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Hello everyone, I remain indebted to Ms. Su Kim Chung, Special Collections, UNLV Archives for accepting my request in her most valuable time. She has very kindly sent us the fans the following outstanding confirmations from The Las Vegas August 1969 Publication, "Fabulous" that lists events of Vegas including Ike and Tina Turner, Elvis among others. I have been in search of this magazine for quite some time, (august 9, 1969 Tina Turner Cover of Fabulous on Ebay Sold Out)... with Sincerest Thanks to Ms. Su Kim Chung, here are the photos that she has sent to us...
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Mikezep61, Passion for Led Zeppelin is Timeless, Thank you for such wonderful news, it is truly an honour to be among such passionate fans here ......
I just reviewed the Thread, I noticed that Las Vegas Sun was searched (I usually asked for at least week before and after the Aug. 11 date), but unfortunately, only the cancellation of August 10th, was reported at the Convention Centre - don't know how this article would have been missed at the UNLV...(i even recall, that Mike Tell and his Team personally at one time searched the archives, the archivists informed me, but they could not find anything)
- at last, I shall convey that my last message from the Veteran Journalist Laura Deni/Las Vegas Billboard stated that She has spoken to Mike Tell, and he has indicated to her that he did not promote LZ concert in Vegas, and that she cannot help me further in this regard....she also stated that embellishment was common in those days for young promoters, including Mike Tell, and that the about 4 promoters in Las Vegas in total would compete with each other but now are warm community - they were all aware of this news of Mike Tell/LZ Concert Promoter (none of them had news of LZ being present for short concert otherwise promoted by some source)
She further stated that if Mike Tell had promoted this concert, it would have been published (Front Page likely) in the Las Vegas Israelite, further, from my messages to Mike Tell, and His Promoter Brother Jay Tell (their email address publicly available at that time) never were returned, and at last Jay Tell, the Editor of Las Vegas Free Press (I posted this article) did not publish any promotion of LZ by the Tell Brothers - There is no Book that has come out as it was once indicated....
I have always believed ONLY The Legendary Richard Cole during the passionate (disillusional at times) Search, as he recalled from Memory but always correct, that LZ were in Las Vegas for Concert - Having said this, I wonder if Concerts West promoted this concert, or connection with Elvis Promoter? It cannot be Mike Tell - His entire family is in publication in Las Vegas and none of the publications - No News of LZ being at Ice Palace - Had they promoted this concert, they would have published the news, in Las Vegas Free Press, or Las Vegas Israelite, or Las Vegas Weekly -
I cannot recall the exact details, but there was dispute in publication of Las Vegas Sun and Las Vegas Free Press - (Jay Tell became publisher of Las Vegas Free Press)
Laua Deni has indicated that she has met Peter Grant Several times, and interviewed him, but unfortunately, no way to access any of those interviews- I do not have any contact for her as of now nor she was helpful in this regard during the search;
Rodney B. did give interview in Guitarworld '86 where he indicated that he arranged for LZ to see Elvis.....
- I also remember that Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull was indicated via his Concert Official Site, that the Legendary Musician was in Las Vegas August 11,1969 in the audience to see Elvis with LZ... ..cannot confirm defintely, but I did receive a word from their Site that Legendary Ian Anderson was in Las Vegas August 11, 1969 but they don't know about LZ...
Sam thank you for such wonderful Forum, indebted to you for bringing us together in Honour of "LZ".....
apologies for typos this late...
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...Very Happy Birthday to James Patrick Page! Each and every Day Graced with your Incomparable Talent, Beauty, Charm, this world is truly beautiful!! You are loved and loved....!!
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Strider, Rick, and all of the fans celebrating LZ Birthday, my sincerest wishes for all of you...my physical absence is not measure for my regard for all you...
Deborah, you are very much regarded, and our efforts are still going strong!! much later Deborah! I am in travel right now....will log in much as I can...
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http://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/art-and-culture/theres-a-songbird-who-steals-2917845/
Led Zeppelin’s Stairway to Heaven: There’s a songbird who steals?
Even if the band had lost the lawsuit, Led Zeppelin’s Stairway to Heaven would be still be on top of the charts.
Written by Akhil Sood | Published:July 17, 2016 12:00 am For years, Led Zeppelin have been accused of lifting parts of Jimmy Page’s intro of Stairway to Heaven from another song. (Source: Andrew Smith)
In countries more developed than ours, you have massive guitar stores, with a designated area where you can plug the guitars into the amps available and test them out. Most of these shops will have a sign in the area, warning all former and future guitar virtuosos that they’ll be kicked out if they play Led Zeppelin’s Stairway to Heaven. This song has p***ed off the employees so much that it’s now banned (along with a select few others: Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple, AC/DC’s Highway to Hell, and Hotel California by Eagles).
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It’s an impossible task to evaluate the worth of a single song and locate its place in the history of rock ‘n’ roll, so the best we can do is judge it by anecdotal evidence and causality. Inspiring thousands of children to pick up the guitar to learn it should fare quite high on the basis of these parameters, I think. Today, 45 years later, even in India, you’ll have pre-pubescent chumps buying a rackety Givson guitar for Rs 3,000 and forcing their parents to pay for a guitar teacher. “Screw scales and exercises,” they say, “I want to learn Stairway to Heaven.” It’s a testament to the longevity of a single melody, which steers the song into such lofty heights, developing new lives with each passing movement. For what it’s worth, the relevance of this song has not waned (And I say this as a sceptic, one who staunchly refuses to commit to the cult of Led Zeppelin.)
There’s no such thing as a perfect song, of course; if there were, there’d be no need to write or listen to any new music. We’d just play that thing on loop until rigor mortis. But you have all these little self-contained rules and regulations to judge just how important a song really is. Being a source of inspiration is a major factor, but so is the obsession it can elicit.
Music fans tend to, by nature, be a nerdy lot who’ll internalise music to worrying degrees, getting lost in the process. Like that time one sadsack young fan decided he liked Stairway to Heaven so much that he just had to play it backwards. Thus began the discovery of those mythical Satanic proclamations that are apparently embedded in the song. Inciting such rabid commitment has to stand for something.
There’s a case to be made about the musicianship and the songwriting: how so much of what we hear in the mainstream is essentially rehashing old tropes and tricking our brains into mistaking familiarity for fondness. Some songs are simple and catchy, so we like them (like everything the Beatles wrote before they discovered drugs). Some aren’t, but they’re well-crafted, so we like them anyway (like everything the Beatles wrote after). Stairway to Heaven falls somewhere in the middle: it’s not exactly a simple three-chord song, and has plenty of dynamics in its arrangement. But it’s not some grand display of virtuosity either. It’s just a really solid rock ‘n’ roll song with that little something extra.
I don’t know them personally, but the guys in the band sound like horrible people. They took the “sex, drugs, rock ‘n’ roll” template to its logical extreme — the tragic death of drummer John Bonham is a case in point. And yet all’s forgiven. In fact, they’re venerated for their recklessness. They’re icons of rock ‘n’ roll, to the point that so much of the music that came after them was really either a continuation of what they did, or a counter-response to it.
Photo of Led Zepplin – (L-R) John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Bonham – posed, group shot, sitting on car bonnet – first photo session with WEA Records in London in December 1968. (Photo by Dick Barnatt/Redferns)
You can’t attribute all of that to just one song, but it does help. It has that transcendental quality that unites opposing factions. You can play it at a house party and no one minds; play it on a “Bollywood night”, an “EDM night”, or just at a dive bar with crackly speakers, and no one minds. The reaction is always one of thrill or wistful nostalgia. So you judge the band less harshly.
That softened stance becomes all the more important given recent events. They have, since before this writer was even born, been facing accusations that the memorable intro by Jimmy Page features parts they lifted from the guitar line of a song called Taurus, by an obscure ’60s psychedelic band called Spirit, who they crossed paths with back in the day. The suit was finally filed in 2014, and, last month, Led Zeppelin was found not guilty of plagiarism. It doesn’t mean they didn’t steal it, though —just that a jury decided that they hadn’t.
That’s the thing: anything truly famous and remarkable will inevitably be followed by persistent accusations of dishonesty and intellectual theft (just ask Anu Malik). Sometimes it’s because of the endless maze of copyright laws, where copying certain things is permitted, like a chord progression, but copy a guitar line and you’re dead meat. It get more complex when you bring a tribute or homage into the picture. The reason why people commit crimes is not because we’re immoral; it’s because the laws are impossible to fully understand. The answer is rarely black-and-white, but the conversation itself — and how closely it’s followed by people — signifies its relevance in contemporary culture. And just for that, Stairway to Heaven has now become an even more important song in the grand scheme of things.
Akhil Sood is a Delhi-based musician and journalist.
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The Original Spirit of Slip Disc, Bombay, Dishoom Cafe in London....
"No Hassling Robert and Jimmy at Slip Disc".........
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On 7/29/2016 at 11:08 AM, sam_webmaster said:
New York 6-13-77 review
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/show/june-13-1977
Led Zeppelin’s Garden Party
They were all along. Led Zeppelin, but they weren’t due to go on display until 8 pm. At 7:50, on the next – to –last night of the band’s ’77 tour (1st leg), Pennsylvania Plaza was covered with the young and the stoned. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant sat conversing in that timeless no-place which is the haven of the stars, but their fans outside were very much in evidence. The cabbies may still be talking about it.
Several escalators later, the concessionaires were taking about it too. They insisted as they poured beer and Pepsi that Madison Square Garden had never hosted a crowd like this one. Who is this Led Zeppelin, they seemed to say, and why are they bothering us?
Down in the arena, it was after eight and the crowd knew it. There was wild cheering after every song on the public address system and waving of flags and banners. Jimmy Page would not actually spin out the opening chords of the Song Remains the Same until nearly nine, but the massive garden was already alive with a frenzy it would not lose until after midnight.
Behind the barriers, the security men were leaning against the stage with a grim look. They were protecting a somewhat abbreviated version of previous Zeppelin setups, with a smaller, hanging sound system reminiscent of the Stone’s last tour, but they were also protecting the world’s most popular rock band – no easy chore.
The word continued to spread that Zeppelin was coming on and the dim overhead lights continued to stay lit. No amount of crowd frenzy seemed able to coax the band out, until suddenly the darkness shot out from the stage and they were there. Page’s guitar interrupted the screaming immediately and left it meaningless.
After three quick songs from Led Zeppelin’s more recent albums, including a tasteful Plant harmonica solo, the band slid into Over the Hills and Far Away… with a guitar burst from Page that left the crowd stunned. Zeppelin had now built a momentum and they were content to cruise with it while slowly exposing their more sedate talents. For all concerned, it was to be a long evening.
“Has anyone ever heard of the blues?”, asked Plant. The answer to this poignant query was Since I’ve Been Loving You, a slow but powerful number which again found Page in fiery form. This was one of several arrangements during the evening to differ radically from the album cut; a grizzled veteran in the front row would later be heard to remark that it was even “different from Tuesday and Wednesday night.” That Page can jam a little…
No Quarter has been a centerpiece for the keyboard talents of John Paul Jones on the past two Zep tours, so it was no surprise to hear the familiar organ chords oozing out from Jones’ synthesizer post on stage left. What was surprising, however, was the freshness and vigor Jones brought to a very old assignment. His synthesized piano solo and a few laser lights solicited inhibited crowd approval and Page’s reappearance to weave his guitar sorcery turned the moment to magic. It may well have been the high point.
Ten Years Gone, the song about the first love “you never should have lost…” did nothing to break the spell. The album version features no less than nine guitar harmonies, and Page once said the band should be congratulated on this tour for even attempting it. But with a triple-neck guitar in hand, there was no doubt that the attempt was a successful one. The rather gentle song (as Zep songs go) paved the way…
[To be continued]
....Thank you! thousand flowers blossom in heart of hearts!!
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http://www.dailyo.in/arts/led-zeppelin-stairway-to-heaven-jimmy-page-british-rock-robert-plant-kashmir-musical-rip-offs/story/1/10083.html
Led Zeppelin's Stairway To Heaven: Where there's music, there's the rip-off
Eventually, like pornography, you can't define it but you know it when you see it.
The song starts in a slow tempo with Jimmy Page's fragile guitar riff. Then begin Robert Plant's thin and raspy vocals: "There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold, and she's buying a stairway to heaven".
It moves into a sensual wave with the twin 12-strings and the electric piano. The drums come in and, two verses later, the guitar solo begins with a huge fanfare. Everything's flying at this point. There's a hysterical trill at the end of the solo that leads into the finale. It's like an orgasm at the end!
I met Jimmy Page and Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin in Mumbai in November 1996. We talked about their music and two songs in particular - "Stairway to Heaven" and "Kashmir". With a huge amount of patience and extraordinary warmth, as well as an indulgent arm around the shoulder, they responded to my queries. If they were bemused by my 40-going-on-14 fevered behaviour, they didn't show it. Probably deal with it a lot!
The writer with Jimmy Page and Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin in 1996. The two were in India to receive the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Channel V Music Awards show. Later, at the show, they played their song "Rock and Roll" along with Queen's Roger Taylor on drums and our own Remo Fernandes on bass.
Little did I know that 20 years later, the most recognisable opening riff on the planet would be tainted by accusations of a rip-off?
On April 8 this year, a US district court decided the British band's "Stairway to Heaven" had enough similarities to the previously composed song "Taurus" by the lesser-known band Spirit to merit a jury trial for copyright infringement. The trial is set for May 10, 2016.
It was argued that Page and Plant stole the riff while touring with Spirit in the late 1960s.
Led Zeppelin perform 'Stairway to Heaven'. "While it is true that a descending chromatic four-chord progression is a common convention that abounds in the music industry, the similarities here transcend this core structure," the judge wrote.
This is not the first time that the band has been accused of plagiarism. The beginning and end of their "Bring It on Home" sounds similar to American blues singer Willie Dixon's song "Bring It on Home". "Lemon Song" has some of the same lyrics as Chicago blues singer Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor". In the '90s they lost the case to Wolf. "Black Mountainside" has a similar melody to Scottish folk singer Bert Jansch's "Black Waterside".
Their "Dazed and Confused" is an uncredited cover of American singer Jake Holmes's "Dazed and Confused". Holmes filed a lawsuit against Led Zeppelin in 2010, 40 years after the record was released. The suit was dropped two years later, likely in a settlement. They were sued in 1985 by Willie Dixon for "Whole Lotta Love", and they ultimately gave the co-writing credit to Willie Dixon. Why only Led Zeppelin, there are a whole lot of marquee singers/bands who have been also accused of the same crime. George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" was the subject matter of a copyright infringement suit in 1970, due to its similarity to the 1963 hit song "He's So Fine", composed by Ronald Mack and recorded by the Chiffons. Harrison, however, claimed to have used the out-of-copyright "Oh Happy Day", a Christian hymn, as his inspiration for the song's melody. Harrison explained that in December 1969, he was playing a show in Copenhagen with the group Delaney and Bonnie. Harrison said that he started writing the song when he began vamping some guitar chords, fitting the chords around the words "Hallelujah" and "Hare Krishna".
In 1976, the court held that Harrison had subconsciously plagiarised the earlier tune.
The iconic song "Hotel California" of the Eagles is also not without controversy. A chord sequence in the song is similar to the one used in Jethro Tull's "We Used To Know". The Eagles were the opening band for Tull during their US Tour in the early 70s. Ian Anderson of Tull generously concedes that the Eagles heard Tull play the song, picked up the chord sequence subconsciously, and introduced it into their song "Hotel California" sometime later. Ian stated that even though the song used the same chord sequence, it was in a different time signature, different key, different context, and wasn't plagiarism. Ian said he, in fact, felt flattered.
The Beach Boys' "Surfin' USA" and Chuck Berry's "Sweet Little Sixteen" are very similar. "Surfin' USA" was originally listed with Brian Wilson as the sole composer, but after people heard the two songs, rights were quickly given to Chuck Berry.
Radiohead were successfully sued by songwriters Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood over similarities between their song "The Air That I Breathe" - a 1973 hit for The Hollies - and Radiohead's "Creep".
Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" was hugely influenced by Madonna's hit "Express Yourself". Madonna did not make a claim; however, she called Gaga "reductive" and performed a mash-up of the two songs on her tour, with the song culminating with lines from a song called "She's Not Me" - a song about Madonna being emulated by someone else.
Coldplay's hit 2008 song "Viva La Vida" saw them under fire from the legendary guitarist Joe Satriani (whose concert I had the good fortune to see in Mumbai in May, 2005), who alleged that the track had substantially borrowed from his song "If I Could Fly". While the band denied it, and the case was dismissed - suggesting that it was purely coincidental, Coldplay have been known to take influence from songs before. "In My Place" referenced Ride's "Dreams Burn Down" and "Fix You" had substantial echoes of Elbow's "Grace under Pressure".
Members of British group Killing Joke claimed that the main guitar riff for Nirvana's seminal "Come As You Are" was stolen from their song "Eighties".
And so it goes on and on. If we talk about Hindi film music, the instances of plagiarism will constitute a thick compendium and would need a series of articles. But that's another day.
Music has only 12 notes, so at some point there is bound to be some resemblance. It's difficult to find a chord sequence that hasn't been used, and hasn't been the focus of lots of pieces of music. Harmonic progression lends itself to a mathematical certainty you're going to crop up with the same thing sooner or later if you sit strumming a few chords on a guitar.
A poster of Led Zeppelin's Stairway To Heaven. So how does one distinguish between "inspiration" and a "copy"? Some would say you have to look at the sheet music. But that isn't decisive because it depends how you are performing those notes or how you are phrasing those notes and what the rhythm is. Some other yardsticks could be -does the new work substantially copy the prior work; does the new work apply the original in a different way; or does the new work have a substantial portion of new, original material - musically and lyrically.
Eventually, like pornography, you can't define it but you know it when you see it. And it is common people like you and me who need to make that determination, not experts.
"Stairway to Heaven" ends with -
"And if you listen very hard,
the tune will come to you at last;
When all are one and one is all,
to be a rock and not to roll".
As long as there is music, "the tune (that) will come to you at last" will either be original work, or a subconscious inspiration, or a deliberate rip-off. Be that as it may, whatever be the final ruling by the court, the planet's love affair with "Stairway" will continue unabated.
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....With you Robert, Jimmy, Jason, John Paul Jones, all moments in the Divine Universe happen for a reason, Magnificient Legacy of Led Zeppelin will shine always, a reminder it is for us for Greed of Material Wealth and its' purpose, this is all it is...it is a moment in time, it will pass, like all of the others, James Patrick Page you will remain ruling the hearts of every generation around the world, as you always have....no worries!!
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Happy Birthday James Patrick Page! Wishing you, John Paul Jones, Robert and Jason the very best...You are always loved and loved, so happy to see you out and about, wonderful reminder, Jimmy! Very proud to own your music legacy, all of the albums, so proud to call my own!! and all of my friends here Deborah, Strider, SAJ, I do think of you, all of you...thanks for such warm company here...
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....Maaike, thank you for posting those photos for me..always a journey into beautiful Universe beyond this world!! The last photo from 75, the Egyptian Popyrus, my next venture..!!
..and Ross62, Jimmy so Charismatic and totally himself, in LF...
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Timeless Echoes of youth'77 Jimmy!
..."Flowers Blossom in the Gardens, when you and I meet in the deserts" - A. Bakshi'75
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...many worlds remain beyond the Stars, and Love, your devotion shall remain endless, as the Universe itself!!...Iqbal
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Thank you PlanetPage for keeping us up-to-date.
,,,you welcome Maaike; I think Jimmy must Visit Sri Lanka; I would love to see photos of Jimmy actually in Sri Lanka, and so many fans over there that I know would be elated, they love him!!
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...and the closing of the Gathering ... a review from Royston Ellis...
Royston Ellis and Jimmy Page last night!
Msg from Sir Roy:Dear Miriam:
You’ll be happy to learn that it was standing room only at both events in London on Friday!
At the Kings Head, I was interviewed by a very competent chap (former musician) for nearly an hour and that was captured on film for the Woodies Archive - while the audience packed into the small upstairs room, watched. Then I signed books, including about 15 for a book collector who had come over especially from Northern Ireland. I announced the publication that day of Big Time, and presented the first copy to the organiser, Keith Woods.
The Poetry Cafe event, arranged by Hylda Quayle (singer of the skiffle/blues group New City Ramblers, who began playing in 1956) was amazing! It was held in the cellar under the Poetry Cafe with five poets from the floor reading one poem each, a skiffle performance, interval, and then 30 minutes of me reading a selection of poems from Gone Man Squared. We sold more GMS there (as well as two to Jimmy Page.) Yes Jimmy was there in full support, which astonished the old rock fans. As well as the usual suspects, there were people from Sri Lanka, Andorra, and even the USA. Hylda told me they have never had such a large crowd at a poetry evening. I even got paid a portion of the entrance fee - enough to buy a special English pub lunch tomorrow, Sunday.
Now recovering - shopping - eating British food - and preparing to return to Sri Lanka (and sanity) on Tuesday.
Beat regards
Royston Ellishttps://www.facebook.com/miriam.linna?fref=ts
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...another photo of Jimmy and Royston from their poetic journey...the memorable night...
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photo: N. Jayantha
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...."The Heart of Led Zeppelin"...Happy Birthday, our Beloved Musician!!
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....Jimmy at Royston Ellis Poetry Reading, May 29th, London Poetry Cafe/Society...
Jimmy with Friends....Photos in this link ...
https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoystonEllis?src=hash
...From Gone Man Squared, the Poems...Book Forward from "James Patrick Page"
...More Photos in this Link....
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I have a detailed review of their Cleveland appearance on April 25, 1968 at the Palace Theatre.
Lineup: Blue Cheer, Traffic & Yardbirds.
The Guess Who gig could possibly have been late 1967.
..apologies for format... this from Legendary Randy Bachman, from His most recent book "Tales From Beyond The Tap"
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....I will look at microfilm Winnipeg Free Press at later date....
...more of this recollection from Legendary Buron Cummings.....
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Video of the The Rain Song by Warren Mendonsa/Blackstratblues and Led Zeppelin artwork silk screen from 70's and The Firm Photographs....w/tks to Kimber John Bakke for confirmation of his concert photos..
https://www.facebook.com/Blackstratblues/videos/vb.34586438561/10152865507088562/?type=2&theater
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Wall High Spirit Cafe, Pune/India - Artist: Adarsh Balak
For years, Led Zeppelin have been accused of lifting parts of Jimmy Page’s intro of Stairway to Heaven from another song. (Source: Andrew Smith)
Photo of Led Zepplin – (L-R) John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Bonham – posed, group shot, sitting on car bonnet – first photo session with WEA Records in London in December 1968. (Photo by Dick Barnatt/Redferns)
Led Zeppelin in Las Vegas?
in Led Zeppelin Live
Posted · Edited by PlanetPage
additional detail:
Remain indebted to Ms. Su Kim Chung for sending us this additional confirmation from Las Vegas Review Journal from April, 1970, that further confirms previous August 7, 1969 appearance by "LZ" at Ice Palace...
Thank you Ms. Su Kim Chung!!
August 9, 1969 Fabulous Magaine Ms. Chung confirms is Not in UNLV archives. A photo from ebay (sold out)
and MikeZep, thank you for such wonderful contribution and sorry for late response...
**Mike I just wanted to add detail that reason for curfew being extened to midnight on weeknight August 7, 1969 Thursday - Bylaw - during summer months, there is no school, otherwise school night, 10:00 pm.... Ike and Tina Turner at Casino Lounge appear 10th Window, from 4:00 p.m. to 5:00 am as stated in the listing above...ofcouse, thinking of Legendary "John Paul Jones, and our Beloved Road Manager, The Great "Richard Cole"....