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ledrim

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  1. It could be that Plant said that but his first solo album is not too mellow, even has a few pretty heavy rockers.
  2. Interesting thought about them going into a longer hiatus after Karac's death. In hindsight, it surely was the move they should have made. But it was a relatively turbulent time for Classic Rock bands around 1980. They were already being labelled a Dinosaur and to further retreat from the public may have been considered a career suicide. There would have been a new generation of "competition" with the Metal bands and Hair bands gaining in popularity. Could they have survived and thrived in this new environment. Not sure if the 1980 version as we know it could have. If indeed they could have sobered up and get their chops back, then it would certainly would have been interesting to see how they approached the new metal and hair band scene. A thorough and honest interview with the surviving members would perhaps shed some light onto what their attitude and direction in the 80's would have been. I don't recall ever reading anything in depth about this. Of course, they probably have no clue to what the band would have been beyond the next album, which Jimmy said would have been a more rocking album than ITTOD.
  3. Haven't read through everything, besides some concerts or new live recordings, how about some video's detailing the making of some/all of their albums. Similar to the "Classic Albums" series that have run on TV before. It would be great to hear and see Jimmy behind the mixing board talking about all the different tracks that go into the making of the songs. Just imagine him breaking down the tracks of TYG or ALS.
  4. I'm pretty sure it was Rock and Roll From TSRTS, actually remember watching it. It's hard to imagine the biggest band in the world never appearing live on TV.
  5. Any decent fan of Jimmy has to be frustrated. I look at friends who love Rush, Who, Springsteen, McCartney, Stones etc and I'm totally jealous. They get to see their "bands" play quite often. Say what you want about the bands getting old and all that, but at least the fans are given the opportunity to see these bands. You can choose not to go if you don't want to see them play a sub peak level. As fans of Jimmy/Zeppelin we get the opportunity to get excited about listening to Zep II for the millionth time.
  6. Yes, one show with JPJ in the last 30 years, is a great way to honor the fans faithful support. I just don't think it needs to be so black and white, there could have been room for the occasional show/tour while maintaining his solo career (i.e. Phil Collins).
  7. I wonder if Robert would be willing to do these two shows if he didn't have to spend the next five years defending his position about not participating in a full zeppelin revival. But you would think that a Press Conference where he could tell the world that he's just doing these two shows and then going back to his solo career would put a stop to all the rumors I certainly understand that he has the right to do what he wants assuming there is no real animosity amongst the three remaining members, why the hell not do the shows...at least for your fans who have been supporting you for over 35 years. You have to admit that the Zeppelin fans are probably the most loyal and frustrated fans out there. They (or Robert) are truly unique in their attitude about performing together. I guess we don't count. .
  8. In case you are not familiar with this blog, Bob mentions Zep fairly often. Here is a great take on Ramble On. Look up his recent blog on Physical Graffiti as well as Ten Years Gone http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2015/04/07/ramble-on-3/
  9. Long time member here, looking for some assistance from the Zeppelin community. You can View then Evaluate In My Time Of Dying at this new website. https://www.videvals.com/view?performanceName=led%20zeppelin We are also looking for people to post and rate videos from any band or genre that you like. Thanks Glen
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    Page vs Millard

    I always thought that a great story/movie should be made about this one week in LA. Obviously, the shows would be a highlight, but a good deal of attention should be given to Millard and the legacy that he created for all of us. There is also a lot of groupie stuff going on as well. The groupie scene was captured really well in Almost Famous. But one part Millard, one part concerts and one part groupie would make for a really interesting book or movie.
  11. I'm well entrenched in the camp that believes he's been saying this exact thing every year for the last eight years. It's always this time of the year and it's always a project that he can't talk about. I can understand him not recording and touring, but to completely give up playing is quite frustrating for the fans. If he's basically retired then go out with a bang...he can have one or two shows with the greatest musicians backing him as well as a group of the most iconic singers...playing Zeppelin as well as the iconic songs that he played on before Zeppelin and any other songs that he cherishes. Let the world celebrate the legend of Jimmy Page..take a page from Derek Jeter.
  12. I recently read the Bill Graham book and found it very enjoyabe. He had a remarkable like, fleeing the Natzies in Germany at the age of 8 and coming to America by himself. He then basiclly invented the Rock Concert as we know it today. Definitely a good read.
  13. This show (Badgeholders) is probaby my favorite boot. I think it has THE best versions of Sick Again, TYG, possibly NFBM and Achilles. Jimmy should release this show or a compliation from all these LA shows, I know the quality is not up to a multitrack, but they are the best examples of the "Latter Days" of the band.
  14. Was on Amazon to pre order the remastered albums and saw that Destroyer was available. I started collecting bootlegs in the late 70's and we had one version of Destroyer that was not a good performance. Subsequently, I've heard other versions called Destoyer that were quite good. I believe the good show included the Nut Cracker in the NQ jam. The version on Amazon is from 4/27, is this the good performance or not so good performance? Thanks, Glen
  15. I think it's they could Hammer like the G-ds, and at the same time they could switch gears 180 degrees and make more delicate music that was still pure and true. Their "lighter" side never sounded like a bull shit balad or pop song. Everything was always "cool".
  16. The only good argument you could make for Zep being #1 over the Beatles is Live Performance. I guess in the early days the Beatles were a great live band. Unfortunately they stopped touring when they became more of a Rock band (rather than a Pop band). I think the aspect of Live Performance is a huge factor in evaluating a band and the Beatles report card for this is Incomplete. Would John, Paul, George and Ringo been able to perform a 2.5 hour concert that could touch the energy and musicianship of a Zeppelin concert.
  17. I think you can look for the below qualities to measure the greatness of a band: Quality/Quantity of studio work. Originality and influence of the "sound" of the band. Live Performance - which breaks down into two categories 1 - Ability to recreate the songs live as well as reimagine the songs. 2- Personality - Ability to entertain 20,000 people with your stage presence. Aura - You can't really quantify this...it's basically a presence if you will. Longevity - How well does the music stand the test of time. There are very few bands who get an A+ in each of these categories. For me Zeppelin and maybe the Who are the only ones.
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    1977

    It could also be that the audience was getting a bit younger. I was 14 when I saw them in '77 and was just getting into R&R. The series of concerts at MSG that year was a huge event in our Junior HS. ...so many of us were going to the shows. Zeppelin always was appealing to young people and in some ways that tour represented a changing of the guard. A new generation of younger and rowdier kids were going to the shows. Perhaps some of the older fans were now moving onto other bands and other parts of their lives and weren't going to concerts as much.
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  20. So many possibilities...but suprisingly nobody has mentioned the opening/closing riffs of Moby Dick...to me, it doens't get any better than this one.
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    another year over

    I think that most people around here feel the same way. I'm not sure if any musician would publicize their retirement, but at this point it looks like Jimmy has retired. It's hard to believe, but it seems he won't tour or put out new music unless it's with Robert. I don't know but you would think that Robert's and JPJ's constant activity would inspire Jimmy to work a little but I guess not. Thank god for bootlegs. I could see a release of the 02 DVD next year to celebrate its 5 year anniversary.
  22. In retrospect, '98 was both spectacular and sad as well. Indeed, for the most part Jimmy had returned to form. I saw them at MSG in NY, and when he started playing Heartbreaker, I was like...oh oh, but he pulled it off and the show was amazing. I would love to know exactly what happened between '95 and '98, perhaps Robert encouraged him to get straight, practice etc...whatever it was, it worked. As for the sad part, '98 seems to be the coda for Jimmy in terms of taking on a full tour. If you think about it, just when Jimmy gets his chops back, Robert takes off and leaves. You can look at it two ways..maybe Robert's mission was to try to help Jimmy get back to form and once he did, Robert thought "job done, now he can stand on his own two feet". Or perhaps, once Robert saw that Jimmy was becomming a monster on stage again, Robert felt threatened a bit and left so he can assume his position as the headlne performer. Perhaps this is giving Robert too much credit for Jimmy's revisal but it certainly makes you think about the timing of everything.
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    Jimmy Page Says...

    I just think that it has been a frustrating 10 years (and counting) for fans of Jimmy. I wish he would just get out there and play...album or no album. He doesn't need a new album as an excuse for a tour. And if he doesn't have the energy or popularity to do a major tour, why not do a handful of shows at a local theater in London, NY and/or LA...The Allman brothers always do a series of shows at the Beacon Theater in NY and I think that would be a great way for Jimmy to just get out there and play. He could easily sell out about 5-10 shows, create a great buzz in the city and most of all just play his guitar....you would think that at some point he would be itching to play somewhere live.
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    Jimmy Page Says...

    If Jimmy had been working on new music, there would have been some kind of leak about the project over the past several months. Since there have been no leaks about new music, I have to believe that he hasn't worked on anything. I would be shocked if he announced that he was releasing a new album in the next month or two because of the lack of leaks about this.
  25. Saw Robert last night (4/14) in Hollywood, Florida. It was a very enjoyable show until some of the amps blew out during Please Read the Letter. I was one of the louded noices I ever heard...actually happened twice. During the middle of the song Robert turned the stage monitors around to point to the audience so we could hear they a little better. They didn't stop the show to truly fix exerything. So HOTH and Ramble On did not sound very good...too bad because those were probably the two songs I wanted to hear the most. When they came back on for the encore they played Gallows Pole and that was it. The PA was fine for this, not sure what they did, but it sounced really good. I was expecting a few more songs or at least another attempt at the songs that you couldn't hear very well. The entire show lasted 1.5 hours. The ironic thing about this is that Zeppelin played some of the loudest shows every and rarely did this happen. When Robert tones it down...then he busts the amps...go figure?
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