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  1. What songs do you think are counterparts to each other with Zep/Sabbath.  Like This would be Sabbath's Stairway if you will.

    Zep- Communication Breakdown to Sabbath would be Paranoid.

    Dazed and Confused to Sabbath would be Black Sabbath.

    Whole Lotta Love to Sabbath is Iron Man.

    Black Dog to Sabbath is War Pigs.

    No Quater to Sabbath is Planet Caravan.

  2. Presence to me is hard and ruff.  Its Zep in a bad mood.  Not one really happy song on there.  ITTOD sounds a little bit happy.  Its hard to connect ITTOD with the band that made Zep 1 to PG.  I guess each band is different.  To me its like Zep really aged after Presence.  Someone here said it a long time ago.  ITTOD sounds like Zep aged 10 yrs from Presence.  

  3. Whats the big difference between these two albums for you?  

    For me.  Presence feels more connected to the first 6 albums.  ITTOD.  It feels like Zep aged.  No longer kids if you get my meaning.  Presence has more solid Riffs/Solos.  The songs come off as darker and not in a good way.  ITTOD riffs are ok, but not spectacular.  I never hear anyone cover this era of Zep.  Fool in the Rain is the only song I hear on the radio.  I can't belive in the 3 yrs between both alums resulted in a sonically weak album in ITTOD.  

    Mind you.  At least it feels like Zep are right in time and they tried not to do a throwback.   I see these two albums in the bargin bin at music shops.  Presence my fave is For Your Life/ALStand/ ITTOD-Fool in the Rain/In the Evening/I'm Gonna Crawl.

    On Presence at least Zep sound powerful, but dark.  ITTOD.  Bonzo still sound strong.  The others not so much.  

  4. Its a hard VS question to debate.  I will take one aspect of it for me.  Its the year or my birth.  1971 ZoSo vs Sticky Fingers.  Which is the better album.  Which one should be the one that modern Rock and Roll bands should study.  

    Sticky Fingers vs ZoSo.  Album covers.  For me Zep wins.

    Vocals. Plant vs Jagger.  Plant vocals are overdubbed.  Jagger rocks it out.  I feel like because Jagger sounds more natural so Jagger wins for me.

    Riffs.  This is very hard.  Zep Riffs vs Stones Riffs.  Draw.  Both are great.

    Lyrics-Zep wins

    Drums-Bonzo wins over Watts.

    Bass-JPJ wins over Wyman.

    Guitar.  Its basically Page and his overdubs vs Keef/Taylor.  Hard to beat, but Page wins for me.

    Songs.  That tough.  ZoSo I love all the songs.  Sticky Fingers I could do with out Sway.  Its so hard to say.  I would really have to dig into the songs more.  I would say draw.

    Epic song.  Knocking vs Levee.  Thats hard.  Both of them are great.  Levee wins for me.  As its a top 10 Epic song for me.  

    Popular radio song.  Brown Sugar vs Black Dog.  Of course they are about sex to certain extents.  Black Dog I never get sick of.  So Zep wins on that front.  

    I feel like Sticky Fingers is more down and dirty Stones.  Where ZoSo is Zep being slick.  If I had to say which album Sticky Fingers should vs its actually Zep 2 where both albums have a down and dirty raw feel to it.  

     

    All in all which album would I reach for.  Both. Yet I feel like ZoSo wins but not by much.

  5. My take on Zep vs Purple is this.  I think that Purple had more precision than Zep.  Zep more wild and loose.  I saw Purple live a couple of years ago.  I did not feel the magic as much.  

    I listen to way more Zep than Purple.  Jon Lord's Keys are very key to Purple's sound.  Almost like having another guitar around, but disguised as a Keyboard.  

  6.  

    Who has the best dynamic of the following Frontman/woman/Guitars in terms of chemistry.

    Page/Plant-Zep

    Tyler/Perry-Aerosmith

    Jagger/Richards-The Rolling Stones

    DLR/Sammy/Eddie VH-Van Halen

    Gillen/Blackmore-Deep Purple

    Ann/Nancy-Heart

    Roger/Pete-The Who

    Buckingham/Nicks-Fleetwood Mac

    Paul/John-The Beatles

    Bon Scott/Brian Johnson-Angus Young- AC/DC

    Henley/Frey-The eagles

    Bono/edge-U2

    Axl/Slash-GNR

    Ian/Billy-The Cult

    Ritchie/Jon-Bon Jovi

     

    Just who do you think when you hear them comes off as Rock solid.  Add anyone if you care to.  

     

     

      

     

  7. I was listening to a Jimmy Page interview where he stated that Led Zeppelin where basically the only band that Bonzo skill set would allow him to play the drums the way he wanted to.  

    I posted that statement on my Zep Facebook group and it sort of caused an up roar.  

    Do any of you think you could plug Zep into a band where he would do well, or do you think that Bonzo's style would cripple the band.  Like could Bonzo fit into Sabbath better than The Who/Beatles/Stones/Hendrix.  

  8. Both were considered the fifth member of The Beatles/Led Zeppelin. 

    Which band went to greater fortune between the two.  

    Could we play with History.  If  GM hooked up with Zep I wonder how they would sound.  What about PG managing Zep.  I know both GM and PG did different things with their groups.

  9. Within the world of Zep.  Its must of been a sorespot, because we the fans know that Page/JPJ were not at the funeral.  Thats why on the Zep Facebook post that I am talking about.  Some of the posters know.  That means in some conversations with Plant.  Plant must have expressed agitation towards Page/JPJ for not coming.  Otherwise a lot of us would not know.

  10. So to cap this all off.  When they were off gigs.  Its not like Zep was calling each other to hang out all the time.  JPJ/Page would travel and do whatever.  Bonzo and Plant were more closer socially and if something happened.  They would know about it right away.  

    Some of the stories just make JPJ/Page not going to the funeral, seem cold.  Now in todays world.  No excuse.  With Twitter and all the social contact one has at their disposal, Anyone can contact anyone. 

    So due to Plant getting the funeral arrangements together fast and to the point.  The other 2 members of Zep did not have time to react or Plant did not invite them. 

  11. I just can't imagine what the hardship it is to attend the funeral.  I guess we all have to come to a conclusion that just because they have a kick ass band, does not mean that they are super buddies all the time.  I could see if it was a Nephew/niece that passed.  

    They were rich at that point.  Its not like it would have been some major trek for Page/JPJ to attend, given that they all lived in the UK.  Unless the funeral was super quick and both of them could not attend on short notice.

  12. I am on a Zep Facebook group, and its been stated that JPJ and Page did not attend Plant's son Karac's funeral  Does anyone know the reason why.  One poster said that Page was on vacation.  

    I find it hard to believe that JPJ and Page would not attend, unless there was some major reason not blocking them.  Even if Page was on Vacation.  He is rich enough to leave where he is from and attend and tun go back.

    I just find this hard to swallow.  Anyone care to shed light on this if possible.

  13. For me.  Certain riff passages are very Zep.  I feel like when Robert sings I've been Flying lyrics in Kashmir.  Thats very Zep.  Meaning no other band could really do that.  The end seimi Solo break down with the slide towards the end of When the Levee breaks is Zep as well.  The end Scat by Robert at the end of Ramble On as well.  The end of live DC and WLL on the Song Remains the Same live album is very Zeppelin as well.  

  14. Rival Sons are in my trinity of bands that were badass.  RS have that similar swagger of Zep, except that RS have a better edit button on their music.  I follow and have met some of the Rival Sons.  Although I was not a big fan of their last album.  They are the real deal.  Are they like Zep.  Yes and no.  They take the improv element of Zep on their live shows.

     

     

  15. I am on a Zep Facebook group.  One of the members was asked about if Zep will do any sort of get together for the reunion.  A bunch of things were said.  One lady said that Zep can't basically stand each other.  It made me sad.  She basically said they are business partners not a band of brothers.  What do you think.  

    I am not expecting Robert/Jimmy/JPJ to be constantly talking to each other all the time, but a couple of times a year to check in on each other.

    I have seen rumours on line that Jimmy did not go to Robert's Son Karacs funeral.  We don't know the reason why.  Jimmy could have had something where he could not attend due to being far away.  We don't know the dynamic of his schedual over that.  I don't know if JPJ went.  I know that Bonzo was there.  Things happen.  I found out that my friends father in law passed a yr and half from when it happened.  I was not told of his passing and he was great to me.  I did not go.  I did send a card to my friends wife after.  

    Anyways.  Do you feel that Zep were more business partners or brothers.  Other bands I feel the business thing.  Like Yes/Genisis, AC/DC, Bon Jovi.

     

     

  16. What I love about this era of Zep is that the bass and drums breath and are allowed to be cool and dynamic.  So its like Zep decided to use each istrument to power a groove, instead of doubling lines where the guitar/bass, double each other for the most part.  

    As much as Plant and Page dircted the band.  They would be nothing with out Bonham/JPJones.  

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