yup, i definitely dont lump presence in with houses and pg, even though presence came out only a year after pg. robert's car accident after '75 tour really started the downward spiral. i dont think presence was quite as consistent as their earlier albums and it just had a different feel.

I to IV (early) HOTH and PG (middle) Presence and ITTOD (late)

if you to go the youtube page theres some interesting comments from people who were there. anybody on here go to that show? they were definitely "on" that night, those 3 songs are all great versions. anyway 1 of the youtube comments is from someone who was sitting in the press box at the top of stadium. he says as soon as the band left the stage (after robert said theyd be back in 15 minutes) he saw a helicopter rise from behind the stage outside and he saw a part of jimmys dragon suit inside. who knows if thats true or not, but it seems pretty shitty if they left right away after saying theyd

"trying to find...trying to find...where ive beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen" when robert holds that note and the band goes back into the main riff is my favorite led zep moment on record. gives me goosebumps no matter how many times i hear it.

just rank it based on the new songs they recorded custard pie in my time of dying trampled underfoot kashmir in the light ten years gone the wanton song sick again still a monster

yea it all would have depended on jimmy, but i doubt they would have stayed together if jimmy continued to be a heroin addict, robert wasnt gonna continue down that road. if they stayed together assuming jimmy got clean i dont think we'd see another ittod. obviously thered be some influence of the times but it would have rocked alot harder than plant's solo stuff.

im probably in the minority but i prefer ittod over presence. i pretty much like every song on ittod, not a huge fan of candy store rock and tea for one is my least favorite led zep song. i think if jimmy wasnt so whacked out on heroin ittod wouldnt have been so keyboard driven. if they stayed together in the 80s i seriously doubt they were gonna turn into styx or journey.

im 38, i got into led zep in early 90s when i was about 12 or 13. i was a casual music fan at that time, i actually liked rap, de la soul, arrested development, etc. and some of the 80s hair bands, poison bon jovi, etc. but wasnt music obsessed. anyway 1 afternoon im in my bedroom with my brother and he puts in a tape and these songs come on. 1 after the other it was the most incredible music id ever heard in my life. i had no idea who or what it was. i ask my brother "who is this"? he says "guess". i think i said billy joel haha. anyway he says led zeppelin. i couldnt believe it. i heard of t

agree 10000000%. half hour versions of dazed moby dick and no quarter just scream of overblown 70s bombast. i actually think led zep felt the same way since they dropped those songs for the '80 tour. i would have no problem extending those songs live to 10-15 minute versions, but werent there 40+ minute versions of dazed? thats cray cray!

im in the opposite camp. those long songs are part of the reason i dont listen to a ton of led zep boots, or at least skip the long songs. gimme a 10 minute version of dazed and confused and play 3 or 4 more songs over a 40 minute version of dazed. they still could have improvised and made each version different every nite without having to play a half hour version. i do like the extended whole lotta love, but dazed no quarter and moby dick i rarely listen to live. fire away! haha

that is the most insane drumming ive ever heard in my life. and its only like 10 seconds or whatever haha

robert's "oh!" during the intro to sibly

wow, thats some rare shit right there. wonder how long after bonzo's death this was. weeks? months?

no problem with not including him. but they shouldnt have named the album no quarter, come on. and they performed it on the '98 tour in its original form, why play jonesy's signature song without him?????? very disrespectful.

wearing and tearing 100% should have been on the album.

like it better than the album version. guitars sound more raw and heavy. i like the original, i love the alternate

complete earls court on bluray!

not a big fan of poor tom, much prefer hats off. but hey hey is better than them both

yes. yes they did.

thats a sweet looking shirt!

13?????????

presence has really grown on me recently. for your life and royal orleans were songs i never really got that into but i really enjoy them now. ive always loved achilles nobodys fault and hots on. still not crazy about candy store rock and especially tea for one, that will always be my least fav zep song.

i think hots of for nowhere is the #1 most underrated led zeppelin song. love everything about it. and the drumming in the 2nd half of the song is incredible.

top 5 is too difficult, but i know my top 2 1 - custard pie 2 - heartbreaker