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That's too bad, MSG, as Silver Rider is spot on...their pancakes hit the spot. At that time, the only other places in LA with better pancakes was Du-Par's and Ben Franks.
I was always too nervous/excited to eat...and I wouldn't have wanted Robert or Jimmy to walk in and catch me with my mouth full of pancakes.
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Understandably. And even without a ticket, I couldn't go home while Zeppelin was playing a concert. So the Hyatt became a very sensible option. Their coffee shop had great pancakes with maple syrup and that was all I needed.
I was only there for a few days as I wasn't a local or a "regular." I do remember it well and fondly despite the fact that my friends and I felt as if we had been delivered into some sort of Fellini-esque universe. Unfortunately, I never had a chance to sample the pancakes.
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If I had a ticket for that night I would have stayed for the encore. But it made more sense to head back to the Hyatt early on that night.
Ah, but our feeling was: what are a couple of encore songs compared to seeing the Zep guys up close, flush with a post-concert high?
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Okay, this is a CALL-OUT, a plea to Silver Rider, Hotplant, MadScreamingGallery, or ANYONE that was at the June 3, 1973 LA Forum concert.
It may have got lost in the shuffle in all that grey, but there was a question buried in my review post. As my attention was focused elsewhere at the time, what happened during Thank You that caused that second huge roar?
Anybody who was there have any idea? Did Silver Rider streak across the stage?
No, I was probably either hanging out in the parking lot of the Forum and/or at the Hyatt on June 3rd.
Sorry, I can't help you with that Strider - as with Silver Rider, by 1973 we had learned to leave the venues early, before the encores, so we could race back to the hotels in order to be there before the Zep guys arrived.
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Hi MSG - I admit to having no idea! Is there a specific thing about the event that would trigger a memory if I was to ask him - feel free to message me if you don't want to freely discuss xx
Hi Knebby, thanks for your response. I'll message you with a couple of details. He may not remember the night as important or significant, though...but for my friends and me it was a memorable event. xo
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All I can provide is it would have had to have been after the first (Fri) or second (Sat) show. Ahmet Ertegun hosted a party at the Carlyle Hotel immediately following the third MSG concert (Sunday), presenting gifts and gold record awards for 'Houses of the Holy'.
Thanks Steve.
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Hi Knebby, a "trainspotterish" sort of question... but...do you know if it was John Magnet who went to a club with Jimmy and Robert after one of their 1973 MSG shows? My friend and I still say it was John M. (and no other Zep guys) who was there with Jimmy and Robert but someone else insists it was John Bonham... Thanks.
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....MSG, you are deserving of every gracious comment. Should there be any further developments with any additional photos, I will stay in touch with you and the fans -
Old Taj late 70's (The one Richard likes), Thanks MSG for sending this photo...
Thanks again, PlanetPage - for your compliment and for including me in this process. I have other photos of Bombay of that same vintage, but not many as we spent less time in Bombay than in any other city or region of India. I think this might be the only one I have of the Taj (and one of the old black and yellow taxis). I'm sure the area has changed greatly. Again, I really enjoyed Sidarth's article as well as the process of seeing it all come together.
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Thanks for your friendship Ally. MSG is indeed great friend. She was always there to provide great contacts, assistance whenever I was unsure of things....
Here is the article written by Sidarth Bhatia, journalist from Mumbai during this archival search, a great story he felt;
Sidarth responded to my original inquiry of search of photos and he became interested in Led Zeppelin. He was a young freshman in college in '72 when Zep arrived in Bombay,
Sidarth informs me that he wrote this article for the "young generation" in India who are not familiar with "those" times, they do know Led Zeppelin, but the visit of '72 was indeed magical...
Time out Magazine - Various State Editions throughout India;
http://www.timeoutba...de=154&source=4
MSG - Thank you again, you made this article very special, your willingness to assist the writer with great contacts truly acknowledge.......
Wonderful article, PlanetPage! I think Sidarth did a great job with the resources that were available to him. I really enjoyed reading this - I thought it was well-written and, in addition to learning about LZ's trip, it brought back my own memories of India, the old Taj hotel and Bombay (before it became Mumbai). I'm sure the younger LZ fans in India will enjoy and be interested in reading about LZ's 1972 trip to India.
Thank you for your gracious comments, PlanetPage. It was my pleasure to be involved in this process - and I am delighted at the final result. I look forward to talking with you again soon.
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Great work PlanetPage! Thank you.
Sam, I can attest to the great work PlanetPage did on this project. It hasn't been easy but she was remarkable in her persistence and willingness to research, confirm dates/places and then track down people who could visit the archives. I've worked in India and been involved in research of a different kind there and I know firsthand how incredibly difficult (and often frustrating) it is to do in person, nevermind from the other side of the world.
..........Fellow Zep Fans, here are The Photos/articles which finally have come to light since Fall of Last year.
I sincerely want to thank foremost our Webmaster, Sam, for providing such wonderful forum for Led Zeppelin fans around the world.....
Thanks to Ms. Radha Nair, Writer, Pune, India for her encouragment (I gave up!!) that I should pursue my passion, it is fruitful indeed. It is her prayers that connected me to many writers/journalists who further the cause each step of the way to present....
Writer/Journalist Sidarth Bhatia from Bombay who assisted in archives from Bombay...
A Big Thanks to our Veteran Forum Member MadScreamingGallery, MSG - Thank you for your friendship through this challenging archival process. Your friendship is truly noted in hearts of hearts, thank you!!!
..and Vinayak Razdan, New Delhi expert who assisted to search for any copies of lost Junior Statesman Issues and many other archival publications. There are none Junior Statesman (JS) to be found. Only one issue exists...and that leads me to The Statesman, Kolkatta, archives.
Very sincere thanks to Mr. Prasanto Banerjee, Assistant Editor of The Statesman, Calcutta for making these highly restricted archives to public available!!! These archives of Junior Statesman resided in a warehouse of Calcutta since the war of '71, Zep's first visit to India...
...finally I post the photos with this thought "Life is too short" ...........
Thank you so much for bringing this to light, PlanetPage! The LZ guys' time in India, for many reasons, holds a special interest for me so it's fascinating for me to read this article and see these beautiful photos. I've enjoyed every minute of our correspondence and thank you so much for your friendship and trusting me with the information as it was revealed. I'm going to take more time to reread this piece and look at the photos again...we'll talk soon.
Thank you PlanetPage. I'm very happy all of your hard work paid off
Thanks to MSG as well
Thanks Ally but all the credit here goes to PlanetPage.
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Thanks for that information, yahyoubetcha.
You were fortunate to get those tickets for that small venue. Two years ago we tried but weren't successful - we'd still love to see Jeff again and a small venue would be especially nice.I wrote this nearly three years ago and since then have seen Jeff twice (soon to be three times) in less than a year at smaller venues. I never expected it to happen and I rarely thought about it...but it did happen...and Jeff was consistently brilliant.
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We hear that this is also true of Page and Plant--would that their fans responded the same way!
I may be totally misremembering this, but didn't one of his parents (his mother?) invent White-out? I seem to remember he was independently wealthy even back in the Monkees' first incarnation.
Although Mike's mother, as the inventor of Liquid Paper, ultimately became very wealthy, during Mike's years with the Monkees her business was just beginning to become successful. She made her fortune when she sold her own company to a large corporation (P&G?) in the late 1970s. It was only after her death (very early 1980s, I think) that Mike inherited half her fortune - she left the other half to various philanthropic organizations. Mike is also very involved in philanthropy and has been a supporter of the arts (including film).
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Seems like I heard or read something about this recently...Nesmith wants no part of it if I'm not mistaken. For that matter, has he ever taken part in any of these reunions?
Mike has been involved in his own projects (music and film). He is independently wealthy and can pick and choose where, when and with whom he wants to play. I just saw him last month play a short gig (acoustic set) in Austin (not far from the Lucky Lounge). He made no mention of reuniting with any of the Monkees and I think he has distanced himself from them.
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Eric Clapton with John Mayall- I'm Your Witchdoctor/Telephone Blues (Produced by Jimmy Page 9/22/65)
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=TCo-DUBSD98
Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton is one of my favorite albums. I love John Mayall and still think that Clapton/Mayall collaboration was brilliant.
I have an ever-lasting fondness for Clapton and his work - I still catch every concert of his that I can as (like Beck) he often changes musicians and set lists. And, I've been fortunate that two of his recent concerts focused on the blues and were in (for Clapton) relatively small venues of 10,000 and less.
I was recently going through some of my own old concert photos and found one from his "comeback" tour - I had forgotten how gaunt and haggard and tenuous EC looked behind his large sunglasses (and in my photo, he is alone)...the next photo I have (from a year or two later) shows him without the glasses, looking so much more comfortable and relaxed, fit and healthy, with his shirt open. The last one (from a year or so after that) shows him looking confident and relaxed on stage. Then I found some of my photos from the ARMS concerts and Jimmy is the one who is taking the first tenuous steps back to performing live, looking gaunt, surrounded by his fellow musicians, including Eric, who is right next to him.
The sweetest recent photo I've seen of Eric is the one taken by Nettie Baker - it shows Eric, Ginger and Charlotte Martin all laughing together (although Ginger is wearing an oxygen mask).
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Well, today was a pretty incredible day. I found out that I have been accepted into the B.Com (Honours) programme at the University of Auckland and quite frankly, I can't believe it!!!
My major is going to be Economics. It's pretty much a dream come true! There is going to be a lot of hard work involved, but I love a challenge when I see it! I say "Bring It On"! Congratulations to you Kiwi_Zep! My major was and undergrad degree is in Economics too! It's a fascinating subject and a great degree to have as far as career and grad school. Best of Luck to you!
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I've only seen photos of Jimmy wearing the SS outfit from the Chicago 77 show and on the Starship. There's also photos of Jimmy on the Starship wearing lighter-brown jodphurs and a bomber jacket but no SS cap.
And, sorry, but I've got to clarify something. People talk about the 73 cosmic pants or the 75 black dragon suit as if that was his standard outfit for those tours.
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
Let's start with the 1973 US tour. For most of the tour, Jimmy's outfit rotated among these choices: 1) plain white suit with dress shirt or t-shirt underneath; 2) brocaded jacket with blue jeans(he wore the exact same thing in 1972 at the LA Forum...only difference was that in 1972 he wore white sneakers and in 1973 he had changed to his iconic slip on dress shoes); and 3) some type of zippered windbreaker jacket with the white suit pants or blue jeans.
From all the evidence, it appears that he wore the "cosmic outfit"(not to be confused with the black dragon suit) only at the end of the tour in New York. And while he wore the pants at all three shows, it seems that he wore two different tops during the 3 nights in NY...the brocaded top and the spangly jacket with the silver lapels.
This suggests that Jimmy, knowing that they were going to film the NY shows, wanted something a little more visually spectacular to wear, and whether it was his lady friend Coco in LA or some other person handy with needle and thread, the outfit apparently wasn't ready until New York.
Strider, there are some of us here on the board who were at many of the '73 shows so while we may be familiar with the different outfits Jimmy wore (on and off stage) I think younger fans or fans who are new to the band speak only of the "73 cosmic" pants because those seem to have become iconic in that, for a long time, most of the photos (and film footage) circulating of JP during the '73 tour showed him in those pants. I think the same may hold true for the '75 tour.
On the '73 tour, Robert and Jimmy had a couple of young women (college age) with them in NY and they worked on some of the LZ guys outfits (sewing appliques, etc.), including Jimmy's suit. They seemed more like "hippie girls" - they were separate from and slightly older than the groupies (and neither of them was Coco).
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Any particular songs you can hear ?? or what would turn into a zep masterpiece ??
Hi Leddy, well, of course, the obvious - an early version of Dazed and Confused. And, White Summer. But beyond those, I especially loved Pagey's playing on Avron Knows and his bowing of his guitar on I'm a Man. His flamenco acoustic guitar playing on Spanish Blood is beautiful.
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A couple of years after this thread was started my husband and I bought Cumular Limit. I actually play this now more than my other Yardies albums/CDs. As I wrote somewhere else, "not only do I love all the tracks, throughout I can hear glimmers of the magic that Jimmy would bring to LZ - his playing on some of the pieces (for example, Spanish Blood) is off this planet".
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I Finally Get to see .......JEFF BECK!!!!!
Couldn't help my excitement!!!!
And OMG, it's at a smaller venue....shhhhh.....
Don't have to travel, don't have to get a hotel...I'm SO happy!!
Hotplant, that's fantastic! Jeff is AMAZING live - you will LOVE his show. I've only seen him in smaller venues too and he really does interact (in his own reserved way) with the audience. I'm seeing him again in a couple of months - I'll PM you...maybe we'll be at the same show.
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Yeh the footage on DVD is good of the shows although in my mind Roberts face sometimes show strain, as though he had or started to move on, maybe thats just me as hindsight and what happened a year later etc.
What was it like hearing "Hot Dog" for the first time I wonder ??
It is good footage. I attributed the strain that sometimes showed on Robert's face, not to being "old" or "tired" (of Zep) but to the deep and tremendous pain and loss over his little son's death.
I don't know how the audience at Knebworth reacted when they heard "Hot Dog" for the first time. I actually liked the way Jimmy played the guitar on that.
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The Dragon suits were designed by an LA designer named CoCo.
Do you have proof of this, or some sort of source? I really don't mean to be a dick, but that's a little meager.
To make it even more meager, someone recently told me that the woman's real name wasn't Coco - that was her nickname, after the designer Coco Chanel.
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Why was there such a long delay between Knebworth and the 80 Tour? Wasn't there talk of additional UK shows towards the end of 79? I would think that smaller scale UK shows would have fit in with Roberts desire not to be away from his family, but nothing materialised. Was there discord in the band after the Knebworth (perceived) debacle?
The band didn't perceive it as a debacle, they loved it. Robert did have a newborn son at the time so that should be taken into consideration
I remember reading discussions about the Knebworth concerts on the old board and seeing posts by people (who were not there) who called the shows an "embarrassment" - for some reason, I kept some of these posts including a couple where someone described the band members as "old" and "tired" at Knebworth. I wasn't at the concert but someone who did attend all three (?) shows told me they were fantastic and the band was energetic and really seemed to enjoy playing there. He sent me a vid of one (or maybe a compilation) of all the shows and it gave me a completely different impression of Knebworth - I didn't see "old", "tired" or an "embarrassment". I saw a lot of joy and energy. "Hot Dog" - the one where Robert is moving with his hands on his hips and Jimmy is picking and plucking and sliding across the stage always makes me smile.
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Curious thing is... before the Dallas show on May 18, 1973, my father, a commercial airline pilot, flying in and out of Dallas Love Field, remarked to me that he "saw your group's plane at the airport". What I do not now know is if he saw The Starship, or another plane that might have had "Zeppelin" painted on it.
I do know that Dallas Love Field had hangers big enough to work on planes the size of the Starship. Perhaps the Starship was at Love Field to have something done to it, before Zeppelin took it over. Does anyone where the Starship was prepped for Zeppelin's use of it in 1973?
I like this story and how your father called LZ "your group." Was the Falcon jet painted with LZ's name? Maybe that's what your father saw. I don't know where the Starship was prepped for Zep's '73 use of it but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it was painted and retrofitted inside at one of the Dallas Love Field hangers. If so, your father would have been one of the first to see the Starship taking off (and heading to Chicago?) with the new LZ name on it.
Haven't heard the names Du-Par's or Ben Franks in years (classic mid century LA space age architecture). 
If I had a ticket for that night I would have stayed for the encore. But it made more sense to head back to the Hyatt early on that night.
My major is going to be Economics. It's pretty much a dream come true! 
There is going to be a lot of hard work involved, but I love a challenge when I see it! I say "Bring It On"! 
Strider Takes His GF To Led Zeppelin And Loses Her To Robert.
in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
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It was a chaste handshake.