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  1. Hello, I was at the Led Zepplin concert in San Diego of 1975. As I remember Jimmy Page was introducing songs off of their soon to be released album Physical Graffiti. But I looked up the dates and they are in reverse, was anyone there and remember the dates? Please do not use Wikipedia for the reference, they are the discrepancy that I am referring to.

    I agree, wikipedia should be boycotted:


  2. Rock superstar and lifelong Led Zeppelin fan, Dave Grohl, celebrates a man who the Encyclopedia Britannica describes as "the perfect model for all hard rock drummers that have followed."

    Good to see people using a real encyclopedia and not that dishonest one called wikipedia, run by pedophiles.

  3. The article is essentially a personal attack on Jimmy Page under the pretext of 'alternate history'. The author is not a fan of the band, his musical tastes are listed elsewhere on the website, and his lack of knowledge shows. Maybe dazedcat would like an alternate history article written about him being found dead, no?

  4. A number of problems with that alternate history article and here are some major ones:

    "This led vocalist Robert Plant, bassist John Paul Jones, and tour manager Benji LeFevre to convene in late 1980 at Plant’s home in England to discuss the band’s future."

    It would never have happened. There would have been no band meeting to discuss the future without Page and Grant present. In 1980, the tour manager was Phil Carlo, not Benji LeFevre.

    "Page was becoming most despondent and more absent, often disappearing for days before showing up to rehearsals looking, as Plant later put it, “ragged and three-times warmed over.” Plant said, “

    would be next to worthless at rehearsals. Missing notes, forgetting rhythms, sometimes forgetting whole songs. We had to remind him what key and John [Paul Jones] would have to play the start to remind Jimmy how it went.”

    Led Zeppelin rehearsed at Clearwater Castle, Forest of Dean, Wales in May 1978 for the ITTOD sessions. Plant never made such comments.

    "After much deliberation between Plant and Jones, and through the advice of LeFevre and encouragement of Bonham, Plant and Jones decided to keep Page on as guitarist, but insisted that he get some help."

    LeFevre but not Peter Grant? Highly unlikely.

    "After spending a good part of the fall of 1980 in rehab, both Bonham and Page returned to rehearsals just after Christmas."

    A North American tour was scheduled to kick off in October 1980, and Page and Bonham, weren't in rehab during the fall, so that scenario would not have happened.

    "Page came away feeling slighted and pushed out of the songwriting during recording. He told friend Eric Clapton that Jones and Plant had “let it all go to their heads,” and that they were going to “drive [Led Zeppelin] into the ground if they [didn't] get a clue soon.”

    That is something Page would not have told Eric.

    "Awake and Levitate was released in July 1981."

    With their North American tour schedule, this July 1981 release date is highly improbable, given they hadn't been recording anything new since the ITTOD sessions prior to leaving for the tour.

    "its first single, “Ramblin’”, stayed at number one on the Billboard 200 for four weeks."

    With Grant still at the helm, it's doubtful that even in 1981, Led Zeppelin would have released an *official* single in the US. Btw the singles chart in 1981 was called the Hot 100. Billboard 200 is an *albums* chart, which was named much later - a big error there.

    "Led Zeppelin was also seeing its success start to take a hit from the rising punk rock movement in Britain. The music press was starting to lean away from big arena rock like Zeppelin, and more to the DIY music of The Clash and The Ramones"

    Punk music by 1981 was already on the way out. 1981 was when synth-pop bands (eg. Yazoo, Human League) and the New Romantics (eg. Duran Duran) started briefly dominating the pop charts. The Clash and The Ramones already had press coverage by 1978, so it was nothing new by 1981. PS. The Clash and The Ramones were already signed to major labels by 1981, they were no longer DIY. There was still a niche for arena bands, just ask Foreigner who scored major hits and sell-out crowds during this period.

    "so Benji and I busted in and started banging pots and pans to wake Jimmy up. That’s when Benji found him in his bed.”"

    Page's partner Charlotte Martin, his daughter Scarlet, or his driver Rick Hobbs hadn't found him first??

    "Rumors had circulated that Page’s friend Eric Clapton or The Who guitarist Pete Townshend would join Led Zeppelin on the next tour"

    Of all the guitarists, these two guitarists definitely wouldn't join Led Zeppelin, ever. Clapton and Townshend were not fans of Led Zeppelin.

    "Bonham had brief success touring with The Who on its reunion tour and subsequent reunion album, Back Again."

    By 1981, Townshend was growing tired of touring with the Who and was already making moves into a solo career. It's doubtful they would have stuck around with Bonham, instead of Kenny Jones behind the kit. If anything Bonham would have stayed with his mate Robert Plant in any new project.

    "At their Hall of Fame induction in 1995, the remaining members assembled together on one stage again. Joined by Eric Clapton on guitar"

    Clapton avoided appearing at the Hall of Fame induction for the Yardbirds, what makes you think he will appear for Led Zeppelin in 1995? In real life, Aerosmith appeared at the ceremony not Clapton.

    "Finally in 2004, Plant, Jones, and Bonham all reunited for a set at the Glastonbury Festival in the U.K. Joined by Eric Clapton, Pete Townshend, and Jack White of The White Stripes, the band played its first full set in over 20 years."

    Clapton and Townshend would have dropped out beforehand knowing the spotlight would have been on the remaining members, not the festival.

    "Page and Plant, together one last time. This photo was taken a week before the guitarist's ill-fated death."

    There are photos of Jimmy from 1982, and this one from the much later Page and Plant era was the best you could come up with? Not even trying.

  5. I think Roger means exactly what he said: he would like to do a BLUES album with Jimmy, and sing on it as a blues singer. That's not to say Jimmy would like to do it, but Roger obviously would. So this is just an idea for a project completely outside the frame of either Led Zeppelin or The Who. Roger's interest in the idea may actually be not unrelated to how his voice has developed, and it might actually sound quite well. If I have doubts about it, that's just because reading the recent interviews I don't think this is where Jimmy is headed with his new music.

    I agree with you Otto. I think it's unlikely it will happen. Maybe Roger might do one guest appearance on a Page track. Back in the 1970s, Page guested on Roger's song 'There Is Love'.

  6. Richard Skinner: I'll tell you one thing's for sure - the old Zeppelin sound is certainly enjoying a big revival at the moment. It's not only your records, but ones recorded by bands that sound exactly like Led Zeppelin too. I hope you're still getting royalties from those old recordings!

    Robert Plant: No. No. I'd like to think I was - but like every reluctant hero I sold my rights years ago, mate. (chuckles) Uh yes. It's quite flattering to see that and try not to be stunned by it, really.

    He did not need to sell his rights though. Royalties are an artists 'bread and butter', even when you go broke or bankrupt. This decision was made in the early 80s when Plant deliberately distanced himself from that Zeppelin sound and look (before he decided to change back again with Now and Zen in 1988). If it wasn't for his solo career, he would be struggling. I don't believe he realised on how resilient the group brand is and that Led Zeppelin would go on to turn over revenue with reissues, CD sales, and box-sets. He doesn't get a cent in royalties and in fact has to pay the new owner of the songs, even though he co-wrote most of them (similar situation with Paul McCartney's Beatles songs - he actually has to pay someone else each time he performs them).

  7. I was about to say...

    The whole article seemed a little fishy anyway.

    We've so far had only Joe Perry's version on what went on. I'd like to hear something from Tyler for his side of the story. Obviously if Tyler is going off and leaving Perry behind, Perry is more than likely to saying something negative about it.

  8. In the bookshop I frequent, there is a small red covered compilation entitled The Little Red Riders Book by author Steve Lamacq, published by Portico. A cursory flick through it to see whether Led Zeppelin was represented, and yes they were. Listed for their rider is 'An ironing board and iron'. No other references were provided for such a statement.

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