticks of Fire said:
Great to see new stuff surfacing lately! Where does this stuff come from!?
Someone's out there finding this stuff and getting it out there. Kudos to those people, it's something we should all strive for.
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The channel you linked has all three MSG 73 shows uploaded, and they're all basically the show's best versions imho.
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19 hours ago, Nutrocker said:
I admit this new Detroit '73 tape was a far more enjoyable listen than that chopped up, distorted mess of a Louisville '77 alt source...😄
yeah the Louisville alt source wasn't everything it could've been. The acoustic set sounds amazing, it fills the gap in Achilles, and the pre show announcements are cool to have, but the rest is a big mess.
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I think the overall best version is the final one from the Spring '70 US tour, 4/17/70 in Memphis Tennessee. If I recall correctly, it's the longest version of the song sitting at around 30ish minutes. The medley is explosive despite the band having tons of trouble with the crowd and the police threatening to arrest Peter Grant. a Raunchy, wild show to the very end.
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On 10/21/2020 at 11:22 AM, gibsonfan159 said:
I couldn't put 29th above the 28th and 23rd. I honestly think it's a bit overrated. I think the 29th has the same stigma Blueberry Hill has- it's popularity combined with the set list puts it in everyone's favorite list. Although pound for pound, it's not a heavy hitter. In my opinion anyway.
Generally speaking I agree. The 29th has the best Dazed of the tour and an amazing acoustic set, but Plant being in less than ideal shape (honestly his weakest '71 show spare 4/1) is a big no no for me. Friends and Thank You are proof of that for me. I will concede that the band is probably in the best shape that night, especially Jimmy and Bonzo, but the 28th and 23rd are probably only so closely behind that Plant makes or breaks it for me.
Personally, I think the ranking goes like this:
1. 28th
2. 23rd
3. 24th
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Led Zeppelin
Freedom Hall
Louisville, KY
April 25, 1977
Rick Coate Master Tapes via JEMSrecording gear: unknown
JEMS 2020 Transfer: Scotch C-120 normal bias cassettes > Nakamichi RX-505 (azimuth adjustment) > Sound Devices USBPre 2 > Audacity 2.0 24/96 capture > wav@24/96 > Adobe Audition (tracking, downsampling, deleting blank tape) > wav@16/44 > TLH > flac@16/44
01 Intro
02 The Song Remains The Same
03 The Rover > Sick Again
04 Nobody's Fault But Mine
05 In My Time of Dying
06 Since I've Been Loving You
07 No Quarter
08 Ten Years Gone
09 The Battle Of Evermore
10 Going To California
11 Black Country Woman/Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
12 Kashmir
13 Out On The Tiles > Moby Dick
14 Noise Solo
15 Achilles Last Stand
16 Stairway to Heaven
17 Rock and RollKnown Faults:
-The Song Remains The Same: numerous cuts
-Sick Again: numerous cuts
-No Quarter: cuts off
-The Battle of Evermore: cuts off
-Going To California: cuts in
-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp: cuts off
-White Summer/Black Mountain Side: missing
-Kashmir: cuts in
-Over The Top: cut insideJEMS Notes: JEMS was honored to be asked to transfer this newly discovered second source for Led Zeppelin's April 25, 1977 concert in Louisville, KY.
The 1977 tour seems to be the one where inexperienced tapers made one-off attempts to record shows. This new Louisville source fits the profile: low quality, 120-minute tape; recording a lot of the pre-show; audience chatter; many cut songs and issues throughout; distortion and signal overload due to low-end recorders.
The Louisville taper hit a lot of snags, specifically calling out "The Song Remains The Same" and "Sick Again" as having "technical problems during recording" in the handwritten notes in the cassette j-card. Unfortunately, the issues are more wide ranging, with several missing chunks and dropouts, along with heavy distortion on louder material.
That being said the acoustic set sounds especially good and close, and the distortion can be tuned out on some of the mid-volume material. The louder songs are more challenging. Still, a new Led Zeppelin tape is a new Led Zeppelin tape.
I have never played a tape that needed such a radical adjustment in playback azimuth, which further supports the assumption that the taper was using a low-end portable deck and was likely experiencing tape alignment issues on the night. The azimuth correction moved the recording from useless to listenable despite the aforementioned issues.
I did spend some time seeing if any restoration tools could help tame the distortion, but the results were never good enough to warrant the effort. Maybe someone else can attempt that.
Given the level of detail in the handwritten notes and the fact that these are 120 minute tapes (which almost no one would use to copy a show onto), these are very likely the master tapes. The hand-labeling dates sometime after Bonham's death, as the notes dedicate the recording to the late drummer.
Thanks to Glyn, June72/Vinnie, Ed, ledzepfilm, TAFCIA, Bert13, and Sticks of Fire from The Dogs of Doom for funding the liberation of this tape!
New tape everyone. direct link can't be posted here, but it's up on dime and RO. Enjoy
Edit: the tape isn't sourced from the master, but a first gen cassette.
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Excellent nitpick as always. This one actually prompted me to watch the performance in full for the first time, and it really wasn't that bad. Other than some bad articulation here and there for Page, his playing is fairly solid and just dragged down by that awful phaser effect. Plant's hoarseness isn't pretty, but he still sounds better than just about any given show from 73 to 75. Also his stepping on Page's solo is quite ugly. Although it's clearly not just him, I'd say a majority of the more unsavory moments do come from Phil. he doesn't seem drunk or out of it, he just straight up doesn't know the songs. I mean, if I were about to go on stage in front of a sold out JFK stadium and there was another guy who actually knew how to play the songs, I'd say fuck it, sit it out and let the guy who knows how to play, play lmao.
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On 5/27/2020 at 3:26 AM, Nutrocker said:
The taper of the Atlanta '77 actually posted in over at You Tube where the recording has been uploaded and basically said, "Yeah, I had the recorder on the floor, I was sixteen, young, dumb and high, whaddya want?"😆
hey man I don't blame him. It's like the whole campaign against cell phones at concerts, you're supposed to enjoy the show while your there, not on a tiny screen 3 months later. At the very least, we have a tape from the show and we should be grateful for that.
Thanks for all the info on this you've been digging up, much appreciated
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19 hours ago, SteveZ98 said:
Thanks. It is the North Bridge remaster. I've done all of the '77 soundboards, I'm just not happy with most of them so I haven't released them. The only other things from that tour I released are the Seattle video with remastered sound and the May 21st soundboard audio. If you're interested, I can send you links for them.
Any chance I could get a link to that 5/21 remaster? Thanks
Philadelphia 3/31/70 - New Photoset
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The Dogs of Doom are happy to share a new photoset from Philly 1970. Credit to the photographer, Jean Tomaselli Stahl, for generously sharing her shots. Please credit her if you share these.
https://imgur.com/a/pSMRILZ