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Marijuana legalization

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1 hour ago, EaglesOfOneNest said:

Yeah, I mean, just being honest, I am a regular partaker of MJ and have never had the desire to try anything else. Of course, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data", hehe. Also, while it can be difficult to extrapolate one country's results to another (due to cultural norms, population size and composition, etc), one only needs to look at Portugal as a positive example of what happens when all drugs are decriminalized. 

Drugs are legal in Portugal?

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37 minutes ago, BledZabbath said:

Drugs are legal in Portugal?

Sort of. They are decriminalised to a point. If you get caught you won't be arrested but advised to get rehabilitated, At least I think that's what happens. I visit Portugal regularly and have never seen or been offered any drug. So in theory Portugal have got it spot on

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34 minutes ago, chillumpuffer said:

Sort of. They are decriminalised to a point. If you get caught you won't be arrested but advised to get rehabilitated, At least I think that's what happens. I visit Portugal regularly and have never seen or been offered any drug. So in theory Portugal have got it spot on

Thanks C. I never knew that.

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12 hours ago, chillumpuffer said:

Really? The guys a buffoon and thankfully he isn't coming here because according to him "we don't love him" That's correct Fanta man WE DON'T

How funny is that you would say something bad about a guy who is a winner when you still have that very odd family who is always in all of the supermarket rag papers with the weird stuff they are always up to.  You dont have to love him, he doesnt manage your country because if he did then he would fire that weird family in the big palace.

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Perhaps if they legalized drugs and controlled them, it would eliminate drug cartels, dealers, bring down gangs and such?

 

Prohibition is what increased organized crime and how the mafia rose to power.

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1 hour ago, BledZabbath said:

Perhaps if they legalized drugs and controlled them, it would eliminate drug cartels, dealers, bring down gangs and such?

 

Prohibition is what increased organized crime and how the mafia rose to power.

Of course that is the most sensible approach. Unfortunately sense doesn't often feature in politics.

 

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7 hours ago, kipper said:

How funny is that you would say something bad about a guy who is a winner when you still have that very odd family who is always in all of the supermarket rag papers with the weird stuff they are always up to.  You dont have to love him, he doesnt manage your country because if he did then he would fire that weird family in the big palace.

I tend to agree with you there. Then again those palace dwellers don't have the "my buttons bigger than yours" mentality

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4 hours ago, BledZabbath said:

Perhaps if they legalized drugs and controlled them, it would eliminate drug cartels, dealers, bring down gangs and such?

 

Prohibition is what increased organized crime and how the mafia rose to power.

Bingo

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4 hours ago, BledZabbath said:

Perhaps if they legalized drugs and controlled them, it would eliminate drug cartels, dealers, bring down gangs and such?

 

Prohibition is what increased organized crime and how the mafia rose to power.

Well, of course but...where is the profit in THAT!

Criminalization = tons and tons of sweet cash for several different industries. Money is typically the root of the problem.

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6 hours ago, chillumpuffer said:

I tend to agree with you there. Then again those palace dwellers don't have the "my buttons bigger than yours" mentality

Do the palace dwellers even have a button?  I thought they just spent all of their time playing polo and visiting their castles and stuff. arent the palace dwellers just about like our kardashian family but supported by tax payers?  kind of a joke if you ask me

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3 hours ago, kipper said:

Do the palace dwellers even have a button?  I thought they just spent all of their time playing polo and visiting their castles and stuff. arent the palace dwellers just about like our kardashian family but supported by tax payers?  kind of a joke if you ask me

Not quite. Unlike our politicians, all males in the royal family are required to serve in the military and to my knowledge, every one has served on the front lines in combat during times of war. Also, they are pretty much the vanguard for all charitable endeavors in the UK and act as ambassadors of good will across the globe. So in reality, they do work quite hard.

My only quip with the Royal Family is that they pretty much control the bulk of European Banking. They are shit ton rich yet they did not really make a dime of it. All old money pilfered from countries like India and Africa + compound interest over centuries.

So like anything else, a mixed bag.

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4 hours ago, IpMan said:

Not quite. Unlike our politicians, all males in the royal family are required to serve in the military and to my knowledge, every one has served on the front lines in combat during times of war. Also, they are pretty much the vanguard for all charitable endeavors in the UK and act as ambassadors of good will across the globe. So in reality, they do work quite hard.

My only quip with the Royal Family is that they pretty much control the bulk of European Banking. They are shit ton rich yet they did not really make a dime of it. All old money pilfered from countries like India and Africa + compound interest over centuries.

So like anything else, a mixed bag.

I dont  think the men are ever really at risk in the military. When was the last time one died in a war in the last 500 years? Most probably died of shame for all of the crimes.

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11 hours ago, IpMan said:

Not quite. Unlike our politicians, all males in the royal family are required to serve in the military and to my knowledge, every one has served on the front lines in combat during times of war. Also, they are pretty much the vanguard for all charitable endeavors in the UK and act as ambassadors of good will across the globe. So in reality, they do work quite hard.

My only quip with the Royal Family is that they pretty much control the bulk of European Banking. They are shit ton rich yet they did not really make a dime of it. All old money pilfered from countries like India and Africa + compound interest over centuries.

So like anything else, a mixed bag.

At least they were smarter than the Portuguese who had about the same colonies or more and ended up with nothing.

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7 hours ago, Strider said:

 

That must be some crack you are smoking, for those are some delusional statements you are making. After a year, the evidence is more than piling up, it's a veritable deluge. But then, maybe it's opiods you are addicted to...the states with the biggest opiod problem are the states that voted for him.

I dont use drugs of any kind. Drugs are for losers even pot. I dont even think the guy you seem to hate so much drinks alcohol. The only evidence is he is doing a great job. The economy is at record highs, people are back to work, many people getting raises and bonuses. Didn't you get a bonus strider, is that why you are so angry?

Dont talk about me strider if you cant talk nice. You dont know me, and you shouldnt judge me. I supported the same guy you voted for last time because I had high hopes for him, but he did nothing but divide people, make excuses and make us less safe.  Maybe you need to open you eyes and you mind too Strider.

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15 hours ago, BledZabbath said:

Crack is Whack Strider, per Whitney Houston, may she be resting in peace.

Sad story for her. That was her prerogative. I never touch the stuff.

9 hours ago, kipper said:

I dont use drugs of any kind. Drugs are for losers even pot. I dont even think the guy you seem to hate so much drinks alcohol. The only evidence is he is doing a great job. The economy is at record highs, people are back to work, many people getting raises and bonuses. Didn't you get a bonus strider, is that why you are so angry?

Dont talk about me strider if you cant talk nice. You dont know me, and you shouldnt judge me. I supported the same guy you voted for last time because I had high hopes for him, but he did nothing but divide people, make excuses and make us less safe.  Maybe you need to open you eyes and you mind too Strider.

 If you really think I am angry, you are even more thin-skinned and whinier than I suspected. Don't worry, I am done with you...it's obvious you are a lost cause or a troll. I'll leave you alone in your bubble.

I'll now go tell my marijuana-smoking friends with cancer what dopes they are.

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On 1/15/2018 at 10:34 PM, kipper said:

I dont  think the men are ever really at risk in the military. When was the last time one died in a war in the last 500 years? Most probably died of shame for all of the crimes.

At least none are burdened with the shame of having begged off from a war due to non-existent bone spurs...

 

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8 minutes ago, ForEvermore said:

At least none are burdened with the shame of having begged off from a war due to non-existent bone spurs...

 

:yesnod:

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2 hours ago, Strider said:

Sad story for her. That was her prerogative. I never touch the stuff.

 If you really think I am angry, you are even more thin-skinned and whinier than I suspected. Don't worry, I am done with you...it's obvious you are a lost cause or a troll. I'll leave you alone in your bubble.

I'll now go tell my marijuana-smoking friends with cancer what dopes they are.

If it eases their pain I say go fo it, cancer is a terrible thing.

The Whitney Houston thing was tragic.

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3 hours ago, Strider said:

 

 If you really think I am angry, you are even more thin-skinned and whinier than I suspected. Don't worry, I am done with you...it's obvious you are a lost cause or a troll. I'll leave you alone in your bubble.

I'll now go tell my marijuana-smoking friends with cancer what dopes they are.

I dont know if you are angry or not but you are the one who decided to make it personal Strider. Not sure how old you are but I think you are old enough to know how to act like a man by now.  Im sorry you have friends  with cancer who smoke pot. Maybe the smoking is what caused it in the first place. 

If pot smoking is legal where you live why do you care what my opinion is anyway. Smoke away, but its still using dope.

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2 hours ago, ForEvermore said:

At least none are burdened with the shame of having begged off from a war due to non-existent bone spurs...

 

and still they prance around spending tax payers money acting like they are kings and queens because they deserve it.

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On 15/01/2018 at 7:17 PM, kipper said:

Do the palace dwellers even have a button?  I thought they just spent all of their time playing polo and visiting their castles and stuff. arent the palace dwellers just about like our kardashian family but supported by tax payers?  kind of a joke if you ask me

Having a family member that works in the palace in their admin team, I know that they have very very busy lives based around charities, trusts, functions etc etc. they have very little time to themselves. Even people in this country have very little clue how much they are actually involved in.  

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32 minutes ago, kipper said:

I dont know if you are angry or not but you are the one who decided to make it personal Strider. Not sure how old you are but I think you are old enough to know how to act like a man by now.  Im sorry you have friends  with cancer who smoke pot. Maybe the smoking is what caused it in the first place. 

If pot smoking is legal where you live why do you care what my opinion is anyway. Smoke away, but its still using dope.

Thanks for the comedy. By the way, my friends with cancer did not smoke pot beforehand. They were prescribed it after they contracted cancer to deal with the pain. But in your narrowminded Trump-bubble everyone is a dope who smokes pot, no matter the reason. It's just as IpMan and others said about your posts on sexual harassment...you are incapable of nuance in your discussions. Everything is rigid black-and-white, damn the facts.

30 minutes ago, kipper said:

and still they prance around spending tax payers money acting like they are kings and queens because they deserve it.

More comedy gold. Your words could easily apply to the Trumps, who have practically racked up more tax-payer funded golf-trips in one year than all the previous presidents combined. Not to mention the expense needed to staff and secure the Trumps sham of a marriage with their separate living arrangements.

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"Not to mention the expense needed to staff and secure the Trumps sham of a marriage with their separate living arrangements."

You mean like Slick Willy and Hitlery in the 90's???

 

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1 hour ago, Stryder1978 said:

"Not to mention the expense needed to staff and secure the Trumps sham of a marriage with their separate living arrangements."

You mean like Slick Willy and Hitlery in the 90's???

 

Whatever the Clinton's state of their marriage in private, they presented themselves as a couple and lived together in the White House. The Trumps meanwhile actually look like they are uncomfortable with each other. Melania is up in NYC with her own security detail while Donald is at the White House or jetting to some golf resort. Probably with some porn star.

P.S. The sell-date on Clinton-bashing is long past. You guys really need to get new material.

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1 hour ago, Strider said:

Thanks for the comedy. By the way, my friends with cancer did not smoke pot beforehand. They were prescribed it after they contracted cancer to deal with the pain. But in your narrowminded Trump-bubble everyone is a dope who smokes pot, no matter the reason. It's just as IpMan and others said about your posts on sexual harassment...you are incapable of nuance in your discussions. Everything is rigid black-and-white, damn the facts.

More comedy gold. Your words could easily apply to the Trumps, who have practically racked up more tax-payer funded golf-trips in one year than all the previous presidents combined. Not to mention the expense needed to staff and secure the Trumps sham of a marriage with their separate living arrangements.

Strider.

Im very sorry for your friends with cancer, everybody knows people who have died of this terrible disease, I will keep them in my prayers. But my opinion on pot heads goes back long before I ever even heard about the man you hate. Im old enough to remember all the high school losers hopped up on drugs. I alwasy thought the ones from rich familes were the biggest losers because they had so much already going for them to waste their lives.  I grew up pretty poor and really still am that by many standards but I wouldnt waste a nickel on something as expensive as drugs. When I have a little extra I try to share my money with others in need insted of just going out and wasting it on drugs which is just selfish.

Correct me if Im wrong but isn't the guy you hate not accepting a salary?  And didnt the other guy before play golf too in Hawaii? And didnt his wife take her mother on expensive vacations too? And talk about sham marraiges didn't the one who lost  last time married to the guy who used to be in office  have a sham real sham marriage?

I think it sad that you think Im the person to talk down to Strider, I thought we were always friendly to each other but I guess that only went so far as when I voted the way you approve. Now that I have a different opinion I guess I have no value to you but I can take it. I just hope Im not debating with you when you are high because then we wouldnt be having an honest conversation. 

 

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