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  1. I always feel this way. When Zep had long tour years, they would morph the set and phase out some by adding others. I feel '77 and '80 tours would have went this way, if not for Karac & Bonham's passing. I bet this is a strong reason why the last 3 studio albums had such little concert play. I bet there was plans to play more new stuff. I wish fans got to interview the band today, and ask questions that actually matter to us.
  2. Correct! I think it's after a short That's Alright Mama bit. Might be 26-6-77, but still the LA shows.
  3. Thanks, I thought we had all lost it for a sec there. I couldn't handle this getting scrubbed too!
  4. What happened to Black Beauty? I'm glad I literally just finished downloading the concerts I needed from the site, because it looks like the site is down. It does look like this has happened before. Should I be worried? Is it coming back? It was such a solid, well organized site. It would be a serious shame if it has been taken down permanently.
  5. I know this isn't helpful, but this is one of the things that has always drawn me to Zep; Robert's lyrics and that I can't always understand them. I treat his vocals like another key instrument in the band rather than words. So good. Nobody's got a voice like his.
  6. Ugggh, what a nube I am. I swear I actually did know that, about the set lists, I just screwed it up. But thanks for the Copenhagen tip. I would have otherwise thought those shows would have been a bit rough as I think they were "warm ups" work Knebworth. I will have to look into those as well. Thanks again! Off to complete my 1977 revisit. A woman on this forum (who I can't find now to save the life of me to thank her) recommended a Best of 1977 soundboards set lists. Great recommendations. I'll be replacing some of my Destroyer heavy songs now.
  7. I actually skipped the 1979 concerts as the only new song they had was All My Love, which was in the 1980 concerts along with a few more. This is looking to be a foolish move, so I'll check out this Copenhagen concert for sure. This little project of mine has certainly taken on a life of its own. It'll probably be a while until I'm done, but it's been such a cool adventure along the way especially now with all these kinds of suggestions.
  8. I'm going to have to check these out again. I definitely like the cool melody versions of a lot of their songs. Zep had so much talent, it's not even funny. I do think I have the HTWWW Dazed n Confused in my list, such a good concert in both sound and performance!
  9. The only reason I haven't included any of the DVD material is because I don't know how to get it into mp3 form. I'm a technology have-not, haha. I'm surprised I could make a profile on this forum and start making posts. The work Jimmy went into creating the 2003 dvd in terms of sound (and video) was quite an undertaking. So I'd love to have these on mp3. Any suggestions? ...and yes, I do "remember...forests"
  10. Yes, once you get to a minimum level of Zeppelin fandom, Best Of becomes a personal preference for sure. While I wanted to keep the subject title concise (and admittedly enticing Members to chime in) I was actually hesitant to call this thread that. There's no way (so far?) this "concert" set list is a best of. I do think it's off to a good start, but there's a lot more research to be done for sure. Even If someone (perhaps a member of the band) could be wise enough to solve this riddle, it would be very hard to determine the best version of each song, due to personal preference. I have the ability to see my downfalls. So I've actually been enjoying the roasting I've gotten so far for Destroyer, haha. I knew my time was gonna come; ok sorry, that was really cheezy. I was glad to get some song variations recommended as a result. I would like some more, so please keep 'em coming people! I do plan on editing this when I'm all done, with all your inputs. It will likely be a more final version with my three "acts" idea rolled out as well. Cheers
  11. I did actually try Berkley '71 Going to California, specifically; also Heartbreaker and SIBLY. Someone had recommended all three of them as being particularly good. Yet I turned them all down. Maybe the sound quality of mine wasn't good enough. I'll have to give it another go.
  12. Very much agree with WLL from this show. It's much different (heavier maybe?) than every previous tour of it. We Page laying down the tracks to starting the hard rock/heavy metal era to come? Maybe.
  13. This is good stuff, thanks! I knew there would be superior stuff, but there's so much material. It's not only time intensive to go through, but also get familiar with enough to determine what's best. I love how no one seems to like the last show. I'm not even being nostalgic for it, I just like it for some reason. Maybe because the quality is good, I dunno...and I did throw in my warning, there is a lot of Destroyer for sure. Problem is, it was really the first boot I got, like 20 years ago. so I'm too familiar with it, and have too many fond car trip memories I suppose. But I'm definitely going to look into these and the recommendation's by the others.
  14. I’m open to feedback on this project of mine. The foundation of it is shown below, however, I still have some work to do on it and nothing is cemented in yet. So I’d like some feedback from the wizards of this site. What started as a curios “Do I have all of their live songs?”, has turned into a quest to create a best of, massive Led Zeppelin “concert” of each of their live performed songs. For now, I’ve listed my cut of their best live performances in alpha order below. I’d like to thanks Bonzo_fan (Ranking the 1977 Shows, and 1975 shows, and...), Michael Fry (50th Anniversary Box Set), and also everyone who chimed in on their posts. I’ve dug into a lot of concerts and songs you all have specifically mentions as being good. They’ve influenced this best of compilation. Ok, I “ramble on” a lot, so feel free to skip these next paragraphs and just go straight to the songs. I was surprised by a few findings. One, I first appeared to be missing roughly 30 live songs in my CD catalogue, between the official releases and my few boots. Two, most of their latter 3 albums were never performed; oh the humanity!! (sorry for that, but it is a musical tragedy) Three, some songs were only ever done once. And four, a handful of songs were only done for ~5ish gigs (Levee, Wonton, etc) or were only ever partially played (Crunge, Rover, etc). In the end I was only missing 14 live performances from my collection. We truly are in a great digital era, where nearly every Zep concert is searchable on line. I was quite shocked to be honest. I mean, in 1968, why would someone record a fan based or soundboard based Zeppelin concert? You wouldn’t know these guys were going to pan out. And it’s not like it would have been easy either. Technology was so big and clunky, I mean how did you even do it discretely? Regardless, I’m thankful. My search also dug up a lot of non-Zep songs they only performed live. I assume they were all covers, but maybe some were Zeppelin revitalized songs, like most of the first album. Who knows? But like any legit fan, I collected those along the way. I’m sure I didn’t get them all, but I picked up over 20 songs, which I intend on including in this “concert”. I think I like the historical accuracy by including them; because it’s something they did do a lot live. Not to mention it makes my “concert” longer. Who doesn’t want an epically long Zeppelin concert? Well, maybe not the fans at Knebworth (who apparently waited outdoors for a very long time to see all the concerts), but definitely the rest of us. They will also increase the song variety, as I couldn’t tear myself away from including multiple versions of some of my fav songs. How does one decide that TSRTS Stairway is much better than Destroyer’s Stairway, or Eddie Listen Stairway? I couldn’t do it, so they’ll all make the cut, as they differ so much. The same will go for various versions of SIBLY, WLL, CB, HMMT, and Heartbreaker for sure. So these ~20 cover tunes will keep the variety going. Including some of the different versions noted above, this “concert” is going to be big. It’s verging on over 90 songs and will be well over 5 hours long. So I'm going to organize it into three "acts". They won't necessarily be in chronological order, but Act 1 will have more earlier material with Act 3 being a bit later. Each act will sort of start like each of their concerts (if I can) with 1,2,3, punches, have ~2 encores, and be filled with one of the multiple versions (STH, WLL, SIBLY, etc. ) I couldn't bear to cut. And like I said, to prevent them from getting too repetitive, each Act will be filled in with those ~20 cover songs. I'm hoping it’ll result in a great listen with a lot of rockin ups and some bluesy downs! After reviewing a lot of boots, I appear to be drawn to sound quality first, then the best version. As a result, a lot of the performances below are from the official releases: BBC Sessions, HTWWW, TSRTS, and Celebration Day. Familiarity has skewed me as well, so a lot of performances from 1977s Destroyer have made the cut. I’m not incl practices as they’ve never sounded that great to me, such as Night Flight (which sucks as I was really looking fwd to finding that one live). I really want this full, best of “Concert” to be a charge to listen to, from start to end. (note, proper concert dates are referenced below) Achilles Last Stand – Destroyer All My Love – Last Concert As Long As I Have You (extra) – Fillmore West Apr ‘69. Why did this song not get put to the studio? A serious treat of a find. Not in their top 25 or anything, but a great mid range song Babe I'm Gonna Leave You – Whisky A Go Go Black Country Woman – Destroyer Black Dog – HTWWW CD Blueberry Hill (extra) – Live On Blueberry Hill Bring It On Home – HTWWW CD Bron-Y-Aur Stomp – Destroyer Bron-Yr-Aur – Live On Blueberry Hill Celebration Day – TSRTS CD (original) C’mon Everybody (extra) – 1970, possibly Jan 9. I lost track of the source of some songs Communication Breakdown – BBC Sessions CD, Live On Blueberry Hill and Earls Court Dancing Days – HTWWW CD Dazed and Confused – HTWWW CD and TSRTS CD (original) For Your Life – O2 Arena For Your Love (extra) – Fillmore West Jan ‘69 Four Sticks – Copenhagen 1971 Friends – Osaka 1971 Gallows Pole – Copenhagen 1971 Going to California – Destroyer Good Times Bad Times – O2 Arena, I love the very opening riff more than any other. Heartbreaker – HTWWW CD, – TSRTS CD (2007), Earls Court and Osaka 1971 Hot Dog – Last Concert How Many More Times – BBC Sessions CD, Texas Pop Festival I Can't Quit You Baby – Texas Pop Festival I Gotta Move (extra) – Stockholm March 14, 1969 Immigrant Song – HTWWW CD I’m Talking About You (extra) – New York, evening 1970 In My Time of Dying – Snow Job In the Evening – Last Concert It’ll Be Me (extra) – Inglewood June 26, 1977 Kashmir – Destroyer, Snow Job Long Tall Sally (extra) – London Jan 9, 1970 Louie Louie (extra) – HTWWW bootleg LA June 25, 1972 Misty Mountain Hop – TSRTS CD (2007) Moby Dick – HTWWW CD, TSRTS CD (original) Mystery Train (extra) – San Diego June 19, 1977 Nobody's Fault but Mine – Destroyer No Quarter – Earls Court, Destroyer Organ Solo (extra) – Live On Blueberry Hill Out on the Tiles – Live On Blueberry Hill Over the Hills and Far Away – Snow Job Over The Top (extra) – Destroyer – Starts with Out On The Tiles intro Pat’s Delight (extra) – Fillmore West Apr ‘69 Please Please Me/From Me To You (extra) – Osaka September 28, 1971 Ramble On – O2 Arena. Did Zep played this in the 70s? Page & Plant in the ‘90s yes, but Zep? Not that I could find. Rock and Roll – Destroyer Sick Again – Snow Job Since I've Been Loving You – Live On Blueberry Hill, TSRTS CD (2007) and their Last Concert Sitting And Thinking (extra) – Fillmore West Apr ‘69 Something Else (extra..kinda) – BBC Sessions CD Stairway to Heaven – TSRTS CD (original), Destroyer, Eddie Listen LA June 23, 1977 and Last Concert Tangerine – Earls Court Ten Years Gone – Destroyer Thank You – BBC Sessions CD That’s Alright Mama (extra) – LA June 26, 1977 That's the Way – HTWWW CD The Battle of Evermore – Destroyer The Crunge – No idea where I got this performance. Someone separated this out from a WLL combo. But quite a bit of the song is here, the most I’ve seen, with a lot of vocals too. The Girl Can’t Help It (extra) – New York, evening 1970 The Girl She Got Long Brown Wavy Hair (extra..kinda) – BBC Sessions CD The Lemon Song/Killing Floor – Fillmore West Apr ‘69 and Whisky A Go Go The Ocean – HTWWW CD The Rain Song – TSRTS CD (original) – The way this version blends right after the actual song TSRTS is like nothing else. If this happened on other concerts, I would consider other versions. But until then, this version is too good they way they work together. The Song Remains the Same – TSRTS CD (original) – See the Rain Song comments The Train Kept A Rollin’ (extra) – Texas Pop Festival – One of the more clear recordings I could find. I’ve decided this song always sounds muzzled. I’m convinced no band can make it sound crisp. At Texas Pop, it’s not bad, but otherwise this song (even when sung by Aerosmith) just sucks. Was this ever good in a live concert?..when you would hear it as clear as possible? Who knows. The Wanton Song – Chicago January 20, 1975. Trampled Under Foot – Destroyer, Earls Court. Travelling Riverside Blues (extra..kinda) – BBC Sessions CD Twenty Flight Rock (extra) – New York, evening 1970 We’re Gonna Groove – 1970, possibly Jan 9 We Shall Over Come (extra) – Osaka September 28, 1971 What Is and What Should Never Be – BBC Sessions CD When the Levee Breaks – Chicago January 20, 1975 White Summer/Black Mountain Side – Last Concert Whole Lotta Love – TSRTS CD (original), Live on Blueberry Hill, Last Concert, and Osaka which is the only exception to my quality first rule. Fun version, but the quality stinks. Oddly enough the melodies are in much better quality than the main song itself…I might try dissecting just the melodies and sticking them in somewhere in my “concert” as I have too many WLLs in here as it is. You Shook Me – Fillmore West Jan ‘69 So that’s my list. I am in the midst of cross referencing these songs vs 1973 Providence and 1977 Listen to this Eddie as they have good sound quality and are great concerts. But if you have any suggestions for better versions, I’m all ears. Reference Concerts (not incl official releases) Whisky A Go Go, LA Jan 5, 1969 Fillmore West San Francisco January 10, 1969 Fillmore West San Francisco April 27, 1969 Texas Pop Festival, Dallas August 31, 1969 Live On Blueberry Hill, Inglewood, September 4, 1970 New York, evening show of September 19, 1970 Copenhagen May 3, 1971 Osaka September 29, 1971 Earls Court 1975 Snow Job, Vancouver March 19, 1975 Destroyer, Cleveland April 27, 1977 Last Concert, Berlin July 7, 1980 O2 Arena, December 10, 2007 As best I can tell, these songs were never performed live by Led Zeppelin. I’m kinda hoping someone will show me a rare performance. Boogie with Stu Candy Store Rock Carouselambra Custard Pie Down by the Seaside D'yer Mak'er Fool in the Rain Hats Off to (Roy) Harper Houses of the Holy Hots On for Nowhere I'm Gonna Crawl In the Light Living Loving Maid Night Flight Royal Orleans South Bound Saurez Tea for One The Rover Your Time Is Gonna Come Songs noted as (extra) are not on any studio albums…kinda. It’s hard to classify some songs. Travelling Riverside Blues? Was it really live? Kinda. Was it on any studio albums? Kinda. Honestly, I nearly cut this one. But I like it, so I included it. I’ve concluded long ago that you cannot really classify Led Zeppelin. They were too creative. They don’t fit into any one box, and a song like Riverside is an example of that. Got any favorite versions of their live performances? That are also of good quality? I’d love to hear of them.
  15. Cool, great to hear I'm not totally in left field on this. Like most of us, I'm fanatical about Zep. So I've read a lot, listened even more. Nice to see my hunches of these things aren't off the mark.
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