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  1. 1970/09/04 for the great atmosphere and lengthy spoken introduction to Bron-Yr-Aur. 1971/09/28 for the super long intro to Going to California, and the Beatles teases. 1972/06/14 for the great performance. 1972/06/19 for the debut of Black Country Woman. All six of the LA 77 acoustic sets for being pretty badass across the board, every single night.
  2. Bootlegs by a large mile. Blueberry Hill, Memphis 1970, MSG Evening Show 70, Boston Tea Party 1969, FIllmore/Winterland April 1969, Texas Pop 69, Belfast 71, Tokyo/Osaka 71, Nassau 1st night 1972, Seattle 2nd night 72, Hamburg/Essen 73, MSG 2/12/75, Long Beach 3/11-3/12/75, Vancouver 75, LA 6/21-6/23/77.... The official releases provide a great introduction, but the unedited bootlegs is where the true magic is. If a full copy of the soundboard for MSG 73 1st night ever sees the light of day, it would make the soundtrack to The Song Remains The Same obsolete for me. I don't really listen
  3. I think the internet has already done most of the work for him at this point. Between RO, Undergound Uprising, Year of Zeppelin, this site, and the sites which feature ripped-off reviews (such as Argenteum Astrum), I think that pretty much every show out there, and every interesting detail has already been covered. Highlighting the "best version" of each show can really only be done via the internet, because so many sources can always get upgraded via remasters, matrixes, upgraded lowgens, and new soundboards. Printing a book for this type of thing is only going to become out of date within a
  4. Troubled? No. Believe me, I listen to plenty of stuff post 73. Philly 2/8, NY 2/12, Nassau 2/14, Long Beach 3/12, Vancouver 3/19-20. NY and LA for 77, etc. Bonham was definitely phoning it in at EC. Compare his drumming at Dallas, Long Beach, or Vancouver in March to EC in May. Or better yet, compare EC to NY 2/3, which is probably his best playing of all of 75. No contest. At EC he sounds asleep in comparison. No offense to him, because he was a human being after all. Effects of alcohol, drugs, sickness, and burnout likely happened to him regularly. Remember Osaka 71 where he didn't even w
  5. Completely agree. And if/when a soundboard, multi-track or footage ever gets released, people will immediately see that the show wasn't so much legendary as it was just a big festival where Zeppelin were the headliners. The opener/debut of IS is so rough, with Plant's improvised lyrics, that hearing it in better quality would only make the casual fan think "What the hell happened to the song I'm familiar with?". The rest of the show has its share of errors too, like Page's guitar going out in Heartbreaker. The HMMT medley is nothing to write home about. The Long Tall Sally encore is pretty goo
  6. I'd say the more likely source is Jason Bonham. You have to remember that Jason lost his father very early, and so he has a much different interest in preserving all of those live Zep moments. That's his dad on those tapes. Watch the recent Charlie Rose interview, and the surviving members even make special mention that during the O2 rehearsals that Jason kept trying to get them all to do specific improvisations on songs like he had heard on various live tapes, and that none of them really had any idea what he was talking about because to them it was just a memory from a very very long time ag
  7. Great to get these soundboards for sure. Hopefully we'll see more in this format, with two shows being released at the same time. As for the performances, I think that there's always been a little too much praise for 5/30. Same goes for 4/28 and 4/30. These shows always get mentioned as being good gigs, but I think that they end up being a "the best of the rest", which for 1977 isn't necessarily a good thing. Yeah, 4/30 might have a video attached to it, and 4/28 and 5/30 have recordings which have nice atmosphere to them. But the performances really aren't that special, and there are stil
  8. I notice in the earlier post that they list "Trampled Underfoot" after Bron-Y-Aur Stomp in the tracklist description for the 30th. However, I think the artwork actually shows "White Summer" and "Black Mountainside" as the tracks after BYS, and not TU. So, I agree that this is finally confirmation that TU wasn't played.
  9. Wow, this is very cool. That completes the Landover run, all in soundboard. Although, I'm personally more a fan of the New York and especially LA gigs. I know a lot of people love Landover 5/30, but for some reason I can never seem to get into it. It's a great audience source, but there are no big surprises like those first 3 shows in LA. What will be really nice is having 5/25. The audience source for that show is rough, and if memory serves I think that night may have been particularly good for Bonham.
  10. The EV and WT 9/23 titles use similar sources, but according to Bootledz, the EV patched more of the cuts. Wendy's Osaka 9/28 boot has a patch of Stairway to Heaven from the next night, 9/29, which is kind of weird. And it apparently has some noise-reduction noise on disc 3.
  11. No need, this thread's just fine. Anyway, don't get your panties in a bunch, I've made my point. Enjoy the gig. Just do me a favor and don't forget what I posted next time they ask you to open your wallet for what ends up really only being a party for themselves. end rant
  12. Unfortunately I am. These things end up being cash cows for the people involved, while the real victims see next to nothing because the money that does get raised ends up being tied up by the organizers. Enjoy: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/charity.asp Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Concert_for_New_York_City Scroll down to the bit that mentions how much the concert actually raised - just $35 million. Not a hell of a lot of money considering the people involved, and the scale of that tragedy. What's worse is that with all of those mega-millionaires involved, they could've ea
  13. For a good cause, for sure. But then again, New York is the center of the financial and economic world, so do they really need to be taking donations from people? This wasn't at all on the same level of 9/11, and it's nowhere near the type of travesty as what happens routinely in Asia and Africa. You'd think that the local mega-banks and wall street companies would be enough to fix the damage in NY, especially since they're likely to be the ones managing the money that gets collected in the first place. Also, what always rubs me the wrong way about these things is that they end up being not
  14. I think it's possible that these things happened, but also suspect since they came from Richard Cole's recollections. As for Bonham punching Plant, they were childhood friends after all. Lots of friendships have those moments. Also, what unfortunately tends to get glossed over is that Bonham wasn't always a particularly nice person. It gets dramatized/romanticized as him turning into "the beast", or just being some rowdy kid who liked fast cars, but the reality is that he was drunk/drugged out a lot of the time in the later years, cheating on his wife regularly, and getting into physical
  15. From what I've read elsewhere, the evidence points to the soundcheck being from July 7, 1973. It's definitely not from 1972, and definitely not from 1975, since the Physical Graffiti riffs they play at the soundcheck aren't finished at all. If it was 1975, they would've been playing the riffs and parts of Wanton Song properly, instead of as a working riff with no structure. What proves that the soundcheck is from 1973 is that the riff that Page plays in the "Strawberry Jam" track (a title that the bootleg label made up) was performed note for note during the Whole Lotta Love medleys in Chic
  16. Isn't this idea essentially what the Timeline section of the official site already is? People posting their recollections of shows? A shame we can't contact some of the people who've posted, though, because in some of the comments some people appear to have taped some shows that never got circulated.
  17. As much as I would loooooove for this to be the case, I think we can be pretty sure that they didn't multi-track anything from 1977. They were only running the standard soundboard recording setup at all 1977 shows ("Reference Tapes", as Page has called them). Had they been running multi-tracks, the giveaway would've been extra mics on the kick and overheads of the drum kit. These can be seen at every other show that they ever had professionally recorded, save maybe for Bath, which nobody really knows whether that was really professionally recorded with multitracks or just a sounboard. LA 72,
  18. Can't speak for 1972, but for 1971 I like the following: Sept. 23rd 1971 - Tokyo: Reflection from a Dream - TDOLZ, King of the Monsters - Fan Remaster, Flying Rock Carnival - No Label, and First Attack of the Rising of the Sun - Empress Valley Sept. 24th 1971 - Tokyo: Light and Shade - TDOLZ, Balloon Boys Rock Carnival in Tokyo - Empress Valley Sept. 27th 1971 - Hiroshima: Love & Peace Hiroshima - Bumble Bee Sept. 28th 1971 - Osaka: Osaka Woman - No Label Sept. 29th 1971 - Osaka: Fatally Wanderer Definitive Edition - Wendy (the original has too much noise-reduction), Cellarful of
  19. Personally, I like to make an informal compilation using two separate low generation sources. For the first 4 songs (The Song Remains the Same, Sick Again, Nobody's Fault, and Over the Hills) find the compilation out there labeled "low gen 3 source mix", compiled by Weedwacker. The first source on there has the first 4 songs. For the rest of the show, go with Weedwacker's transfer of 1st generation cassettes of Mike Millard's source, which starts at Since I've Been Loving You and goes for the rest of the show. Yes, it has some tape machine errors inherent to the recording, and cuts from tap
  20. I like it. I think it makes for probably the heaviest record they ever made when you realize that they only really recorded those 8 songs for PG, and the rest were filler (albeit great filler) from past periods. The only change I'd make is to switch the order of Kashmir to number 3 and Trampled to number 4. The rest I think flows great.
  21. Los Angeles, June 23rd, 1977. All of it. Yes, including the errors in Kashmir and Page's guitar cutting out in Trampled Underfoot. Legendary shows aren't always the perfectly played ones. In this show's case, the errors are part of the fun and spontaneity of the gig.
  22. I thought it was "featuring the newly acquired tambourine"?
  23. Unfortunately, I think a live retrospective like the one mentioned here would prove really unsatisfying considering how much of the band's studio work wasn't easy to duplicate live, and how much Plant's voice changed over the years. The versions of Levee from early 75 have Plant in terrible voice, and the Copenhagen 71 version of Four Sticks is pretty ramshackle, even with Plant at his vocal peak. This type of "every studio song live" collection gets asked for of every band with any sort of live following. I can't think of a single band where it's ever happened. Especially considering that
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