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First I heard/taped: BBC sessions from '69 and '71 from a radio station. Still have that tape.
First (of many) I bought: Coming Back On The Murder Stage - 4/27/77 in Cleveland.
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Blaster, I could be wrong but that swatch could be correlated to the flame on the lit match. The frame on the left does not have a lit match, so I believe we are to think it was just before the match was struck.
Thorgerson's Web site is fantastic, Aspensound. It'd been quite a while since I looked at it, thanks for the refresher. I missed him speaking in Chicago a few years ago and was very disappointed.
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Also, Best Buy does sell non-USB turntables as well. The selection, obviously, is very limited.
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Photo from this gig is in Dave Lewis' The Concert File. However, setlist info is minimal and no recording is known to exist.
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Not to get into a lengthy discussion about Canadien journalist Ritchie Yorke but he did
interview Jimmy at Olympic Studios in Barnes, London in May 1972 during the sessions
for 'Houses of the Holy'. He was writing for 'Rainbow' magazine at the time and their
interview was published in 'Rainbow' magazine's May 29, 1972 issue. My point is he
had sufficient means and support to travel outside of Toronto in pursuit of a story,
particularly if it was Led Zeppelin.
I believe Ritchie has returned to his native Australia http://www.ritchieyorke.com/index.php?node...&pagesid=72. And yes, he has traveled extensively with the band and was widely considered one of the first mainstream rock writers to "get" what Led Zeppelin was attempting musically.
My point, though, was more that he was not a bass player and wouldn't have had the band's confidence to join them on stage. I believe deluxe caught the error in his misreading of the poor parenthetical quoting which Yorke wrote in that Phil Carson quote. The parentheses inside the quote marks were Carson's words, while those outside the quotes were Yorke's.
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Another note on Phil Carson - He did serve as creator and exec producer for 2001's Good Rockin' Tonight: The Legacy of Sun Records disc, which featured Page/Plant and was released on Atlantic. However, at that point, a story from the Boston Globe also says that Carson was still an executive for JVC's Victory Records.
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~presley/elnews177.htm
(scroll down to the story "Sun tribute CD makes legendary founder beam" by Steve Morse, Oct. 27, 2001)
And a quick bio from Chris Welch's 2003 book "Closer to the Edge: The Story of Yes"
PHIL CARSON. The former close ally of Yes and UK boss of Atlantic Records and Victory Records now lives in Palm Springs, California. He is president of the music division of The Shooting Gallery film company based in Los Angeles. His son Jack Carson runs their artist managament company whose clients include drummer Jason Bonham. Phil Carson was executive producer of the Sam Phillips tribute album Good Rockin' Tonight: The Legacy of Sun Records (London-Sire), released in 2001 and featuring among others Bob Dylan, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Jimmy Page and Robert Plant. The documentary film Good Rockin TOnight was screened on US TV in 2001. -
Here's plenty of confirmation, Steve
The press release for the second album from Bowie's Tin Machine:
http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/presso.htm
31st July 1991 - For Immediate ReleaseTin Machine Belong In Rock & Roll
Poole Edwards
True to their word TIN MACHINE are back with a serious rock and roll album, a new label and an Autumn tour. The album - which was mainly recorded in Sydney, Australia, in late '89 and was produced by TIN MACHINE and mixed by Tim Palmer and TIN MACHINE - is due for release on September 2nd.
The album, the title of which is TIN MACHINE II, will be the first on a major new label launched by Japanese electronic giants JVC, called Victory Music. Victory Music, which is headed by former top executive at Atlantic Records, Phil Carson, will be distributed in the UK and the rest of the world, excluding the USA, by London Records, and in the USA by Polygram Records.
The first single to be released from TIN MACHINE II will be YOU BELONG IN ROCK & ROLL, which will be issued on August 12th.
He also was managing Motorhead in 1991 for their album "1916"
http://www.mf-b.ru/disks/md-1916-eng.php
And Yes for their 1991 tour:
http://www.forgottenyesterdays.com/graphic...r=2&gid=759
Also, Phil worked with Jason Bonham in 1996:
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Didn't know it was wrong info. After Steve's post I checked Ritchie Yorke's book, 'The Led Zeppelin Biography,' and realized he was the one who got up in Japan.(p.67) not Carson.
Also, I can not find this information you quoted on p. 67 of my copy of Yorke's "Led Zeppelin: The Definitive Biography" -- which is Chapter 3: The Launching of Led Zeppelin -- and no mention in the section covering the Japanese tour. Cole's book says Phil Carson was who joined them on bass, which makes more sense as Carson had played bass for Dusty Springfield and Ritchie Yorke was a Canadian journalist for the Toronto Globe & Mail.
Dave Lewis' The Concert File also lists it as being Phil Carson on bass, not Yorke. Lewis quoting Carson:
"We had a good relationship and I got to jam with them on stage quite a lot. John Paul Jones would play keyboards, I would be on bass guitar and we would sail through seven or eight old rock songs. It was great. ... They did lean toward things I would be most comfortable with! Eddie Cochran songs were very high uop on my list for playing. Normally we played 'C'Mon Everybody' and old Elvis things like 'Blue Suede Shoes' and Johnny Kidd & the Pirates' "Shaking All Over.' It was great fun."
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Can you give me a reason why you are questioning me for that?
Just wanted to make sure SteveAJones' misinformation about Phil Carson's current whereabouts is not perpetuated into assumed fact here, as many assume his posts as 100 percent accurate 100 percent of the time. As Nine Lives posted, this is what Phil's been up to the last 15-20 years:
http://forums.ledzeppelin.com//index.php?s...308&st=280#
Phil Carson hasn't worked for Atlantic Records for quite some time.Press release for American Masters (2007) - "Atlantic Records: The House That Ahmet Built"
Production Bios
AMERICAN MASTERS Atlantic Records: The House That Ahmet Built
PHIL CARSON
Music Executive
In a career that has spanned four decades, Phil Carson is firmly established as one of the most influential forces in rock music. After a successful career as a recording and touring musician, he was appointed senior vice president at Atlantic Records and was a major contributor at the label in the development of its trio of English mega bands: Led Zeppelin, Yes and Emerson, Lake & Palmer. He signed such multi-platinum artists as AC/DC, Twisted Sister, Gary Numan and Abba to Atlantic, brought Phil Collins to Warner Music Group, America to Warner Brothers, and co-produced the multi-platinum Honeydrippers CD with Robert Plant and Ahmet Ertegun. He was also responsible for bringing Virgin Records to the United States by signing a deal with Richard Branson, giving Atlantic distribution rights to the Virgin label for several years. The first release under that agreement was the multi-platinum "Tubular Bells," a groundbreaking piece of music used for the soundtrack of The Exorcist.
As president of the music division of JVC, he developed the classic rock-oriented Victory Music label. He earned a Grammy nomination for the acclaimed Muddy Water Blues album from Paul Rodgers and scored chart positions with new albums by David Bowie, Yes and Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
He is the president of Phil Carson Associates, a management and music company whose client list has included Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Paul Rodgers, Yes, Motorhead, Asia, Foreigner, Ben E. King, Bad Company, The Who (for tour sponsorship) Twisted Sister, Jason Bonham, and Ronnie Wood. Recent projects include AMERICAN MASTERS Good Rockin' Tonight: The Legacy of Sun Records, a documentary and soundtrack album that he produced with Ahmet Ertegun. The film premiered on PBS and the Billboard chart soundtrack CD featured newly-recorded tracks from such luminaries as Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Elton John, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Tom Petty, Kid Rock, and Sheryl Crow. He also serves as president of the North American division of DVDplus International, the company that developed the invertible hybrid DVD/CD disc technology known as DualDisc and DVDplus.
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Right. I had mistaken Carson for Richie Yorke getting up on bass in Japan
Any reason you quoted Steve's post with wrong information in it?
FWIW, from Richard Cole in "Stairway To Heaven" about Carson:
"In Osaka, the band asked Phil if he wanted to make one of his occasional appearances on stage playing bass. He was a damn good bass player, and since Led Zeppelin rarely asked anyone to perform with them, Phil was honored at the invitation."He then goes on to regale us of stories about Phil Carson being the butt of practical jokes and then, er, his other attributes. I'll leave it at that.
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Kind of a silly poll. I mean, is anybody going to say Jason? Maybe by virtue of the fact that he is presently alive. But if we're inlcuding past recordings in this, it'll be a shut out.
Well, since Jason told a poster on here that he doesn't visit this site, then I'd say nobody. Of course, I'm pretty sure Jason would say his dad, too.
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Where did you listen to/watch them playing it in the Blueberry Hill Show?
Why from their omnipresent collection of fan-recorded live shows.
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Hey Knebby, you should resurrect the Groupies thread, too! I wish that would have been brought over from the old board -- it's seriously irreplacable...unless it is replaced!
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Before playing it in the Blueberry Hill show in 1970, Plant pronounces it "Brawn-rahr"
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I'm sure there are plenty of Maiden fans and didn't see a thread dedicated to them, so I'll start one.
Here's some cool stuff going on in their world that I stumbled upon. Diehard fans (not one myself) may have heard of this, but it's pretty friggin sweet -- Bruce Dickinson's a pilot and will be your captain on tour:
http://www.ironmaiden.com/index.php?catego...2_articleid=725
Also here:
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hmmmmmm - when i googled the song for the lyrics it had it for both aerosmith & led zeppelin.... i remember something about the led zeppelin version.....i think towards the end, the song fades out but then come back clearly, then its over......
You're thinking of the Zep song Thank You.
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I think Zepp covered Light My Cover once or maybe more than that in one of their medleys.
LMAO! LIGHT MY COVER!!! Sounds like a bootleg title!
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Anyone else bought the first two seasons on DVD? I did - great stuff. I remember staying up real late to watch when I was like 5, 6, 7 watching the end of the original cast and rebirth with Murphy and those guys.
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^ Mmmm, Newcastle.
You know, I've never been in the pub before, hey everyone!
Yeah, me either until three posts ago! And again now! So THIS is where everyone's been hanging out lately!
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Glad to know you're workin'! I'm looking, but no bites. Don't wanna bum anyone out, but this is the pub right? Fuck.
Question is, is it better to not have a job or be stuck in one you absolutely abhor? Herein lies my biggest question. (this is the best emoticon I could find to use with this)
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Guess I shoulda saw this sooner seeing as how my bday was four days ago ... well, five now
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What about Communication Breakdown? "...feel your lovin' touch" (or is it ...lovin' cunt?)
It is lovin' touch.
And for the record, I think he said feck. The difference is the letter U.
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Your Time Is Gonna Come was also played.About the show I think it is better than The Song Remains The Same. Its not that I dont like The Song Remains The Same its that at the Royal Albert all JPJ, Jimmy, Robert, and Bonzo all gave 100% for every song but in he ong emains he ame during Rock n Roll, Celebration Day, The Song Remains The Same, and Over the Hills and Far Away Robert just doesnt give it his all.The improvitation for Dazed and Confused was just dumb in TSRTS it had absoloutely no flow like it did in th Royal Albert Hall.
YTIGC has never been listed on any setlist I've ever seen from the RAH show. Where did you get t his info?
Also, when comarping TSRTS, OTHAFA was only recently released. And D&C was heavily edited, which likely caused what you felt was poor flow.
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