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6 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

 I am so fed up with people constantly criticizing wealth and bashing the rich.    

If it weren't for the rich, there'd be no jobs. Duh!

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On ‎2‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 10:20 PM, Strider said:

I love y'all.

I love "yer" Liverpool avatar.

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2 hours ago, rm2551 said:

Huh??? IF you are lucky enough to be born into a family that is in the top 10% of the wealthy, you are given vastly more opportunity than a trailer park or ghetto child. Not to say trailer park/ghetto baby cannot achieve whatever,  but I don't agree the opportunities are equal to both. Opportunities somewhat depend on environment and history. A public school kid from the ghetto who goes for it against a private schooled kid from a "captain of industry" go for the same job. Who wins?

Were they not all born free men? Are they not all afforded equal protection under the law? In 2019, given government grants/scholarships, do you agree that anyone who seeks to go to college can? Of course a person born into wealth will have certain financial and social advantages, but that has always held true and always will. My point is this notion that "millionaires and billionaires" are to be demonized and the system blown up is absurd.  

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2 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

Were they not all born free men? Are they not all afforded equal protection under the law? In 2019, given government grants/scholarships, do you agree that anyone who seeks to go to college can? Of course a person born into wealth will have certain financial and social advantages, but that has always held true and always will. My point is this notion that "millionaires and billionaires" are to be demonized and the system blown up is absurd.  

Yes.

Yes.

I don't know enough about who can go to college and how hard that actually is - I'll concede it's likely.

Of course a person born into wealth will have certain financial and social advantages, but that has always held true and always will.

Yes. But when there is an entrenched separation of classes that result in vastly different opportunities for each, that is an issue. The wealth disparity is the biggest threat to social order in the US. How much have wages grown for average Joe in the last decade? NIL - but the top earners? - SIGNIFICANTLY. it's not sustainable and will end in tears if it keeps going like it has.

Demonized...

That's a different point and the demonising of them largely extends from the weak laws that allow billionaires and their companies to pay FUCK ALL tax. (personal tax equal to their secretaries for instance). I don't blame them and they shouldn't be demonised for taking advantage of the law. You get the Government and legislation you deserve. And when half the country can't be assed voting, well, good luck with that. Seems to be working out for y'all.

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44 minutes ago, rm2551 said:

The wealth disparity is the biggest threat to social order in the US. How much have wages grown for average Joe in the last decade? NIL - but the top earners? - SIGNIFICANTLY. it's not sustainable and will end in tears if it keeps going like it has.

I completely agree that wage stagnation is the central challenge to American society -- not plastic bags or unregulated cow flatulence! The continued devaluation of American labor is, in my opinion, a direct consequence of globalization.   

https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/

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I heard a Hendrix song on the radio today (not sure which one, just caught the start on the way to lunch) and it took about 15 seconds of intro for me to really think it was Hendrix and not SRV. Turns out I was right once Hendrix started singing, but it was very close...

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10 hours ago, rm2551 said:

I heard a Hendrix song on the radio today (not sure which one, just caught the start on the way to lunch) and it took about 15 seconds of intro for me to really think it was Hendrix and not SRV. Turns out I was right once Hendrix started singing, but it was very close...

What always gives it away for me is the tone and the flow. Hendrix tone was fatter and had more fuzz, plus his playing sounded more natural, which makes sense as it was his song. SRV's tone I can't stand as it sounds way to thin and twangy to me, plus he plays much cleaner than Hendrix but yet his flow is not as natural.

Either way, both were great players, though I prefer Hendrix.

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On 2/6/2019 at 1:01 AM, redrum said:

Sounds good to me.

Is your house heated?

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14 hours ago, Freeyyaa said:

Is your house heated?

Yes. We have a pellet stove, electric baseboard heat and a heat pump. Also, an old wood stove we can hook up easily. :)

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I would like to die at age 77...the last year I saw Led Zeppelin.

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4 minutes ago, Strider said:

I would like to die at age 77...the last year I saw Led Zeppelin.

I won't allow it. 😎

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13 minutes ago, redrum said:

I won't allow it. 😎

Hahaha. You plan on killing me earlier? Living to 100 holds no appeal to me.

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On 2/21/2019 at 1:13 PM, Strider said:

Hahaha. You plan on killing me earlier? Living to 100 holds no appeal to me.

Live long and prosper. :)

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The Green New Deal is a joke. Any Democrat supporting this is digging their own grave. And the Sunrise Group adults exploiting children for sympathy should be ashamed of themselves.

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3 hours ago, Strider said:

The Green New Deal is a joke. Any Democrat supporting this is digging their own grave. And the Sunrise Group adults exploiting children for sympathy should be ashamed of themselves.

Much of the Green New Deal is not new at all as many sections in this were proposed, on air, to the American people, by FDR in 1941 as part of his Four Freedoms resolution which never came to pass due to WWII. I believe several of the more outrageous goals such as zero carbon emissions within 10 years are put in the resolution for political posturing reasons. In other words, ask for something you will never get so as to strengthen your negotiation position. Believe me, Trump has opened the ultimate Pandora's box by declaring a national emergency for the wall. Once the Dems take back the WH nothing will stop them from declaring the current state of healthcare a national emergency as well. This is why we have congress, however as congress is seriously abdicating their check on executive power by allowing this insane nonsense, whoever is President will be in effect King. Maybe the President will eventually dissolve Congress just as several British monarchs dissolved Parliament when it suited them?

People need to realize the country has moved to the left, not the right and topics such as universal health care and education are a primary focus. People are asking questions such as, "if every other first world country has universal health care, education, and a livable wage, why not the US?" Those goals are not only attainable, but will cost the American citizenry less as every metric has proven this. Universal health care would increase the federal tax rate by 3%, however, private insurance costs almost double that amount for the average American, so, this would save Americans and America in general significant money. 

College on the other hand is mostly bullshit, just a money-grab for the most part. Unless you are going for a professional degree such as doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. everything else should be taught via a type of trade school. The cost should be covered by the government in exchange for a two year service commitment either in the military, peace corps, or other similar organization.

Not only are these proposals doable, but better and much more efficient than what we currently have. BTW, anyone who does not trust the government with healthcare, fine, then those people need to surrender their Medicare / Medicaid card, or sign a waiver to any possible government healthcare benefits. Funny, something tells me those rubes will be screaming, "keep your government hands off of my Medicare!"

 

To me it's simple math, I would rather pay a 40 - 45% federal tax rate and get all of those benefits vs. paying a 35% fed tax rate and then paying another 20+% minimum for those services provided by the private sector out of pocket. I ain't no math genius but this is not exactly advanced calculus.

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4 hours ago, Strider said:

The Green New Deal is a joke. Any Democrat supporting this is digging their own grave. And the Sunrise Group adults exploiting children for sympathy should be ashamed of themselves.

The entry of Alexandria Ocasio-Kardashiones into the political scene will be fascinating to watch, as it already is.

Strider, I believe your post is spot on.
 

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9 hours ago, Strider said:

The Green New Deal is a joke. Any Democrat supporting this is digging their own grave. 

Ya think?  Trains on the oceans.. Just wow and all in 10 years no less, costs be damned cuz we're all gonna die don't ya know. Yet more socialist/communist unicorn and rainbow bs.  O'Crazio must be either a GOP plant or a DNC plant to make the other dems look more moderate.  

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13 hours ago, cryingbluerain said:

Ya think?  Trains on the oceans.. Just wow and all in 10 years no less, costs be damned cuz we're all gonna die don't ya know. Yet more socialist/communist unicorn and rainbow bs.  O'Crazio must be either a GOP plant or a DNC plant to make the other dems look more moderate.  

It's insane. Even Dianne Feinstein knows it is untenable and there is no way to pay for these pie-in-the-sky ideas.

California has spent the last 11 years trying to build a high-speed bullet train from San Francisco to Los Angeles. $100 billion later and it is still not finished and now it won't even reach either San Francisco or Los Angeles. A bullet train to nowhere.

And these hippies think they can do all this Green New Deal shit in 10 years? Dream on.

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23 hours ago, Strider said:

It's insane. Even Dianne Feinstein knows it is untenable and there is no way to pay for these pie-in-the-sky ideas.

California has spent the last 11 years trying to build a high-speed bullet train from San Francisco to Los Angeles. $100 billion later and it is still not finished and now it won't even reach either San Francisco or Los Angeles. A bullet train to nowhere.

And these hippies think they can do all this Green New Deal shit in 10 years? Dream on.

C'mon now, I know you are much more politically acute than that. You know a good portion of the Green New Deal is silly bullshit put in simply as a negotiating tool. 10 years? They know it will never happen, however if they put in 25 or 30 years, the republicans will push back with 50. It's negotiations 101, nothing more.

To put it simply, the Justice Democrats want Medicare for all (which is good as it will improve service and save money), free college w/ commitment to public service, and to reinstate the environmental protections removed over the past 19 years. The rest is smoke & mirrors. It's kinda like when you buy a used car, you know it's overpriced but you negotiate and in the end the seller typically gets what he / she wants and the buyer walks away thinking they got a great deal.

Either way I doubt it matters as the Senate will NEVER go for it in any form and likely neither will the house. Corporate Dems do not want Medicare for all, they do not want prescription drug prices regulated, and they don't want free or low cost college under any circumstance. All of these make too much money and most of these congress people are lapping it all up at the trough.

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14 hours ago, PeaceFrogYum said:

All of these make too much money and most of these congress people are lapping it all up at the trough.

And until money in politics is reformed (which is almost impossible given the overt self-interest) there will sadly NEVER be real fundamental root and branch reform of any areas that are basket cases of corruption and failure. The current divide between the bullshit "tribes" also is white-anting the US being the singular world dominant power. We seem to be watching the slow demise of the US and it is NOT pretty - or in any way of benefit.

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9 hours ago, rm2551 said:

And until money in politics is reformed (which is almost impossible given the overt self-interest) there will sadly NEVER be real fundamental root and branch reform of any areas that are basket cases of corruption and failure. The current divide between the bullshit "tribes" also is white-anting the US being the singular world dominant power. We seem to be watching the slow demise of the US and it is NOT pretty - or in any way of benefit.

Very good point

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I like the deep blue rubber bands that surround freshly purchased asparagus.

That's pretty fucking random...

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We seem to be watching the slow demise of the US and it is NOT pretty - or in any way of benefit.

Crapola.

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