Knebby Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 No harm in starting a little early in case I don't get here tomorrow - it's just about beer o' clock over here, so I will raise a glass and wish you all well. Enjoy your celebrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabe Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks for the nice words. It's beer o'clock at my house as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks Knebby!!! Happy 4th to everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levee Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thank You Knebs. Remember kids ,don't drink and do fireworks. Get all the drinking out of the way before you start handling explosives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lena_Zep Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I have nothing with 4th of July, but I wanted to wish to all of you (Americans) happy... 4th of July. :cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Action Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thank you kindly. And may all of you have a wonderful 4th, American or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 As Apu once said, "Celebrate the birth of your country by blowing up a small chunk of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHD Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'd like to add my good wishes to everyone Stateside. Have a great holiday and I hope you enjoy your celebrations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamarine Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks, Knebby, this will be my first 4th of July as an American as well as a Brit, so I plan to celebrate twice as hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Action Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks, Knebby, this will be my first 4th of July as an American as well as a Brit, so I plan to celebrate twice as hard. That's the spirits! Uh, I mean spirit. Oh bullshit, I DID mean spirits. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZepChick Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Happy 4th to everyone...Have fun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aen27 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thank you! Though I have to work most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks, Knebby, this will be my first 4th of July as an American as well as a Brit, so I plan to celebrate twice as hard. :cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 No harm in starting a little early in case I don't get here tomorrow - it's just about beer o' clock over here, so I will raise a glass and wish you all well. Enjoy your celebrations. Thank's Knebby and to all the others who are not American's thank's to you to... and to the good old US of A'ers happy birthday America!!! PS I gave up parting over two years ago but ... carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 My very best wishes to all our Stateside friends - I hope you all have a very happy 4th July - enjoy! Edit: typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 No harm in starting a little early in case I don't get here tomorrow - it's just about beer o' clock over here, so I will raise a glass and wish you all well. Enjoy your celebrations. Thank you Knebby! I plan on doing what I always do on the 4th...WATCH WIMBLEDON!!! Strawberry wafffles and orange juice and coffee and Wimbledon...it comes on EARLY in the morning here in California...6am! Venus vs. Serena Saturday and Federer vs. Roddick Sunday...I'll be cheering for Federer over the Yank Roddick(sorry he beat Britain's best hope Andy Murray today Knebby). Then later on the 4th, we're going to see John Fogerty at the Hollywood Bowl w/the orchestra and firework show. Cheers! Ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thank you Knebby! I plan on doing what I always do on the 4th...WATCH WIMBLEDON!!! Strawberry wafffles and orange juice and coffee and Wimbledon...it comes on EARLY in the morning here in California...6am! Venus vs. Serena Saturday and Federer vs. Roddick Sunday...I'll be cheering for Federer over the Yank Roddick(sorry he beat Britain's best hope Andy Murray today Knebby). Then later on the 4th, we're going to see John Fogerty at the Hollywood Bowl w/the orchestra and firework show. Cheers! Ta! Sounds like a good day you have planned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_72 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Happy 4th of July everyone! Be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Zeppnile Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Declaration of Independence (Adopted by Congress on July 4, 1776) The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands. He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers. He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature. He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation: For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states: For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world: For imposing taxes on us without our consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury: For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses: For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies: For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments: For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends. We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor. New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton Massachusetts: John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glicine Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Wow, how time flies! Happy 4th of July! And Pete Sampras will be there at the final in Wimbeldon! Though I think Federer will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabe Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks, Knebby, this will be my first 4th of July as an American as well as a Brit, so I plan to celebrate twice as hard. Wow! I thought I had detected a slight southern twang in your posts of late Aqua. Mucho congrats on becoming an American citizen. Word of caution though. A double celebration can possibly lead to bed rest the following day. Not to imply that would happen in your case. Though, it would in mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsteps of Dawn Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks, everybody and congrats to Aquamarine!! I was just in Nashville, and while I was there I visited a plantation in nearby Franklin that was used as a Confederate field hospital during the Civil War. My parents and I were born and raised in California, so I have to say that the Civil War has never quite had the impact on me that it should have had, but after seeing bloodstains still on the floors left from soldiers wounded 150 years ago fighting for what they believed in (I don't care if it was Union or Confederate - that's a hell of a thing to go through), I have a newfound appreciation for the sacrifices and struggles this country has gone through in its formation. I've always been proud to be an American, but there's nothing like a kick in the pants like that to make you really, really appreciate what you have. (If you're ever in Franklin, TN, do yourself a huge favor and go to Carnton Plantation. The guy who gave the tour was also the head historian there, and my god, he was the best storyteller I've ever heard. He had everybody in tears halfway through the tour, and for good reason - it's a hell of a story. He actually has a book out called For Cause & For Country that I bought if you're interested in the Civil War; I haven't read it yet, but if it's anything like his tours it ought to be one interesting read.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNK08 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 The holiday is meaningless. No one really "gets it". It's just an excuse for some fireworks. If Americans really understood and appreciated the significance of the events behind this holiday, they certainly wouldn't allow the bullshit that is happening to this country now. There is no independence. We are just becoming an incompetent, freedomless, nanny state. If only the founding fathers could see us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Action Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 The holiday is meaningless. No one really "gets it". It's just an excuse for some fireworks. If Americans really understood and appreciated the significance of the events behind this holiday, they certainly wouldn't allow the bullshit that is happening to this country now. There is no independence. We are just becoming an incompetent, freedomless, nanny state. If only the founding fathers could see us now. As much as it PAINS me to read this-it's hard for me to refute. Actually I DO "get it". But I'm one of the few. Nobody in the White House does, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levee Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 The holiday is meaningless. No one really "gets it". It's just an excuse for some fireworks. If Americans really understood and appreciated the significance of the events behind this holiday, they certainly wouldn't allow the bullshit that is happening to this country now. There is no independence. We are just becoming an incompetent, freedomless, nanny state. If only the founding fathers could see us now. Speak for yourself. Ever heard the term "In my opinion?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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