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Tadpole in a Jar

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  1. You really, REALLY ought to hear Johnny Cash's version of this song, from his Sun Records era. It's awesome. Rockabilly energy.
  2. Thank you, sir! Another impact I would say they had is the performers' style became more important than the song itself. The way the Beatles and Stones wrote, and the way songs are still written in Nashville today, is based around the melody and lyrics. The idea is you should be able to perform a song solo, with just a guitar or piano, and it should come across. With Zeppelin the delivery of the song was as important as the content. You can play "Let It Be" alone on a piano or with an orchestra and it's the same song. If you play "Whole Lotta Love" alone on an acoustic, you look foolish. And even if you play it with a band and a Marshall stack, it still won't be the same without Robert Plant on the mic. I could go on...
  3. You've got a lot of questions. I'll take the first one. " LZ, unlike those bands, brought old American blues (e.g. Willie Dixon) into the fray." The Rolling Stones were THE band that popularized blues among teenage white kids in Britain. It's why they took off like a rocket. Their name comes from a Muddy Waters song. According to a current radio interview around the song "Scarlet," Jimmy Page says he first met Mick Jagger and Keith Richards at a blues festival in Manchester well before the Rolling Stones were even formed. The Stones were blues fanatics. Riff based music existed before Led Zeppelin. "Day Tripper" is built on a riff, "Hound Dog" is built on a riff, and it goes even further back. "Lastly, LZ branched into multiple genres like few other bands." The Beatles were the band known for skipping around genres and making it fashionable to do so, around the time they evolved into the Rubber Soul , Revolver and Magical Mystery Tour era. Zep benefited because the Beatles had primed audiences to not expect a dozen versions of the same song on an album. Check out an album by The Who called Live at Leeds, and a documentary about them called The Kids Are Alright, or 50 Years of Maximum R&B. The Who set the template for Led Zeppelin, and John Paul Jones has even said so. Watch their 1968 Woodstock appearance and you'll get it. What Zeppelin had that was different was Robert Plant and John Bonham. Steve Marriott of the Small Faces (check out their song "You Need Love;" you're in for a shock!) and Roger Daltrey of the Who could hit some high notes, but they didn't have the supernatural attack of Robert Plant in his prime. Keith Moon of the Who is a standard bearer of rock drumming, but like Bill Ward he had a loose and jazzy style. No one had heard anything like John Bonham in rock, who was essentially the sound of Buddy Rich in a rock band, with stack amps. I can tell you more, because I am an old person who has not dwelled on much else all my life, but that's for your first question.
  4. But it's not the use of the name "Led Zeppelin" they have a problem with, it's the word "experience." If they're applying "experience" to a Zeppelin project now, people are going to think of Jason's tribute band. They couldn't find a synonym for "experience" to avoid giving Jason a hard time? He's practically their nephew! They seem to have made nothing but perfect decisions from 1968 to now (although not letting Jonesy know about Plant-Page in advance seemed a bit questionable, as well), so I hate to see them mess up a perfect record.
  5. Using that name for anything seems ridiculous now. Jason has been out there for eight years touring under that name. It would only cause confusion. And as Jason said, he already paid to have an expensive backdrop made for his band with "JBLZE" on it so he had to think of how to avoid losing the money he'd put into the banner. I don't think this looks good on Jimmy and whoever else was involved.
  6. Jason says he had to change the name of his tribute band to "Led Zeppelin Evening" at the request of Zeppelin. They're apparently planning to use "Evening" for something later this year (maybe that acoustic guitar and tabla drum reunion ). He's been using "Led Zeppelin Experience" since 2010 and no one had a problem. They couldn't come up with another word? Maybe I'm on my own island, but does anyone else think this seems a bit mean, unnecessary, and not a good PR move?
  7. You're right. He would more likely use tablas. I'm down voting your post the day we have that ability on this forum.
  8. I was watching video of a signing event for his photo book. He didn't actually sign your book, he had a big stamp that said "Zoso" and the date of the event. That makes me think he probably has arthritis, and may have had it for a long time and was doing what he could, while he could. For a long time now he's been saying he was practicing for a solo album and tour that have never materialized. It probably makes him feel good to say and reassures the public, but I have doubts.
  9. Jason would be there. He would play with brushes or congas. If no one's into this, that would be great news for me! Smaller venues, lower ticket prices and plenty of parking!
  10. You have left out Bron-Y-Aur Stomp and Bron-Y-Aur. Please turn in your fan card. (That's a joke.) "Boogie with Stu" could also figure in there. "Ten Years Gone" would work that way. I think Jones and Plant are both passing through Nashville a lot lately, I'd be thrilled to see the two of them just do a few songs together, maybe sit in at each other's shows.. That's something we've never seen.
  11. The whole thing was 37 years ago. They have an album called Led Zeppelin III everyone should check into. Almost the entire second side is acoustic. I think Page would be willing to busk on sidewalks if Robert wanted to do it, just to experience playing with his baby again. They played acoustically at pretty much every concert after III with Jones and they didn't have to go electric. You mean if you heard you could see the three of them and Jason (you don't have to slam drums to play them; he could adjust), if you heard it would be acoustic guitars and mandolins, you wouldn't go?
  12. I was watching videos of John Paul Jones playing mandolin with the Dave Rawlings Machine and Robert singing with Patti Griffin and thought, "Okay, so Robert can't sing loud and hard like he did in 1970. But how about an acoustic reunion? I would be there!" The Earl's Court acoustic set was the best part of the DVD, in my opinion. The only pitfall I can imagine is the audience being rowdy and restless. They would have to play arenas and acoustic music doesn't travel so well in there. But whatever, it would be a compromise that could work for everyone.
  13. Any book I've ever picked up has just repeated what I read in Hammer of the Gods years ago. The Celebration books and a few others have been the best supplements I've seen, but for a normal book-book Hammer and Richard Cole's book take care of me.
  14. With either Marriott or Reid it would've been more of a straight-ahead blues-rock band in the vein of Humble Pie. If you go to Amazon you'll see Terry Reid was quite prolific but he didn't have any huge sellers, I don't think. I saw one of his discs at the used CD store the other day and thought about getting it. Maybe I should.
  15. With him being "Led Wallet" I was always under the impression he didn't have that many, and those that he does have were sometimes gifts or pawn shop guitars. Les Paul Custom - this one his dad helped buy after he traded in his Grazzioso Strat. Telecaster - The one from Led Zeppelin I, which I think Jeff Beck gave him. Les Paul #1 - The famous one! Les Paul #2 - Another sunburst, bought in the mid-70's. Les Paul #3 - the burgundy red one, also a Jeff Beck gift. Danelectro - Actually formed from the best parts of two bought at pawn shops. Botswana brown Firm Telecaster -- Composed from two or three different Teles. Pensa-Schur "Outrider" Strat -- In the "Wasting My Time" video Sea blue Stratocaster -- from "In the Evening" and "For Your Life." PRS - another "Outrider" guitar Retuner Les Paul - From the Plant/Page MTV special Martin acoustic Harmony acoustic - Used on Led Zeppelin I Doubleneck Gibson - "Stairway to Heaven" guitar That's 14. Not really that many for a superstar.
  16. I love Hammer of the Gods! When I was 19 that book and The Song Remains the Same was pretty much the only peephole we had into the world of Led Zeppelin (I'm 37 now). I've got a worn-out paperback copy and also a really nice library edition that I bought second hand. Got Richard Cole's book in paperback and hardback, too, and met him in person once. Anyhow...yes, great book. The Celebration books are also great.
  17. In a AC/DC biography I thumbed through at the store someone claimed AC/DC was going to be on the bill at Knebworth, but Robert didn't want them. "Too derivative," he said. Actually by that point...Bon and Angus probably would've given Zep a great run for their money!
  18. Whoops! I might've had the wrong Prunes! It must've been the Electric Prunes. Off topic, there's a documentary on Janis Joplin out there called Janis that we used to rent all the time in the late `80's. If you want to see the epitome of a kickass front person who knew how to get a crowd in the palm of her hand, check that out. I've only ever seen it on VHS but I'm sure it must be on DVD by now.
  19. Robert said Bonham would tell the Sabbath guys, before they all made it big, "You guys just really are shit!" I read somewhere else where Robert said Led Zeppelin had played at a festival with the Doors and he said something to the effect of, "(Jim Morrison) just said, 'Fuck y'all,' and the whole audience went, 'We love you!' I thought, For what?" Robert was a big fan of all the San Francisco bands and has mentioned Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead and the Virgin Prunes as favorites, and also dropped a line from a Albert King quote via Blue Cheer into "HMMT." He also liked Love and their leader, Arthur Lee, a lot. He's also mentioned Janis Joplin before who seems to have been his primary (unacknowledged) influence. Jim went on-record saying he thought Jefferson Airplane stunk. Jimmy was a fan of Little Feat. He and Robert both liked bands called Pentangle, Rennaisance and the Incredible String Band, which were all English folk bands. They all liked Elvis and James Brown. In the late `70's/early `80's they mentioned liking Heart, Rush and Jimmy liked ZZ Top. Robert was a R.E.M. and Cure fan later on.
  20. You must not have seen the Live Without a Net solo, then! Especially check out the part where he elaborates on the "Mean Street" opening. Don't get me wrong, and I think you may have, Led Zeppelin is far and away my favorite band, there's no comparing them to anyone else, but pure guitar-playing wise...Eddie's the greatest.
  21. Not really. Just because it isn't used anymore by today's crappy bands doesn't mean it wasn't an innovation. The steam engine was still an innovation even if we moved to other kinds of power. Aw, c'mon the "Secrets" solo is really melodic. Most of them are, even if some of the same "tricks" are employed in each one. As I say, you gotta check out his earliest years. It's all fashion. Bands like Dragonforce (not that I like them) and the G3 tours show Eddie's star shines on. Also, give me five Ratts over one White Stripes any day. It tells me that with one well placed gig in London, Page's one concert reunion upstaged EVH's whole reunion tour. No doubt about that one. By the way my post count might be low, but I've been on Sam's boards since the late `90's, and have been a mega Led Zeppelin fan for 20 years now. Or is it 21?
  22. Okay, as long as someone got the Jimmy Page vs. Jimi Hendrix debate going, let's solve the Jimmy Page vs. Eddie Van Halen argument once and for all. Edward Lodewijk Van Halen: Definitely the better lead player. The more innovative guitarist, especially considering he came along just when everyone thought it had all been done. If you think tapping is all there was to him, you need to hear some of the bootlegs when Van Halen was playing in high school gyms and small bars. His playing was at its unbelievable peak then, when he was using just a Les Paul, Jr. -- no vibrato bar -- into a Marshall. Also, the Nashville 1978 makeup show with Black Sabbath: what an incredible ovation to an incredible solo! James Patrick Page: Despite Edward's superior dexterity and imagination around the guitar and guitar solo itself, there's no comparing the two as songwriters, however much I love "In a Simple Rhyme" or "Hang `em High." Jimmy's songs, like "Tangerine" or "What Is and What Should Never Be," resonate with me on a much deeper level than anything Ed has done. Also as a producer, who's done anything as good, much less better, than Led Zeppelin I? Possibly the best-produced album ever. (I don't discount JPJ had a LOT to do with all of this.) Let me hear Ed rip a big solo in his heyday, but if I'm going to listen to one guy's of albums all day, let it be those by Jimmy Page.
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