Paul Hayman Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I attempted to start a thread earlier today entitled TV Coverage: The elephant in the room. For reasons best known to the administrator it was removed, so I'm having another go. In his/her explanation they said that it had been mentioned too many times already and I should search the forum for information. Guess what? The search engine was overloaded for that topic. Hence my referring to it as 'the elephant in the room'. Someone any idea why such an event as this is not being televised by somebody in some form. Obviously from the removal of my similar remarks earlier someone doesn't want such a suggestion made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 It's not a dirty word, Paul. It is a dead horse of a topic which has been kicked beyond death. I would have taken the hint provided by the site admin. You can find the answer in about two seconds with far less effort than it took to create an unneccessary thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I attempted to start a thread earlier today entitled TV Coverage: The elephant in the room. For reasons best known to the administrator it was removed, so I'm having another go. In his/her explanation they said that it had been mentioned too many times already and I should search the forum for information. Guess what? The search engine was overloaded for that topic. Hence my referring to it as 'the elephant in the room'. Someone any idea why such an event as this is not being televised by somebody in some form. Obviously from the removal of my similar remarks earlier someone doesn't want such a suggestion made! We have enough threads on this subject already, and that's probably why it was moved. It's not being televised, streamed on the internet or released on DVD. That last one might change, but we don't know. I had posted 8 links to threads that dealt with this subject in a thread last night, but I think that too was removed. There are 7 pages in this forum, if you manually search it, you'll find that this has been discussed ad nauseum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronwyn Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Yea I know, It's weird when so many people are denied attendance it would at least be some consolation to see it on screen at least. Perhaps they are filming though. You know then they can sell dvds later & raise more money for the charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myledzep Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 To answer your question as to "why", I think no one knows; it's just not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hayman Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 Yea I know, It's weird when so many people are denied attendance it would at least be some consolation to see it on screen at least. Perhaps they are filming though. You know then they can sell dvds later & raise more money for the charity. They are filming, I am sure of that. But like you I think that if they are so confident that they still have their mojo they should televise it. They could charge and raise money that way, as well as sell DVDs; in fact they might sell even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solar Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I attempted to start a thread earlier today entitled TV Coverage: The elephant in the room. For reasons best known to the administrator it was removed, so I'm having another go. In his/her explanation they said that it had been mentioned too many times already and I should search the forum for information. Guess what? The search engine was overloaded for that topic. Hence my referring to it as 'the elephant in the room'. Someone any idea why such an event as this is not being televised by somebody in some form. Obviously from the removal of my similar remarks earlier someone doesn't want such a suggestion made! Geesus, how many times do I have to say this: IT IS NOT BEING BROADCAST/STREAMED/PAY-PER-VIEW TO PREVENT BOOTLEGGING! If a DVD is released, then the proceeds would most likely go to the Ahmet Education Fund. And it behooves no one to let the product go when it could be packaged as a DVD (if the performance is acceptible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hayman Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 Geesus, how many times do I have to say this: IT IS NOT BEING BROADCAST/STREAMED/PAY-PER-VIEW TO PREVENT BOOTLEGGING! If a DVD is released, then the proceeds would most likely go to the Ahmet Education Fund. And it behooves no one to let the product go when it could be packaged as a DVD (if the performance is acceptible). Say it as many times as you want mate. If anyone in their right mind thinks that telvising the event would reduce DVD sales they are a fuckwit. It would obviously increase them and increase interest in the event: if it is as good as it has been mooted to be by Jimmy Page. Saying it won't be repeatedly doesn't stop it being idiotic that it isn't and people like myself have a right to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 ^^No, it doesn't stop it from being idiotic, but it doesn't make sense to keep starting threads about it since it's not going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hayman Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 ^^No, it doesn't stop it from being idiotic, but it doesn't make sense to keep starting threads about it since it's not going to change. People's opinions, if they are enough of them, do count and have an effect. Especially when it is common sense. No-one will know what the general public want or think unless you attempt to express it, and a forum dedicated to Led Zep seems a pretty obvious place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 People's opinions, if they are enough of them, do count and have an effect. Especially when it is common sense. No-one will know what the general public want or think unless you attempt to express it, and a forum dedicated to Led Zep seems a pretty obvious place to start. I very sincerely doubt that if people jam up the board with threads demanding the concert be televised, the people responsible for putting the show on will suddenly see it and change their minds. The show is 5 days from now, if it was going to televised, plans for it to happen would have been made a while ago. I can't imagine an event of this magnitude not having everything planned out to the inth degree. The reason Sam deleted that thread and probably a whole host of others is that it's redundant. The concert will not be televised and 3947393472973943202436203 threads on the subject, no matter how heartfelt the opinions are, is going to change that. Does it suck? Sure. But just like we don't need umpteen threads talking about whether or not there's Satanic backmasking in Stairway To Heaven, we don't need umpteen threads on whether this concert will be made available to people not in attendance that night. If people want to know, all they need do is read through the 7 pages on this board and they'll get their answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of the Cods Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 NO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledwallett Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 given past flops of reunion one offs, the band wants full control. this way if it sucks wether they can fix it or if it really really sucks no one will see it except those who were there. unless you are kashmir_bob who is the only person in the world who thinks the other reunions were the best ever, you can understand why the band would be a bit paranoid. plain and simple. if you think its something other then that you are wrong. use live aid as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solar Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Say it as many times as you want mate. If anyone in their right mind thinks that telvising the event would reduce DVD sales they are a fuckwit. It would obviously increase them and increase interest in the event: if it is as good as it has been mooted to be by Jimmy Page. Saying it won't be repeatedly doesn't stop it being idiotic that it isn't and people like myself have a right to say so. You do realize that the band made a sizable donation to the Live Aid charity to NOT include its performance on the recently released DVD? Or that they revile the fact that the Atlantic 40th was televised and they weren't on that night? You think this may be playing into the decision, which they had announced in September when people were clamoring for closed circuit feeds and satellite broadcasts and all this? Their management's office was beseiged with requests and they've held firm. If you think, less than a week before the show, that you can change that, well, then keep wasting the bandwidth here by starting threads about a broadcast that is not/will not happen. Fans are being very selfish about this show. It's like Daltry sang, "I want it I want it I want it....YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!"* * of course, there's a very good chance that there will be bootlegs aplenty for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppelinRocks2007 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'm sure Jimmy Page will film it for DVD but not for TV/PPV. The band will film the show I'm sure. The band love their fans more than anything in the world and they usually give them what they want. They gave us the reunion that we all wanted for years, they'll give us this too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Badgely Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I was under the impression that Page just doesnt trust the medium of live television. I seem to remember him bashing the HBO people for flubbing up on the 88 show, for simply not getting the sound right. I think he said something to the effect that this was unforgivable. Perhaps this applies for next week as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 They are filming, I am sure of that. But like you I think that if they are so confident that they still have their mojo they should televise it. They could charge and raise money that way, as well as sell DVDs; in fact they might sell even more. They couldn't even get the fucking ticket sales right. Let's keep it simple. It's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledwallett Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I was under the impression that Page just doesnt trust the medium of live television. I seem to remember him bashing the HBO people for flubbing up on the 88 show, for simply not getting the sound right. I think he said something to the effect that this was unforgivable. Perhaps this applies for next week as well. yeah to bad he couldnt blame hbo for not being able to get it up on heartbreaker that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 People's opinions, if they are enough of them, do count and have an effect. Especially when it is common sense. No-one will know what the general public want or think unless you attempt to express it, and a forum dedicated to Led Zep seems a pretty obvious place to start. It's meant to be a relatively intimate occasion for the band and those in attendance. Televising it is contradictory to the spirit and intent of the concert. Why is this so hard for people to grasp? It's THEIR moment, let THEM have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Badgely Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 yeah to bad he couldnt blame hbo for not being able to get it up on heartbreaker that night. Perhaps I've never heard a real good audio of this one. I do remember that the sound was not broadcasted properly. Maybe he was ripping on Heartbreaker it was just that us at home really couldnt tell for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Perhaps I've never heard a real good audio of this one. I do remember that the sound was not broadcasted properly. Maybe he was ripping on Heartbreaker it was just that us at home really couldnt tell for sure. The FM radio simulcast feed was great, the audio feed for television was garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Badgely Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Well anyway, any predictions on how the 02 stuff will filter through on Monday night Tuesday morning. Is it gonna be a utube thing or what? I will certainly be looking. For me personally poor quality footage has never been much of a problem, I feel I can still get a general idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Action Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Well anyway, any predictions on how the 02 stuff will filter through on Monday night Tuesday morning. Is it gonna be a utube thing or what? I will certainly be looking. For me personally poor quality footage has never been much of a problem, I feel I can still get a general idea. Didn't you play the doctor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Flight Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 At some point the mods should have posted a "sticky" to halt the ridiculous amount of threads regarding this subject. If nothing else set a post count before someone can start a thread. Unfortunately it's probably too late, and only going to get worse over the next few days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'm sure Jimmy Page will film it for DVD but not for TV/PPV. I think Jimmy will be too busy playing his guitars to film the show too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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