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Hi. I'm new here but I wanted to join so I could share something. Am I allowed to share links for downloading it from my cloud storage or do I only offer them if people PM me? Long post - deep breath! Been working on it since the summer when it started to become apparent that Jimmy Page was not going to deliver the 50th Anniversary Live boxed set that we all hoped for. Well, if he wasn't going to do it, then I was certainly going to give it my best shot! My starting point was that for 1969-1973, we have near-complete live shows for each year: Paris Olympia from 1969 Royal Albert Hall from 1970 BBC Paris Theatre from 1971 How The West Was Won from 1972 Madison Square Garden from 1973 As the years 1975-1980 are only represented by the DVD's highlights from Earls Court '75 and Knebworth '79, I decided to concentrate purely on these years. Unfortunately, as much as I love Led Zep (they have been my favourite band for years) we all know that during the second half of their career their performances were sometimes inconsistent. Plant had vocal issues, Page had certain other issues and even Bonham could have a dodgy night. I knew that if I was to construct a live album for each of these years that was anywhere near definitive or near the standard required for an official release, it was going to involve a lot of editing. Plant's vocal squeaks and cracks needed sorting, Page's flubs needed to be addressed and a few band timing issues needed smoothing out. If I was to make an edit within a song and use a better performance from another night then I also wanted to match the EQ, reverb and stereo separation. Some soundboards varied so much in these areas! What I've ended up with is a 2cd or 3cd soundboard compilation from 1973, America and Earls Court 1975, America 1977, Knebworth 1979 and Europe 1980 to approximate a complete show from each of these tours/shows. I've also done the same for L.A. 1977, trying to use only Mike Millard's recordings wherever possible. I know they are audience recordings but they are so good and so legendary that even Page saw fit to use one for a menu on the official DVD set. I've sprinkled a few extras here and there just for kicks. As a bonus I've created an alternative version of The Song Remains The Same soundtrack. This one comes from my frustration at what we were officially given for the 50th Anniversary. The flawed 2007 version of The Song Remains The Same was reissued, despite Page having the opportunity to finally give the soundtrack the treatment it deserved - for example, by using the superior 1976 album versions of some of the songs and ditching the film versions with their awkward edits that sometimes even added or took away beats of the bar. A complete Black Dog would also have been nice! This is the version I wish had been issued. Many thanks to The Garden Tapes website which provided invaluable help. I've included a compilation (entitled 1973-1980) of songs which were some of my favourite performances but which didn't meet the standard I was looking for in terms of a near-perfect performance or sound quality. This compilation consists of 6 cds of honourable mentions, mostly soundboards but with a few top quality audience recordings that compete in terms of performance. Oh, and Volume 10 consists of 3 DVDs: the 1st is my version of what an official Earls Court compilation could look like, the 2nd my presentation of the Seattle gig with better sound + some extras and the 3rd is my version of what an official Knebworth compilation could look like. Note: If the edit I've made is just for a beat or two, or for a couple of seconds then I have not listed which show it has come from (there are many!) but if it is a large section of the song then I have detailed the source. Apologies for the few fixed tracks. Hope it's pretty self-explanatory for which track replaces which track. Finally, muchas gracias to the YouTuber Led Zeppelin Boots and the remaster wizard Liriodendron. I used a lot of their ideas in compiling the setlists and the 1977 sets and 1973 set especially contain a lot of their work. Here is a tracklisting for the set: Volume 1: 1973 CD1 01-Rock And Roll (Fort Worth 19-5-73) 02-Celebration Day (Fort Worth 19-5-73) 03-Black Dog (Fort Worth 19-5-73) 04-Over The Hills And Far Away (Fort Worth 19-5-73) 05-Georgia On My Mind (Salt Lake City 26-5-73) 06-Misty Mountain Hop (Salt Lake City 26-5-73) 07-Since I've Been Loving You (Mobile 13-5-73) 08-No Quarter (Seattle 17-7-73) 09-Dancing Days (Southampton 22-1-73) 10-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (Stoke 15-1-73) CD2 01-The Song Remains The Same (Seattle 17-7-73) 02-The Rain Song (Seattle 17-7-73) 03-Dazed And Confused (Seattle 17-7-73) 04-Stairway To Heaven (L.A. 31-5-73) CD3 01-Moby Dick (Mobile 13-5-73) 02-Heartbreaker (Detroit 13-7-73) 03-Whole Lotta Love (Detroit 13-7-73) 04-The Ocean (San Francisco 2-6-73) 05-Communication Breakdown (Denver 25-5-73) 06-Organ Solo - Thank You (New York 29-7-73) Volume 2: MSG 1973 CD1 01-Rock And Roll (2007 version, more vocal flubs have been corrected here) 02-Celebration Day (1976 version, superior guitar solo) 03-Black Dog (2003 DVD version, complete) 04-Over The Hills And Far Away (2007) 05-Misty Mountain Hop (2007) 06-Since I’ve Been Loving You (2007 version, but the odd edit which removed a beat just before the 2 minute mark has been fixed) 07-No Quarter (1976 version, one of the greatest band performances of all time) 08-The Song Remains The Same (1976 version, with more Plant ad-libs) 09-The Rain Song (2007 version, gorgeous treatment of the vocals) CD2 01-Dazed And Confused (1976 version, tighter with better edits) 02-Stairway To Heaven (1976 version) 03-Moby Dick (1976 version, better edits) 04-Heartbreaker (2007 version, but the missing beat in the drum transition into Whole Lotta Love has been restored) 05-Whole Lotta Love (1976 version, longer Crunge section) 06-The Ocean (2007 but in its rightful place as the encore) Volume 3: 1975 CD1 01-Rock And Roll (Seattle 21-3-75) 02-Sick Again (Seattle 21-3-75) 03-Over The Hills And Far Away (Vancouver 19-3-75 + Seattle 21-3-75) 04-In My Time Of Dying (L.A. 24-3-75) 05-Since I've Been Loving You (Seattle 21-3-75) 06-The Song Remains The Same (Seattle 21-3-75) 07-The Rain Song (Seattle 21-3-75) 08-Kashmir (Seattle 21-3-75) Bonus tracks: 09-When The Levee Breaks (Chicago 20-1-75) 10-The Wanton Song (Chicago 22-1-75) CD2 01-No Quarter (Vancouver 19-3-75) 02-Tangerine (Earls Court 24-5-75) 03-Going To California (Earls Court 25-5-75) 04-That's The Way (Earls Court 25-5-75) 05-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (Earls Court 25-5-75) 06-Trampled Underfoot (Vancouver 19-3-75 + Seattle 21-3-75) 07-Moby Dick (Baton Rouge 28-2-75) CD3 01-Dazed And Confused (Vancouver 20-3-75) 02-Stairway To Heaven (Seattle 21-3-75) 03-Whole Lotta Love (Vancouver 20-3-75) 04-The Crunge (Seattle 21-3-75) 05-Black Dog (Seattle 21-3-75) 06-Communication Breakdown (Seattle 21-3-75) 07-Heartbreaker (Seattle 21-3-75 + Uniondale 14-2-75) Volume 4: Earls Court 1975 CD1 01-Rock And Roll (24-5-75) 02-Sick Again (24-5-75 + 25-5-75) 03-Over The Hills And Far Away (24-5-75 +25-5-75) 04-In My Time Of Dying (24-5-75 + 25-5-75) 05-The Song Remains The Same (24-5-75) 06-The Rain Song (24-5-75) 07-Kashmir (24-5-75) 08-No Quarter (24-5-75) CD2 01-Tangerine (24-5-75 + 18-5-75 Backing Vocals) 02-Going To California (25-5-75) 03-That's The Way (24-5-75 + 25-5-75) 04-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (24-5-75) 05-Trampled Underfoot (25-5-75) 06-Moby Dick (24-5-75) Fixed Track: Alt. 02-Going To California (25-5-75) (extra vocals) CD3 01-Dazed And Confused (24-5-75) 02-Stairway To Heaven (25-5-75) 03-Whole Lotta Love (24-5-75) 04-Black Dog (24-5-75) 05-Heartbreaker (25-5-75) 06-Communication Breakdown (25-5-75) Volume 5: 1977 CD1 01-The Song Remains The Same (Fort Worth 22-5-77) 02-The Rover - Sick Again (Fort Worth 22-5-77 + Cleveland 27-4-77) 03-Nobody's Fault But Mine (Fort Worth 22-5-77) 04-In My Time Of Dying (Landover 25-5-77) 05-Since I've Been Loving You (Landover 30-5-77) 06-No Quarter (Landover 5-77) CD2 01-Ten Years Gone (Landover 30-5-77) 02-The Battle Of Evermore(Landover 5-77) 03-Going To California (New York 7-6-77) 04-Dancing Days (Landover 26-5-77) 05-Black Country Woman (Landover 5-77) 06-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (Landover 5-77) 07-White Summer-Black Mountain Side (Landover 30-5-77) 08-Kashmir (Landover 30-5-77) 09-Over The Top (Fort Worth 22-5-77) CD3 01-Guitar Solo (Landover 5-77) 02-Achilles Last Stand (Landover 5-77) 03-Stairway To Heaven (Landover 30-5-77) 04-Whole Lotta Love (Landover 30-5-77) 05-Rock And Roll (Landover 30-5-77) 06-Trampled Underfoot (Cleveland 27-4-77) 07-It'll Be Me (Fort Worth 22-5-77) Fixed track: Alt. 06-Trampled Underfoot (Cleveland 27-4-77) w. aud. patch 6.58: Volume 6: L.A. 1977 CD1 01-The Song Remains The Same (21-6-77) 02-The Rover - Sick Again (23-6-77) 03-Nobody's Fault But Mine (21-6-77) 04-In My Time Of Dying (25-6-77) 05-Since I've Been Loving You (23-6-77) 06-No Quarter (23-6-77) CD2 01-Ten Years Gone (23-6-77) 02-The Battle Of Evermore (27-6-77) 03-Going To California (27-6-77) 04-That's Alright Mama (26-6-77) 05-Going Down South (27-6-77) 06-Black Country Woman (21-6-77) 07-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp - Dancing Days (27-6-77) 08-White Summer-Black Mountain Side (21-6-77) 09-Kashmir (21-6-77) 10-Trampled Underfoot (27-6-77) 11-Heartbreaker (21-6-77) CD3 01-Over The Top (23-6-77) 02-Over The Hills And Far Away (21-6-77) 03-Guitar Solo (23-6-77) 04-Achilles Last Stand (23-6-77) 05-Stairway To Heaven (23-6-77) 06-Whole Lotta Love - Rock And Roll (23-6-77) 07-Communication Breakdown (25-6-77) 08-It'll Be Me (26-6-77) Volume 7: Knebworth 1979 CD1 01-The Song Remains The Same (11-8-79) 02-Celebration Day (11-8-79) 03-Black Dog (11-8-79) 04-Nobody's Fault But Mine 05-Over The Hills And Far Away (4-8-79) 06-Misty Mountain Hop (11-8-79) 07-Since I've Been Loving You (11-8-79) 08-No Quarter (11-8-79) 09-Ten Years Gone (4-8-79) 10-Hot Dog (4-8-79) 11-The Rain Song (4-8-79) 12-Trampled Underfoot (4-8-79) CD2 01-White Summer-Black Mountain Side (4-8-79) 02-Kashmir (4-8-79) 03-Sick Again (4-8-79) 04-Achilles Last Stand (4-8-79) 05-Guitar Solo (4-8-79) 06-In The Evening (4-8-79) 07-Stairway To Heaven (4-8-79) 08-Rock And Roll (4-8-79) 09-Whole Lotta Love (4-8-79) 10-Heartbreaker (4-8-79) 11-You'll Never Walk Alone (4-8-79) 12-Communication Breakdown (11-8-79) Fixed track: Alt. 10-Heartbreaker (4-8-79) (w. edit 2.24 during flubbed guitar solo for a more satisfying listen) Volume 8: Europe 1980 CD1 01-Train Kept A Rollin' (Zurich 29-6-80) 02-Nobody's Fault But Mine (Brussels 20-6-80) 03-Black Dog (Brussels 20-6-80) 04-In The Evening (Mannheim 3-7-80) 05-The Rain Song (Dortmund 17-6-80) 06-Hot Dog (Rotterdam 21-6-80) 07-All My Love (Rotterdam 21-6-80) 08-Trampled Underfoot (Brussels 20-6-80) 09-Since I've Been Loving You (Brussels 20-6-80) 10-Achilles Last Stand (Brussels 20-6-80) CD2 01-White Summer-Black Mountain Side (Brussels 20-6-80) 02-Kashmir (Brussels 20-6-80) 03-Stairway To Heaven (Rotterdam 21-6-80 + Frankfurt 30-6-80) 04-Rock And Roll (Berlin 7-7-80) 05-Heartbreaker (Rotterdam 21-6-80) 06-Communication Breakdown (Hanover 24-6-80) 07-Money (Frankfurt 30-6-80) 08-Whole Lotta Love (Brussels 20-6-80) Bonus Track: 09-Whole Lotta Love (Berlin 7-7-80) Volume 9: 1973-1980 (honourable mentions) CD1 01-Rock And Roll (Köln 18-6-80) 02-In My Time Of Dying (Baton Rouge 28-2-75) 03-Since I've Been Loving You (Copenhagen 24-7-79) 04-In The Evening (Brussels 20-6-80) 05-Kashmir (Baton Rouge 28-2-75) 06-All My Love (Frankfurt 30-6-80) 07-Trampled Underfoot (Earls Court 24-5-75) 08-No Quarter (Cleveland 27-4-77) (cut edited out) 09-Heartbreaker (Vienna 16-3-73) Fixed Track: Alt. 08-No Quarter (Cleveland 27-4-77) (fixed an issue around about 11 1/2 minutes into the song so substitute this for the version above) CD2 01-Over The Hills And Far Away (L.A. 22-6-77) 02-No Quarter (Vancouver 18-7-73) 03-Mystery Train - Black Country Woman - Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (San Diego 19-6-77) 04-How Many More Times (Chicago 22-1-75) 05-Stairway To Heaven (Offenburg 24-3-73) 06-Heartbreaker - Whole Lotta Love (L.A. 3-6-73) CD3 01-Dazed And Confused (Vienna 16-3-73) 02-Achilles Last Stand (Frankfurt 30-6-80) 03-Whole Lotta Love (Essen 22-3-73) 04-Heartbreaker (Long Beach 12-3-75) 05-Rock And Roll (Knebworth 11-8-79) CD4 01-Nobody’s Fault But Mine (Cleveland 27-4-77) 02-Over The Hills And Far Away (Dallas 4-3-75) 03-In My Time Of Dying (New York 12-2-75) 04-No Quarter (Cleveland 28-4-77) 05-Ten Years Gone (L.A. 21-6-77) 06-The Battle Of Evermore (L.A. 21-6-77) 07-Going To California (L.A. 21-6-77) 08-Stairway To Heaven (Copenhagen 24-7-79) 09-Rock And Roll (Copenhagen 23-7-79) CD5 01-No Quarter (Copenhagen 24-7-79) 02-Trampled Underfoot (Frankfurt 30-6-80) 03-Kashmir (Long Beach 12-3-75) 04-Sick Again (Copenhagen 24-7-79) 05-Stairway To Heaven (Detroit 12-7-73) 06-Whole Lotta Love (Hamburg 21-3-73) 07-How Many More Times - Communication Breakdown (Southampton 22-1-73) CD6 01-Black Dog (Copenhagen 24-7-79) 02-Rock And Roll (Munich 5-7-80) 03-Ten Years Gone (Cleveland 28-4-77) 04-No Quarter (alt. film version, New York 7-73) 05-Over The Hills And Far Away (L.A. 23-6-77) 06-Moby Dick (film version, New York 27-7-73 + 28-7-73) 07-Heartbreaker - Whole Lotta Love (Detroit 12-7-73) 08-Night Flight (soundcheck, Chicago 7-73) 09-Shakin’ All Over (soundcheck, Chicago 7-73) 10-School Days (soundcheck, Chicago 7-73) 11-Round And Round (soundcheck, Chicago 7-73) Volume 10: DVDs DVD1 - Earls Court 1975 No chapters (caused sync issues - feel free to amend!) 00-Audience (25th) and Intro (24th) 01-Rock And Roll (24th soundboard/audience audio matrix more sympathetic to Plant's voice) 02-Sick Again (24th soundboard/audience audio matrix more sympathetic to Plant's voice) 03-Over The Hills And Far Away (25th Bluecongo audio matrix) 04-In My Time Of Dying (25th Bluecongo audio matrix) 05-The Song Remains The Same (25th Bluecongo audio matrix) 06-The Rain Song (25th Bluecongo audio matrix) 07-Kashmir (25th Bluecongo audio matrix) 08-No Quarter (24th) 09-Tangerine (24th with backing vocals from 18th) 10-Going To California (25th - mixture of sources to make complete) 11-That's The Way (24th - mixture of sources to make complete) 12-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (24th) 13-Trampled Underfoot (24th) 14-Moby Dick (24th) 15-Dazed And Confused (24th) 16-Stairway To Heaven (24th) 17-Whole Lotta Love (24th) 18-Black Dog (24th) 19-Heartbreaker (25th) 20-Communication Breakdown (25th) NOTES + SOURCES: I have avoided using any performances that are on the official 2003 DVD (apart from Going To California which is fron the same night but is more complete than the offical release - there is no complete video of this song from the 24th). Audio sources: 24th - audience matrix audio (thanks rickm1964) for Rock And Roll/Sick Again because it took a few songs for Plant's voice to warm up on both nights as per the norm. The audio for the rest of the show is largely untouched except for a few vocal flubs here and there. 25th - King Jimmy and the West Bromwich Blues Band (Bluecongo audio matrix) synced to video. Video sources: 24th - In The Court Of King James (EV) up to Bron-Y Aur Stomp. This has a noticable improvment in picture quality, particularly for Tangerine. - Heavy Metal Kids (EV) from Trampled Underfoot to the end as there are no audio drop outs, and not much improvement in picture quality from King James, which has audio drop outs on its 2nd disc. - Return Of The Kings (WOW) for a tiny portion of That's The Way to make it as complete as possible. 25th - Demand Unprecedented In The History Of Rock Music (EV) DVD2 - Seattle 1977, Europe 1980 + Promos Seattle 1977 01-The Song Remains The Same (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 02-Sick Again (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 03-Nobody's Fault But Mine 04-Ten Years Gone 05-The Battle Of Evermore 06-Going To California 07-Black Country Woman 08-Bon-Y-Aur Stomp 09-White Summer-Black Mountain Side (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 10-Kashmir (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 11-Over The Top (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 12-Guitar Solo (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 13-Achilles Last Stand (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 14-Stairway To Heaven (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 15-Whole Lotta Love (soundboard/audience audio matrix) 16-Rock And Roll (soundboard/audience audio matrix) Europe 1980 01-Rotterdam 8mm with soundboard audio 02-Zurich 8mm with soundboard audio 03-Munich 8mm with audience audio Promos 01-No Quarter (complete version, MSG 1973) 02-Over The Hills And Far Away (L.A. 1975) 03-The Song Remains The Same - Sick Again (MSG 1977) 04-Sick Again (promo, L.A. 1977) 05-Achilles Last Stand (promo, L.A. 1977) 06-Whole Lotta Love - Rock And Roll (MSG 1977) 07-Ten Years Gone (VH1 promo, Knebworth 1979) 08-Hot Dog (promo, Knebworth 1979) 09-Kashmir (MTV promo, Knebworth 1979 - not the same as the 2003 DVD Knebowrth version of Kashmir!) NOTES + SOURCES: This disc requires quite a bit of explanation. I believe that Seattle 77's negative reputation comes from a) the dry video feed audio that is extremely unsympathetic to Plant's voice and Page's guitar and b) the fact that Over The Hills, Since I've Been Loving You and No Quarter are very underpar performances early on in the show. The rest of the concert, I think, is in some places spectacular. The acoustic set was always very enjoyable; even with the dry audio mix, Bonham's drumming is awesome throughout (is there a better Over The Top?) and Page performs one of his finest Stairway solos. All that is even more apparent with this audio matrix mix. Thank you to Sue Dounim for that wonderful piece of painstaking work. Audio sources: The Song Remains The Same-Sick Again - Sue Dounim audience/soundboard matrix synced with Video by Randy Butternubs II Nobody's Fault But Mine-Bron-Y-Aur Stomp - The Year Of The Dragon (EV) White Summer-Kashmir - audience/soundboard matrix (thanks, Randy B!) Over The Top to end - Sue Dounim audience/soundboard matrix synced with Video by Randy Butternubs II Video source: The Year Of The Dragon (EV) The Europe 1980 section comes from the fact that this is the only year in the box set for which there is no pro video. However, sounboards are in abundance. These 3 pieces of 8mm film represent the best of the 1980 footage and are from LedZeppelin.com. Munich is particularly enjoyable with Plant in fine voice. The Promos section consists of a) all the bits of broadcast film I could find that were used as official promos for songs on VH1 and MTV in the 80s and 90s which did not turn up on the 2003 DVD set, b) all the complete songs synced together from 8mm footage and bootleg recordings also found on Led Zeppelin.com and c) a wonderful fan-made edit (thank you, Rainson Zeppelin - yours is the superior version) of No Quarter that combines the superior Soundtrack album version with the film version and film footage in a very satisfying way! I felt I just had to include it as I probably enjoy watching it more than almost any other Led Zeppelin performance. This is the one! DVD3 - Knebworth 1979 No chapters (caused sync issues - feel free to amend!) 01-The Song Remains The Same 02-Celebration Day 03-Black Dog 04-Nobody's Fault But Mine 05-Over The Hills And Far Away 06-Misty Mountain Hop 07-Since I've Been Loving You 08-No Quarter 09-Ten Years Gone 10-Hot Dog 11-The Rain Song 12-White Summer-Black Mountain Side 13-Kashmir 14-Trampled Underfoot 15-Sick Again 16-Achilles Last Stand 17-Guitar Solo 18-In The Evening 19-Stairway To Heaven 20-Rock And Roll 21-Whole Lotta Love 22-Communication Breakdown 23-You'll Never Walk Alone 24-Heartbreaker Once again, like the Earls Court DVD, I have avoided using any performances that are on the official 2003 DVD (apart from an un-messed-with-in-a-studio version of Achilles from the 1st night - they completely messed it up on the 2nd night, hence that was unusable). Sources are: Knebworth 4-8-79 - Knebworth Masters (30th Anniversary Edition) - this uses the Winston soundboard/audience matrix for audio Knebworth 11-8-79 - Return Of The Dinosaurs (Genuine Masters) Both of these sources are still considered to be best by most fans. Once you have all 10 volumes (30 discs in total), I truly believe that you have all you need from 1973-1980 as a regular Zep fan. If this was released in a similar fashion to the Pink Floyd Early Years boxed set, it could be presented as the final word on this period of their live career. Or that was the idea, anyway! They barely made a false move from 1968-1972. Almost every concert is a winner. You should have them all as you lot probably know! It is definitely harder navigating through 1973-1980 and this 30 disc box set came from a desire of mine that all began when I heard my first Zep boots back in 1993: BBC '71, Destroyer '77 and Zurich '80. I hope it helps new fans wade through the tapes and provides old fans with a solution to the problem of there being no official 50th anniversary live box set from Jimmy Page. Enjoy!
Having done a search, this tour doesn't get discussed much on the forum. I was hoping to start this thread so's to stir up a bit of 1980 tour discussion. As promised (threatened? ) I have put together a 1980 compilation in the tradition of my 1977 How The West Was Won II comp. Using 1st gen soundboard sources, I came up with this: LED ZEPPELIN OVER EUROPE 1980 Train Kept A Rollin' (Cologne 18 June) Nobody's Fault But Mine (Cologne 18 June) Black Dog (Cologne 18 June) In The Evening (Frankfurt 30 June) The Rain Song (Frankfurt 30 June) Hot Dog (Frankfurt 30 June) All My Love (Frankfurt 30 June) Trampled Under Foot (Berlin 7 July) Since I've Been Loving You (Zurich 29 June) Achilles Last Stand (Zurich 29 June) White Summer/Black Mountain Side (Cologne 18 June) Kashmir (Cologne 18 June) Stairway To Heaven (Berlin 7 July) Rock And Roll (Berlin 7 July) Money (Frankfurt 30 June) Heartbreaker (Zurich 29 June) Communication Breakdown (Cologne 18 June) Whole Lotta Love (Berlin 7 July) (I concede I may have made some 'controversial' choices here, but I had my reasons, which we can also discuss. Also I noticed the Cologne soundboard had a much rougher sound than the others, which had a more uniform quality to them. Damn, some of these 1980 soundboards sound good!) I have to be honest: I certainly don't have the enthusiasm for the 1980 tour that I have for, say, 1977 Some of the '80 gigs I find generally dreadful, some are just so-so, and then there are nights like Zurich and Frankfurt where the band could hit their old peak and were transcendent. Having said that, though, listening to these four shows in full over the last couple days gave me a new appreciation for the tour, and what Zeppelin was trying to do. Quite simply, they seemed to change their whole approach to performing, focusing more on playing songs than showing off with a lot of drawn out self indulgent improvisation. We all know the story about the band's 'cut the waffle' attitude towards these gigs, and quite frankly it did seem to be the right decision. There are of course some drawbacks...first and foremost some of the 1980 shows feature Jimmy Page at his absolute worst. On the basis of his sloppy, erratic playing, I don't reckon Page looks back on a lot of these performances with fondness (he has expressed enthusiasm for the Zurich and Munich shows in the past.) Though there were still moments of the old brilliance from Pagey, but they seem to come from so out of left field it makes you appreciate them that much more. Robert Plant, consummate pro that he is, seemed to switch from enthusiastic to apathetic at the drop of a hat. Some nights it sounds like he simply did not want to be there; others he's just as impassioned in his vocals as ever (particularly on the newer material). His attitude towards the audience seems to have changed as well- gone is the witty charm in his Plantations; some nights (Rotterdam and Hannover immediately come to mind) there are times when Percy seems downright contemptuous towards the audience. Plant's mixed emotions make for an interesting listen at times. John Bonham could be erratic on this tour as well; he seems to have a more restrained approach to his playing in general, though that isn't necessarily a bad thing (some nights the whole band seems subdued) and it's hard to tell if Bonzo was rethinking his whole approach to drumming or if the booze and drugs were beginning to take their toll (though Bonham had a way to go before reaching the same level of substance induced decline of somebody like Keith Moon). Then there's John Paul Jones...there were some '77 shows where JPJ really rose to the occasion and carried the band. In 1980 that appeared to be the case in general. Considering Page's (and Bonham's) erraticism, and Plant's lack of enthusiasm, JPJ is the star here. He plays more keyboards than bass than ever at these shows, and though he may have made some questionable choices in regard to his keyboard sounds, his efforts towards 'modernizing' the band's sound were admirable. As I've stated before, my biggest issue with the 1980 tour is the setlist. I admit I generally skip the whole "Rain Song"/"Hot Dog"/"All My Love" sequence; that kind of running order IMO poured saltpeter over the audience in much the same way that back to back drum and 'noise' solos did in 1977. I've no issue with them performing those songs, just that order. It's no wonder they had to pull the audience out of their stupor with "Trampled Under Foot" after that. Had Zeppelin made it to the States to tour later in the year, I could see the fluctuating momentum of the setlist causing some hostility with the punters. Any, what are yer thoughts about the tour? I know the '80 gigs have their fans and supporters here. And if yer innarested in hearing the comp I made, well, you know the drill, shoot me a PM.