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Silvermedalist, let them have their fun. I actually thought Ady's big banner headline was meant to be taken seriously, but obviously I was wrong. But all this pissing and moaning will get us nowhere. However, regardless of whether LZ are indeed the best band ever, I think it's fair to say that they're a whole lot better than Sabbath. Here's how I see it: Sabbath were humble and unassuming tree-fellers, whereas Zep took wood and fashioned fine carvings out of it, or wrote holy books on the paper.
Or, if you prefer, here's a geographical analogy: Zep were the Cambridge to the Sabs' Manea. As a fellow resident of Cambridgeshire, I'm confident that Ady will appreciate what I'm getting at here.
It's hard to take guys like you and Silvermedalist seriously. I don't see myself like a "die hard zep fan", "zep's the greatest" or "zep forever" kind of fan, not when it comes to Zep or any other band or artist. Zep was a great band, so were the Sabs and 100 other great rock'n'roll bands. If any, I am a die hard music fan. I would never limit myself to anything else. But who the fuck cares in hundred years anyways.. This is my second 2 cents for this discussion, and the end of it..
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Diversity does not make a rock and roll band sophisticated. My two cents.
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It didn't sound rough to me at all! I liked it!
And dude, you've got some awesome guitar moves there! Seriously! Have you ever tried to play your guitar behind your back? (like Hendrix often did) Cos that will be so cool! Thanks. Nope, never tried that, I wouldn't get a straight tone out of the guitar doin' that.. LOL I leave that to the professionals.
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Hi Swede!
Really really cool seeing you and your band in action there mate! Thanks for posting that vid! And may I add, what an awesome way to spend a Saturday night! A big thumbs up! LOL Thanks! Indeed, it is a great way to spend a Saturday night. I didn't get to bed until 05:00 am early Sunday morning..
Here's another song from the same night, a little rough around the edges, but what the hell..
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I was on this gig, Saturday 25th Sep. I'm the guy on the right with the black & white Epiphone Crestwood.. LOL
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Just stumbled upon this clip of the Black Crowes from last Friday's show in Raleigh where there was supposedly a strict "no cameras" policy in effect by request of the band:
That kind of policy by The Black Crowes must be quite new.. I get the feeling they never had any requests like that back in the days..
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Had to bid on a couple of really great Excello 45's.. Got these three:
Lightnin' Slim - Bad Luck And Trouble / Have Your Way (Excello 1956)
Awesome two-sider with great swamp blues. This is Lightnin' Slims fourth single.
Lightnin' Slim - I Leavin' You / Feelin' Awful Blue (Excello 1958 or '59)
The ninth single from Lightnin' Slim, just as great as any of his early singles!
Roscoe Shelton - Is It Too Late Babe / Baby Look What You've Done (Excello 1960)
Really nice rhythm and blues!!
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Went by a second hand vinyl store this evening when I was heading home from work. Got a little inspired to look for Black Sabbath albums that I don't have.. Ended up with these three classic albums, all on vinyl:
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere
On their groundbreaking debut album, the 13th Floor Elevators sometimes sounded as if they were still learning how to work with the strange beast of their own creation known as psychedelic rock. But their second set, 1967's Easter Everywhere, found them a great deal more comfortable and confident with their loose and hypnotically trippy approach. Easter Everywhere doesn't have an out-of-the-box classic cut like "You're Gonna Miss Me" or "Fire Engine" from The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators, but in many ways it's a more cohesive and consistent work, and the subtle but effective structures of the longer tracks grow and develop through repeated listenings, while rockers like "She Lives (In a Time of Her Own)" and "Levitation" pack a surprisingly visceral punch. Stacy Sutherland was never a blazing guitar hero, but his concise aural punctuations on the epochal "Slip Inside This House" and a superb cover of Dylan's "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" are perfectly suited to the material. In addition, the rhythm section of Dan Galindo on bass and Danny Thomas on drums locks these songs into place with confidence and skill. The strange patterns of Tommy Hall's electric jug playing are as gloriously bewildering as ever, merging the music of the spheres with an alien attack, and Roky Erickson's vocals make even the most acid-damaged poesy sound passionate, graceful, and wildly alive. And Roky and the Elevators never sounded sweeter and saner than they did on the penultimate tune, "I Had to Tell You," with Roky seemingly offering a postscript to his many sad years to follow with the words "If you fear I'll lose my spirit/Like a drunkard's wasted wine/Don't you even think about it/I'm feeling fine." Even if less influential than The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators, Easter Everywhere is every bit as compelling and a true benchmark of early psychedelic rock — not bad for an album produced by Kenny Rogers' brother.
Electric Prunes - Underground
According to Electric Prunes members Jim Lowe and Mark Tulin, producer Dave Hassinger enjoyed enough success as a result of the group's early hit singles and their subsequent debut album that he was too busy to spend much time with them as they were recording the follow up, and that was arguably a good thing for the band. While Underground didn't feature any hit singles along the lines of "I Had to Much to Dream (Last Night)," it's a significantly more consistent work than the debut, and this time out the group was allowed to write five of the disc's twelve songs, allowing their musical voice to be heard with greater clarity. As on their first LP, the Electric Prunes' strongest asset was the guitar interplay of Jim Lowe, Ken Williams and James "Weasel" Spagnola, and while they became a bit more restrained in their use of fuzztone, wah-wah and tremolo effects, there's a unity in their attack on Underground that's impressive, and the waves of sound on "Antique Doll," "Big City" and " "Children of Rain" reveal a new level creative maturity (though they could make with a wicked, rattling fuzz on "Dr. Do-Good"). If Underground ultimately isn't as memorable as the Electric Prunes' first album, it's a matter of material — while the outside material that dominated the debut was sometimes ill-fitting, it also gave them some stone classic tunes like "I Had Too Much to Dream" and "Get Me to the World on Time," and the band themselves didn't have quite that level of songwriting chops, while the hired hands didn't deliver the same sort of material for Underground. Still, the album shows that the Electric Prunes had the talent to grow into something more mature and imaginative than their reputation suggested, and it's all the more unfortunate that the group's identity would be stripped from them for the next album released under their name, Mass in F Minor.
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^^ Really nice cover!! I haven't heard it before. Actually, I haven't heard that record, but I will have to buy it next time I see it.
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Perry and The Travellers, really great rockin live band. They have made one album which you can find and purchase at their myspace. Their music is definitely influenced by bands like Lynyrd Skynyrd, Thin Lizzy and Derek & The Dominos.
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And for the record, Swede's music tastes are really awesome!
Thanks to him, I've got into a variety of bands which are absolutely amazing!Well, thank you, you are too kind. I think Chowder's words wasn't aimed at me, for some strange reason I was quoted Jahfin's words LOL
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I really want to get Sabotage and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, I am a bit curious about those albums. I have a friend who's favorite Sabbath album is Sabotage too. The cover art it self for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath makes me want a copy of that album. LOL
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Agian, check out Basement Tapes which was recorded around the time Music From The Big Pink were recorded.. It's right up there as the two first Band albums, IMHO.
The official release of The Basement Tapes — which were first heard on a 1968 bootleg called The Great White Wonder — plays with history somewhat, as Robbie Robertson overemphasizes the Band's status in the sessions, making them out to be equally active to Dylan, adding in demos not cut at the sessions and overdubbing their recordings to flesh them out. As many bootlegs (most notably the complete five-disc series) reveal, this isn't entirely true and that the Band were nowhere near as active as Dylan, but that ultimately is a bit like nitpicking, since the music here (including the Band's) is astonishingly good. The party line on The Basement Tapes is that it is Americana, as Dylan and the Band pick up the weirdness inherent in old folk, country, and blues tunes, but it transcends mere historical arcana by being lively, humorous, full-bodied performances. Dylan never sounded as loose, nor was he ever as funny as he is here, and this positively revels in its weird, wild character. For all the apparent antecedents — and the allusions are sly and obvious in equal measures — this is truly Dylan's show, as he majestically evokes old myths and creates new ones, resulting in a crazy quilt of blues, humor, folk, tall tales, inside jokes, and rock. The Band pretty much pick up where Dylan left off, even singing a couple of his tunes, but they play it a little straight, on both their rockers and ballads. Not a bad thing at all, since this actually winds up providing context for the wild, mercurial brilliance of Dylan's work — and, taken together, the results (especially in this judiciously compiled form; expert song selection, even if there's a bit too much Band) rank among the greatest American music ever made.
Personally, I somewhat disagree with the allmusic.com review above, after all, Dylan is backed by The Band on all songs and their presence and influence is very obvious in the songs.
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My first Black Sabbath record was Live Evil, with Ronnie James Dio.. But I guess it was because I was into Dio's music, such as Elf, Rainbow and Dio.
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^^ Cool, thanks, I had no clue Patterson and DBT had music featured in movies. I will have to check them out.
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Hope this helps.
Allmusic.com reviews of the first three albums:
Black Sabbath - s/t
Black Sabbath's debut album is given over to lengthy songs and suite-like pieces where individual songs blur together and riffs pound away one after another, frequently under extended jams. There isn't much variety in tempo, mood, or the band's simple, blues-derived musical vocabulary, but that's not the point; Sabbath's slowed-down, murky guitar rock bludgeons the listener in an almost hallucinatory fashion, reveling in its own dazed, druggy state of consciousness. Songs like the apocalyptic title track, "N.I.B.," and "The Wizard" make their obsessions with evil and black magic seem like more than just stereotypical heavy metal posturing because of the dim, suffocating musical atmosphere the band frames them in. This blueprint would be refined and occasionally elaborated upon over the band's next few albums, but there are plenty of metal classics already here.
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Paranoid was not only Black Sabbath's most popular record (it was a number one smash in the U.K., and "Paranoid" and "Iron Man" both scraped the U.S. charts despite virtually nonexistent radio play), it also stands as one of the greatest and most influential heavy metal albums of all time. Paranoid refined Black Sabbath's signature sound crushingly loud, minor-key dirges loosely based on heavy blues-rock and applied it to a newly consistent set of songs with utterly memorable riffs, most of which now rank as all-time metal classics. Where the extended, multi-sectioned songs on the debut sometimes felt like aimless jams, their counterparts on Paranoid have been given focus and direction, lending an epic drama to now-standards like "War Pigs" and "Iron Man" (which sports one of the most immediately identifiable riffs in metal history). The subject matter is unrelentingly, obsessively dark, covering both supernatural/sci-fi horrors and the real-life traumas of death, war, nuclear annihilation, mental illness, drug hallucinations, and narcotic abuse. Yet Sabbath makes it totally convincing, thanks to the crawling, muddled bleakness and bad-trip depression evoked so frighteningly well by their music. Even the qualities that made critics deplore the album (and the group) for years increase the overall effect the technical simplicity of Ozzy Osbourne's vocals and Tony Iommi's lead guitar vocabulary; the spots when the lyrics sink into melodrama or awkwardness; the lack of subtlety and the infrequent dynamic contrast. Everything adds up to more than the sum of its parts, as though the anxieties behind the music simply demanded that the band achieve catharsis by steamrolling everything in its path, including its own limitations. Monolithic and primally powerful, Paranoid defined the sound and style of heavy metal more than any other record in rock history.
Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
With Paranoid, Black Sabbath perfected the formula for their lumbering heavy metal. On its follow-up, Master of Reality, the group merely repeated the formula, setting the stage for a career of recycling the same sounds and riffs. But on Master of Reality Sabbath still were fresh and had a seemingly endless supply of crushingly heavy riffs to bludgeon their audiences into sweet, willing oblivion. If the album is a showcase for anyone, it is Tony Iommi, who keeps the album afloat with a series of slow, loud riffs, the best of which "Sweet Leaf" and "Children of the Grave" among them rank among his finest playing. Taken in tandem with the more consistent Paranoid, Master of Reality forms the core of Sabbath's canon. There are a few stray necessary tracks scattered throughout the group's other early-'70s albums, but Master of Reality is the last time they delivered a consistent album and its influence can be heard throughout the generations of heavy metal bands that followed.
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Well, I am probably not the best person to advise you as I still miss a lot of their catalog of records in my collection. BUT, you can never go wrong with their debut album, Black Sabbath. It includes songs like Black Sabbath, The Wizard and N.I.B. I guess Paranoid is another great album to start with.
Personally I recently found a nice vinyl copy of Mater Of Reality, which is a great album too.
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I love The Band. Of course, The Weight is often the first song people hear by the Band, but there are definitely so much more to them than that one song. Their first two albums is awesome and another album that I highly recomend is the double album they released together with Bob Dylan, "Basement Tapes". About half of the songs are sung by members of The Band while they are backing Bob on the rest.
Here are a couple of my fav songs (could not find any from Basement Tapes on youtube):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxOXEN2Vl0I&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhgypQUm_qc&
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You might be interested in this Heep thread
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^^ Nice video and tune, Jahfin.
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A couple of brilliant 45's:
Dusty Brown - Yes She's Gone / He Don't Love You (Parrot 1955)
Really nice heavy rhythm'n'blues!! The youtube link is a 78 rpm, while I got me a 45.
Gay Meadows - Ugly Chile / Limbo (Trumpet 1963)
Very obscure r'n'b with extremely funny lyrics!! Cool 45!!!! Can't hardly find anything on the net about this one.
Joe Liggens (misspelt, should be Liggins) - Yeah Yeah Yeah / They Were Doin' The Mambo (Mercury 1954)
Great 50's proto- rocker/r'n'b!! B-side is cool too! Pretty rare!
Baby Boy Jennings and The Satellites - Goin' Home / Little Girl (Savoy 1960)
Yet another great obscure r'n'b single!!
The Esquires -
/ Big Thing (Alley 1966)Fantastic garage rocker!!! One of my new favourites damn it!!!!!!!!!!
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A cool 45 by:
The Yo Yo's - Gotta Find a New Love / I've Got Something In My Eye (Goldwax 1966)
Great garage band from Memphis TN.
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Nice, looking good!
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Hey Walter, none of their albums are bad, sure one or two may be less great then their best, but I recomend checking out their whole catalog. After all, they only did five studio albums and a live album. Even the outtakes albums, such as "First And Last" and "Ledgends" are worth seeking out. I'd say you're in for a treat if you haven't heard all of their stuff.
And dude, you've got some awesome guitar moves there! 
Seriously! Have you ever tried to play your guitar behind your back? (like Hendrix often did) Cos that will be so cool! 
Really really cool seeing you and your band in action there mate! 
The Black Sabbath Thread
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I am not by far any expert. Seems like the otherway as you so easily disclaim any other bands than Zep as the greatest. And yes, no one will give a shit in 100 years what you or I think, which was my point, nothing else.
I really don't give a damn if you can't see the influence Sabbath have had on modern music. After all, you don't listen to any thing post 70's which you have pointed out a million times yourself, so how in the world would you know. It's your loss.
You sound like a fourteen year old on a Beatles concert 1965. I wonder who's sleeping...