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  1. On 1/30/2022 at 7:59 AM, Electrophile said:

    The only song I really like from the "Peter Cetera Takes Over" era is If You Leave Me Now. Everything else just got too schlocky for me. The band died when Terry Kath did, and they really should have called it quits at that point. 

    "If You Leave Me Now" is sort of the song that killed Chicago IMO...Kath hated it, and grudgingly played bass on the live versions (like the horn section he wasn't even in the studio when Cetera cut the track with a lot of help from Jim Guercio). What pissed the rest of the band off about the song was how Cetera and Guercio more or less cut it on their own with minimal input from the others...Walt Parazaider made it sound like the first time he ever heard the song was on the radio, he didn't even know it was his band, let alone a track from the new album...ultimately "If You Leave Me Now" -though a good song, not a good Chicago song IMO- was the tune that pigeonholed them into becoming the ballad band they remained for the next fifteen years. 

    I mean, I get it: while most of the rest of the band by the mid seventies were getting increasingly fucked up on drugs and alcohol -particularly Terry Kath and Robert Lamm, who up to that point were the singing/songwriting backbone of the group- Peter Cetera kept his shit together for the most part while Kath and Lamm started sliding down, and started taking a more dominant role (VII was probably the big turning point), for which you really can't blame him, but it all started going to his head just a little too much...my interest in Chicago depends wholly on the involvement of Kath and Lamm (my two favourite members; Robert Lamm is one of my favourite singers of all time as well)

    I agree they really should have packed it in after Kath died, and in retrospect at least a couple of members of the group agreed (Lamm chief among them)...but they had to pay for those drug habits and ex wives etc somehow...so together they stayed, and morphed into a completely different band. Oh, it was tough in my house: my wife liked the 80's Chicago stuff and couldn't relate to the Kath era material at all, whereas I was the total opposite😂

  2. 4 hours ago, High-hopes Hailla said:

    Has anyone else heard the new (Fall 2021) Dogs of Doom release of this show--they call it an "upgrade"? I think it sounds better than my old TDOLZ silvers but can't really remember. In any case, D-of-D sounds pretty good given the source.

     

    The new DOD transfer for Pontiac is indeed an upgrade and a half, just like their upgrade of MSG 6/8/77 last year- the fresh transfers remove about seventeen layers of dust off those recordings.

  3. 6 hours ago, Zep Hed said:

    The feature of the '75 versions that make them worthwhile is the 3-man improvisation that follows JPJ's solo. The musicianship and synchronicity are out of this world. Take another listen to 18 May, Earls Court. Top notch!

    The West Coast March '75 "No Quarters" where Jones and Bonham send the jam off in a jazz direction are the best for '75 IMO, especially March 19 and 25th.

    6 hours ago, donb8 said:

    Cool perspective!

    ive never really listened to the 1977 versions...... beyond the listen to this eddie version...... so i guess i have work to do.

    You have to hear the 6/11/77 "No Quarter", absolutely killer version. There is NO bad version of "No Quarter".

  4. On 4/14/2021 at 11:00 AM, SteveZ98 said:

    "Evenings with Led Zeppelin" is the definitive book on their live career. For those of you who missed the first edition of this amazing book, a second edition is going to be released on September 23rd. It's currently available for pre-order on Amazon. I talked to Mike Tremaglio, one of the authors and a long time friend, about it recently and he said there will be 48 new pages and most of the existing pages have been updated. Even if you already have the first edition, this new one sounds like it will be worth picking up, and if you weren't able to get the first one, definitely make sure you get the second edition.

    https://www.amazon.com/Evenings-Led-Zeppelin-Complete-Chronicle/dp/1913172392

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    I so wanted Dave to do a book on the '77 tour along the lines of his book on the 1980 tour...I reckon this is as close as we're gonna get on that score, probably. Me want.

    On 4/14/2021 at 3:03 PM, jsj said:

    The stories behind the songs isn’t great really as many of their songs don’t have meanings as such and don’t have much depth. Some do obviously but many don't

    i think I’d suggest the Barney Hoskins book as the best all rounder 

    IMO those huge "Stories Behind The Songs" books -I've read the Zeppelin, Stones, Floyd and Beatles ones- are by and large terrible, okay to pass the time, I suppose, but not the most accurate tomes out there to say the least.

    No question, the Hoskyns Zep book is the one yet to be topped (I will always give a shout out to Keith Shadwick's book as well). Let's see how this upcoming Bob Spitz Zeppelin bio turns out, his Beatles book was excellent, probably the best all round straight biography on the group I've read (and I've probably read 'em all). I will imagine he'll give Zep the same treatment.

  5. 3 hours ago, Walter said:

    Just stopped by for the first time due to hearing about the Winterland show and WOW! 👀

    First, I’m sorry for the loss of your wife from cancer. That’s really a tough one. 

    Glad you got that motherf*cker to finally show his true colors. I know it’s been eating at you for a while. What a self-centered POS! 

    I’ll never understand the hoarding aspect. He said it’ll make them less valuable - than what, nothing?!?  Something is only as valuable as someone is willing to pay for it. I gotta believe the value for unheard Zep stuff isn’t as valuable as it was 10 years ago. The market is shrinking, due to natural causes...

    Peace to you, Nutrocker. ✌🏼 

    Cheers, Walter. You may recall a period a couple years back when I was more or less incommunicado within the community, that's when I was dealing with the missus. As for finally busting Zepster/AA, like I say, after all these years I feel vindicated now, feels pretty good!😄 And FWIW I don't buy a goddamn word about the shit AA is supposedly hoarding. Christ, he used to accuse me of hoarding Freezer's Baton Rouge '77 recording, now all of sudden he has it? I think not.

  6. 9 hours ago, ZepHead315 said:

    You literally just outed yourself as a shill and, from the looks of it, got yourself banned from the site as a result. Congratulations. This is a whole other level of shooting yourself in the foot.

    I'm sure AA/Zepster would look at it as falling on the sword rather than shooting himself in the foot...either way, after thirteen years of trying to get the bastard to come clean and out himself, I feel vindicated now. 

  7. 5 hours ago, zepster1979 said:

    To be honest with you, you fucker, I know most of the bootleggers personally. I've been visiting Japan three times and met all of them, listened to some very interesting stories of how that market has been working for years. I could supply them with lots of recordings I have in my possession but this is the last thing I would dream about 'coz once sold or shared, these tapes will be no longer as valuable as they are now.

    To tell you something more, I have Indy & Baton Rouge 77, as well as many other rare stuff and I can assure you that because of fact I haven't sold them out, I could get more uncirculated stuff instead. Simple as that.

    So, you cunt, you have absolutely no knowledge of how the things are going really. You're like a small boy, yelling "gimme more" all the time but nobody listen to you.

    What a sad, pathetic little man you are, AA. Absolutely NO justice in this world when cancer can take my wife yet an immoral, unethical shitbag like YOU still roams the Earth. At least I've gotten you to come clean and finally ADMIT yer nothing but a bootlegging shill. 

  8. 1 hour ago, Berliner said:

    Zepster or AA ... u will never understand what it means to do things without ur own profit. When i was ayoung man it was absolut fantastic to find a bootleg. I bought nearly 2000 or 3000. I don t know exactly how much... but i old them for 1-2 dollars because nobody wants it. Most collectors allready had the goods.... what a waste of time and money.... Today i have only one unofficial item. Let me tell u one thing from a guy who knows what it means. ... 

     

    To do things for free and share for free is a much better feeling as to make profit with selling these waist. I hope u r able to understand what i mean... 

     

    What u r doing is unethical!

    I really don't think AA/Zepster gives a fuck about ethics. He's been working with bootleg companies for years, decades, probably. It's just what he does, ain't gonna stop, all we can do is ignore the bootlegging bastard.

  9. 7 hours ago, zepster1979 said:

    I reported you to the admins for a false slander my person. It is not the first time I was attributed to that guy and I have enough.

    I also asked mods for further movements as I treated this as an unfair move and willing to get a full charges clearing from you.

    It ain't slander if it's true, AA- everybody here at .com, Royal Orleans and Dogs Of Doom KNOWS that "Zepster1979" and "Argenteum Astrum" are one and the motherfucking same! How long do you plan on keeping up this pathetic facade, AA? Does making money off of Led Zeppelin recordings really mean that much to you? Is it yer only source of income? Remember, pal, you've been on my personal shitlist for thirteen years for how you fucked up Freezer's Baton Rouge '77 tape coming out- if I live to be 100 I will never let you live that down. Give it up, yer alias isn't fooling ANYBODY. No matter what alias you post under, AA, yer name has been mud within the Zeppelin community for over a decade. WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

  10. On 1/20/2021 at 3:41 AM, Mikelangelo said:

    Those good old long jams. Bet you can't get away with those these days 😁 Like Allman Brothers' Mountain Jam etc.

    Or something like Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans tour, where EVERY song was an epic (the four Oceans pieces themselves are 20 mins each)...short attention spans need not apply! 

  11. Here's a fine version that came out in the last couple of years, matrixing the 'best' audience sources, plus the added bonus of the three soundboard tracks and a few selections from an alternate audience source:

    https://www.collectorsmusicreviews.com/led-zeppelin/led-zeppelin-pleeease-lord-fourth-night-at-the-garden-graf-zeppelin-lzsc-611a-b-c-d/

    6/11/77...best "No Quarter" of the entire fucking tour, in my not so 'umble opinion...

  12. 5 hours ago, Tainted cheese said:

    My apologies for veering slightly off topic, but what release of the 28 show is a good one,

    A few months back a fresh master transfer was made of the classic cut-in-between-songs 4/28/77 recording, overseen by Andy Winston (of Winston Remasters fame) himself. There is also an alternate source recording of the show that finally surfaced among the general public a year or so back (it was being hoarded up till then); the alternate is almost as good as the main source and is more complete (i.e. not cut between songs, has the ending of "No Quarter" etc). There's also a matrix version that uses the alternate to patch the main source...can't go wrong with any of those ones!

  13. On 12/4/2020 at 6:54 PM, Paulus said:

    Did the audience of that time find it cool and enjoyable?  The Star Wars movie had just come out on May 25th.

    I imagine the Noise Solos were kind of a "You had to be there" kind of thing (as eyewitnesses like Strider have said). Something definitely gets lost in translation when listening back on an audience tape fourty odd years after the fact.

    And yeah, "Star Wars" must have been huge in '77, Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson both started liberally throwing in "Star Wars" and "Close Encounters" quotes in some of their keyboard solos in that period.

  14. On 11/21/2020 at 11:22 AM, LedZep123 said:

    Damn man, where do you get all your information from?

    On 11/20/2020 at 8:42 PM, Strider said:

    As for the sunglasses, Jimmy opened every Forum show I saw with sunglasses and a scarf and they were usually gone by "Nobody's Fault But Mine".

    Strider was actually there, man, one of the lucky ones around these parts who doesn't just have to relive the tour vicariously through old recordings 43 years after the fact!

     

  15. It's what happens when you actually put in a little bit of legwork and digging, instead of just sitting round the forum discussing the merits of the LA '77 shows for the umpteenth time or arguing about what fucking blouse Plant was wearing on a given night😆 Stuff like this old film footage or audience tapes still popping up after all these years are what collectors like myself thrive on.

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