MightyZep Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) computer glitch Edited May 22, 2009 by MightyZep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyZep Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 I guess I used the incorrect verbiage. Reducing Physical Graffiti from 15 tracks to 8 is a daunting task that few mortals are willing to undertake. OH lol Yes, it was kinda lengthy ordeal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aen27 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Houses of the Holy In My Time of Dying Trampled Under Foot Ten Years Gone Kashmir The Wanton Song Bron-A-Yur Sick Again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyZep Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) No need to get frustrated. I knew what your point was - I was just commenting that I couldn't imagine making the choice to leave any song off. Sorry I didn't explain myself well. I hear ya. It's all good. I just think of the idea of this as a brain teaser (not really like "brain teaser", just something that makes you think you know) or something. IDK, just wanted to make sure you knew that. Edited May 22, 2009 by MightyZep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aen27 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) No need to get frustrated. I knew what your point was - I was just commenting that I couldn't imagine making the choice to leave any song off. Sorry I didn't explain myself well. I hated having to do that! I made me even happier they are all there. I love this album. I was frusterated too. It was so hard to pick. Edited May 22, 2009 by aen27 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leding lady Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Custard Pie In My Time of Dying Houses of the Holy Trampled Under Foot In the Light Bron-Yr-Aur Ten Years Gone The Wanton Song And yes I agree, so hard to choose! But kind of fun trying... (ooh, my head) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barrios Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 running order: night flight c pie t underfoot kashmir sick again wanton song in the light down by the sea bron yr aur however, physical graffiti works very well as it was intended. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Rover Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 But.... what if PG had to be reduced to a single CD. What PG tracks would you cram into this mythical 80 minute disc from the tracks origianlly inlcuded on the PG double LP release ? ? ? ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leding lady Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 But.... what if PG had to be reduced to a single CD. What PG tracks would you cram into this mythical 80 minute disc from the tracks origianlly inlcuded on the PG double LP release ? ? ? ? So would that mean that only 1 song would need to be removed? If so, that makes it much easier! (But still difficult!) For me, I'd probably leave out either Down by the Seaside or Sick Again. There are aspects of both songs I like a lot, but not quite as much as I love all the others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stormbringer Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 But.... what if PG had to be reduced to a single CD. What PG tracks would you cram into this mythical 80 minute disc from the tracks origianlly inlcuded on the PG double LP release ? ? ? ? Boogie w/Stu or Black Country Woman. My least favourite tracks from PG. Although I can understand that for someone these could be like one of the the PG signature songs. They fit into the album and define it as something... like... physical... graffiti.... But for me, if I had to choose to leave one, than it would have to be one of those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a clockwork tangerine Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 But.... what if PG had to be reduced to a single CD. What PG tracks would you cram into this mythical 80 minute disc from the tracks origianlly inlcuded on the PG double LP release ? ? ? ? Well, this makes it a lot easier! I'd get rid of Down by the Seaside. It's my least favorite on PG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Rover Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Well, this makes it a lot easier! I'd get rid of Down by the Seaside. It's my least favorite on PG. Absolutely disagree with DBTS as a track to leave off ...... I would not touch that track listing from that side of the seocong LP in that set.... I would probably delete "Kashmir".... A Great song Live.... So great.... that the studio version now seems a pale and weak recording, by comparison. I am serious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
illestkeith Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I would probably delete "Kashmir".... A Great song Live.... So great.... that the studio version now seems a pale and weak recording, by comparison. I am serious. Isn't that true for all their songs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a clockwork tangerine Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Absolutely disagree with DBTS as a track to leave off ...... I would not touch that track listing from that side of the seocong LP in that set.... I would probably delete "Kashmir".... A Great song Live.... So great.... that the studio version now seems a pale and weak recording, by comparison. I am serious. Well, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you about Kashmir! I actually really like the studio version because it's one of the rare Zeppelin tracks that uses an orchestra. I don't think the studio version would have been as good if they hadn't have used an orchestra. The orchestra gives it a larger than life sound and adds to the hypnotic effect of the song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a clockwork tangerine Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Isn't that true for all their songs? Ummm.... NO!! I think the album versions of Achilles Last Stand, Battle of Evermore, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (I could list more, but it's off topic) are better than live versions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 As Robert says just before BCW, "Nah leave it". Is it Jimmy saying "Nah leave it"? To who ever (maybe sound recordists) said "We're rolling Jimmy, on one again?" "On one". It sound's like Robert ether chuckling or coughing. I may be right or may be wrong I wasn't there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninelives Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Is it Jimmy saying "Nah leave it"? To who ever (maybe sound recordists) said "We're rolling Jimmy, on one again?" "On one". It sound's like Robert ether chuckling or coughing. I may be right or may be wrong I wasn't there. I always thought it was Robert who said "nah, leave it". Sounds like Robert at any rate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glicine Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I always thought it was Robert who said "nah, leave it". Sounds like Robert at any rate. I thought Jimmy murmured something in between and then Robert said "nah, leave it". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ninelives Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I thought Jimmy murmured something in between and then Robert said "nah, leave it". Someone does say something but I never thought about it being Jimmy though of course that would make sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Rover Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Well, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you about Kashmir! I actually really like the studio version because it's one of the rare Zeppelin tracks that uses an orchestra. I don't think the studio version would have been as good if they hadn't have used an orchestra. The orchestra gives it a larger than life sound and adds to the hypnotic effect of the song. That's News to me.... which Orchestra is credited on the album, bty ? ? ? The symphonic Kashmir: Symphonic Led Zeppelin version is quite impressive. A fullness that deos remind me of very powerful Led Zeppelin perfomances in 1977. Edited May 26, 2009 by The Rover Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glicine Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 That's News to me.... which Orchestra is credited on the album, bty ? ? ? I've heard about that a Orchestra worked on Kashmir, too, but was not credited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyPageZoSo56 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Well, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you about Kashmir! I actually really like the studio version because it's one of the rare Zeppelin tracks that uses an orchestra. I don't think the studio version would have been as good if they hadn't have used an orchestra. The orchestra gives it a larger than life sound and adds to the hypnotic effect of the song. I did not know that. I thought it was JPJ using brass and string patches on his keyboards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a clockwork tangerine Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 That's News to me.... which Orchestra is credited on the album, bty ? ? ? The symphonic Kashmir: Symphonic Led Zeppelin version is quite impressive. A fullness that deos remind me of very powerful Led Zeppelin perfomances in 1977. I knew I remembered reading somewhere about the use of an orchestra for Kashmir, and I found an excerpt from Keith Shadwick's Led Zeppelin book: "Peter Grant heard an early demo of Kashmir made by Bonham and Page. Years later he recalled: 'It was fantastic. Funny thing is when it was first finished it was decided it was a bit of a dirge. We were in Paris and we played it to Atlantic and we thought it was a dirge, so Richard [Cole] was dispatched to Southall in London to find a Pakistani orchestra. We put the strings on and Jonesy got it all together, and the end result was exactly what was needed. He was a master arranger.' " Shadwick also mentions the use of strings on Friends: "The spare, held-note arrangement for a small string section (scored by Jones) is entirely appropriate, emphasising the bittersweet mood of the song and underlying the simple but heartfelt message of the lyrics." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EddieShouldHaveListened Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) I read in Led Zeppelin 1968-1980 that Houses of the Holy was originally going to be a double album but they didnt have enough time to edit all the tracks. the songs included: Stuff recorded in may-june 72: TSRTS Rain Song OTHAFA The Crunge Dancing Days D'yer mak'er No Quarter The Ocean Black Country Woman Walter's Walk The Rover Houses of the Holy and stuff from 70-71 Poor Tom Bron-y-aur Down by the Seaside Night Flight Boogie With Stu and thus Physical Graffiti would look like this: Custard Pie In My Time Of Dying Trampled Underfoot Kashmir In The Light Ten Years Gone The Wanton Song Sick Again Edited May 26, 2009 by EddieShouldHaveListened Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Harris Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I wouldn't change a thing I totally agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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