Gee, I can't imagine why.😅 Dave Lewis says as much in his Feather In The Wind book- said book is about as merciless when it comes to the 1980 tour as this discussion was! I doubt Berlin was a show about which the band were saying, "Good show tonight, lads" when it was over. Page knew he'd screwed the pooch more than once on the night.

June 11 for New York and June 27 for L.A.

June 27 '77 was one, yes?

I know no details beyond Freezer taping it. I have heard his '71 Allman Brothers recordings, which are pretty much the usual Freezer standard (as in excellent stereo sound etc), so if the '71 NOLA Zep show sounds anything like those...it's his '77 Baton Rouge recording that I'm holding out for- based on his other tapes from that era that fucking thing is probably on par with Millard's recordings.

Or a collection of John Paul Jones piano solos...and, yeah, just like a collection of drum solos I'd probably buy the JPJ piano collection as well. Shit, I'm surprised somebody didn't bootleg that collection I made a few years ago of all the 1977 "No Quarter" "Boogie Jams"...😆

On the one level the idea of blasting bootlegs recorded on the finest tin can and string money could buy on a state of the art system expecting some kind of Steely Dan-esque audio experience is laughable. Mind ya, I got a good system- a thirtysomething Sony console, turntable, graphic equalizer and all, with custom speakers: 6", 10" 14" in each (homemade cherrywood speaker cabinets!). Obviously Listen To This Eddie sounds fuckin' great (as do my old For Badgeholders Only LPs)...something like the Chicago April 10 1977 show? Er, not so much...some of those shitty sounding shows actually sound better on the old CD boombox I keep around to crank up on job sites than on my old stereo system, so you may just be on to something😆 I can't remember which version of Destroyer I have...it's old, it definitely predates any "Master Reel" version that circulates, it doesn't have that dry as a bone sound like the other '77 soundboards have. It sounds like an official live album, like, you can hear the audience and stuff, same cuts as on every other fucking version though...

Fixed it for you😆 Yet, oddly enough, I still prefer the sound of my old Destroyer boot which I suspect is vinyl sourced to Weed's Master Reel source.

Slumpy😆 I heard that thing, as I remember by the end of it was completely out of sync and sounded like a fuckin' mess...his Seattle '77 "matrix" isn't much better. Christ, those things are old now, fifteen years at least- better sources and technology have become available since to actually make better matrices of some of these shows possible.

Not so much remasters, per se, but a few years back I did lash together versions of the June 8, 10 and 13 MSG shows using the alternate sources as the basis and the more common sources to complete and patch the recordings. Now, of course, I can't the discs with either the raw individual sources I used (I would have put them up at the Den with this last batch I uploaded there) or the compilations, but I did put them up on Dime, I believe, back when I did them. I also gave copies to a few individuals here...

Nope, I've got it after all😅 It was in that old carousel of discs I found this weekend, where all those other '77 alternate sources I've been putting up at the Den came from...

😅BULLSHIT, "zepster1979", like I say, AA, you ain't foolin' anybody, either here or at RO.

I will gladly call you a bootlegger, repeatedly, as I have done for the last dozen or so years now, because that is EXACTLY what you are, AA. We outed you for yer TCOLZ shilling over at RO back in 2008, remember? I saved the fuckin' discussion thread for posterity, maybe I ought to post that motherfucker here for all the world to see, eh? QUIT TRYING TO PRETEND TO BE SOMEBODY OTHER THAN WHO YOU ARE- AA, THE "ZEPSTER1979" MONIKER AIN'T FOOLING ANYBODY, either here or at RO. You have had ZERO credibility within the Zeppelin community for over a decade, I don't know why you even bother participating anymore, you must be one of the biggest gluttons for punishment in the world. I will hound you for all eternity until you come clean and admit that it was YOU who fucked up everybody's opportunity to hear Freezer's Baton Rouge '77 and NOLA '71 tapes by telling the guys at TCOLZ the shows were coming out. Don't even try to deny it. Twelve fucking years later, and I'm STILL pissed about it. Same goes with Adam Harbaugh ("Javit") over at RO hoarding the Indianapolis '77 tape and then bragging to me about it...you two motherfuckers earned the wrath of the King Of '77, and I will never let either of you bastards or anyone else in this community forget it!

Thought I had it, but I didn't, a kind soul here has offered to send it to me. That said, you could spend a decade trying to clean up the sound of this recording and it'd still be a fuckin' coin toss.

Easily the best of the four nights. I'll probably give it a listen on Saturday😆

The taper of the Atlanta '77 actually posted in over at You Tube where the recording has been uploaded and basically said, "Yeah, I had the recorder on the floor, I was sixteen, young, dumb and high, whaddya want?"😆

I'm trying to track down the known 2nd gen version of the Atlanta tape to upgrade my old "How Many More Years Gone With The Wind" boot- I would presume the 2nd gen transfer is probably the best this show is gonna sound at this point...

I dig the alternate perspectives as well, which is why I've decided to undertake gathering up all the '77 alternate source recordings. Mind ya, a couple of 'em do sound like absolute shite- that "third source" for June 13, for example- practically unlistenable. A lot of them aren't complete, either. I've been going through my archives, sorting out what I have, what I don't have, what I thought I had but lost etc...and trying to gather up whatever I don't have. I actually played the May 26 audience tape this morning (master source transfer), actually ain't half bad sound quality, but the performance is still pretty iffy. And, yeah, the epic drum solos were my main reason for wanting to hear those shows, unfortunately they turned out to be the most boring, tedious drum solos I've ever heard John Bonham play. What a disappointment! Like I say, the May 26 audience tape is actually decent- the May 25 audience tape is the one where you can hardly make out any of the Plantations, it's that distant sounding. I've got May 28th, the old TDOLZ boot, where half the marathon drum solo is cut out😅 The May 30 tape is good once they turned the recording levels down after "The Song Remains The Same"- the sound actually reminds me of the classic April 28 "Oh Fuck!" source recording. I'll stick with the audience tapes playing the 28th and 30th later in the week...

That's why I haven't heard 'em in years. I just played the first disc of May 25 this morning, that was enough of that one...even the soundboard tapes don't sound all that hot.

Gawd help me, I'm going to try and give the Landover '77 shows a listen this week for the first time in years, probably😆 Played a bit of the May 25 soundboard this morning...even that performance seemed off, like the 26 and 28 are. What the hell happened in the three days between Fort Worth and Landover? Incidentally, folks, at the moment I am trying to compile all the 1977 alternate source recordings for some sort of a project (not sure what yet...) I have most of the alternate sources, but not all...

Agreed. Having just listened to the Tempe performance last night for the first time in years -possibly since I did the remastering work on it in the first place- this breakdown of the performance is spot on. Aside from the recording being better than I remembered it being (I reckon the muddy sound in the ASU arena was simply part and parcel) other than Robert Plant not hitting the high notes ("A man's got to know his limitations" as Clint Eastwood would say) "Achilles Last Stand" is the only real disaster here. I think "Trampled Under Foot" is sloppy simply because they hadn't played it in a month😆. Exactly why Jimmy skipped "White Summer" is probably a mystery known only to him... Now I REALLY want to hear the first part of the show, the taper never said why he missed the first seven songs, just that the thing was taped on a "shitty tape recorder" with "old batteries".

Robert Plant is fond of the "Sick Again" lyric, I can see why, it's funny and snarky almost in a Steely Dan way. "Baby dry those silver eyes"...😆 Agreed that the song just seemed dropped in to the set in '79, it works better up front IMO.

It was worth it just to hear from the taper of the show. Hell, I even listened to thing last night- it's actually not that that bad of a recording. And I maintain that it is mainly Robert Plant that is the weak link in Tempe with his inability to hit the high notes, though that "Achilles Last Stand" is one of the great rock and roll trainwrecks of all time😆 After a while Jones and Bonham don't even bother waiting for Jimmy to catch up to them...

I just reposted Tempe over at the Traders Den, having found my old discs cleaning the house...and got a reply from the TAPER of the show, who was able to solve a couple of mysteries, regarding the mediocre partial recording of the gig: the original tapes ran slow because they were "old batteries" and it was a "shitty tape deck". He also mentioned that he only had one 90 minute tape that had already been used a few times, which explains that beautiful tape bleed of "Jumping Jack Flash" and "All Right Now" we hear during "Stairway To Heaven". The taper didn't mention why he missed the first set on the recording, though.

Whatever you say, AA...been a dozen years since Freezer asked me to find out if you were the guy who leaked the info to TCOLZ about his Baton rouge '77 recording, and then you were outed over at the Hotel for being the TCOLZ shill. Like Bobby De Niro said in Goodfellas: you don't know who I am, but I KNOW who you are...