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Also, a thumbs up to the new John Frieda foam permanent hair color. I was really skeptical about the foam process, but I had a coupon for a free box so I gave it a try and was very pleased. It had great coverage, the color stayed true and didn't fade, and it came with cool black gloves that were much higher quality than those flimsy plastic ones other manufacturers provide.

Virginia (or anyone), have you tried the John Frieda hair color more than one time? I wonder if anyone else had a similar experience to mine: the first time I tried it, like you, I was raving about it, especially how long-lasting it was. But the second time I used, it was crap! Didn't cover the gray like before and didn't last long. Maybe I did something wrong the second time, but it's not likely - it's not a complicated process and I'm an old hand at this stuff :)

I love the other John Frieda products (Frizz Ease line); the dude should be knighted for his services to womankind, like Jagger.

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Hi 'Slave'

how is it going with those spurs, any idea of what they are going to do for you?

Do you have Treatment for your Knees? The 'Rooster Booster' Injections are quite good, I have them every 6 months, along with Knee Washes every 18-24 months...

hi fool

i am trying to just stick with a stronger anti-inflammatory for the back spur. i'm still in pain, so may have to get the injections soon.

i haven't heard of the rooster booster or the knee wash, maybe mines not that bad?

my left leg wakes me up a few times a night with pain. sometimes it's the hip, sometimes the knee, sometimes all down my leg! but, funny thing is, i never feel it through the day when i am standing all day at work. but as soon as i lay down to rest ...... why is this, i wonder? taking the weight off lets the joint relax!

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Virginia (or anyone), have you tried the John Frieda hair color more than one time? I wonder if anyone else had a similar experience to mine: the first time I tried it, like you, I was raving about it, especially how long-lasting it was. But the second time I used, it was crap! Didn't cover the gray like before and didn't last long. Maybe I did something wrong the second time, but it's not likely - it's not a complicated process and I'm an old hand at this stuff :)

I love the other John Frieda products (Frizz Ease line); the dude should be knighted for his services to womankind, like Jagger.

Not yet; the shade I used was a little too dark for me and they didn't have as many options in reddish brown :) Thanks for the heads up on that; I usually go a bit lighter in the summer.

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hi fool

i am trying to just stick with a stronger anti-inflammatory for the back spur. i'm still in pain, so may have to get the injections soon.

i haven't heard of the rooster booster or the knee wash, maybe mines not that bad?

my left leg wakes me up a few times a night with pain. sometimes it's the hip, sometimes the knee, sometimes all down my leg! but, funny thing is, i never feel it through the day when i am standing all day at work. but as soon as i lay down to rest ...... why is this, i wonder? taking the weight off lets the joint relax!

Hi 'Slave'

hope this explains the 'Rooster Booster'

The anti- inflammatory should help with your nightime pain as well..

I did start out having the Cortison injections untill they were no longer effective, cannot take any of the anti-inflammatories as I have acid reflux disease...

Also known as: Gel Injections/ Rooster Comb injections/Intra-Articular Injections/Hyaluronan injections/Joint-Fluid Therapy

Hyaluronan is the name of the medication found in gel injections, and it is made from chicken combs (hence the name rooster comb injections). It is injected into the knee joint to help temporarily relieve symptoms of arthritis knee pain.

It is thought that hyaluronan, a gel like substance, works by mimicking synovial fluid found in the joint; therefore, lubricating the joint allowing for pain relief. These injections are supposed to act like WD-40 for your knee joint.

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Hi 'Slave'

hope this explains the 'Rooster Booster'

The anti- inflammatory should help with your nightime pain as well..

I did start out having the Cortison injections untill they were no longer effective, cannot take any of the anti-inflammatories as I have acid reflux disease...

Also known as: Gel Injections/ Rooster Comb injections/Intra-Articular Injections/Hyaluronan injections/Joint-Fluid Therapy

Hyaluronan is the name of the medication found in gel injections, and it is made from chicken combs (hence the name rooster comb injections). It is injected into the knee joint to help temporarily relieve symptoms of arthritis knee pain.

It is thought that hyaluronan, a gel like substance, works by mimicking synovial fluid found in the joint; therefore, lubricating the joint allowing for pain relief. These injections are supposed to act like WD-40 for your knee joint.

thanks fool!

do you experience what i was talking about ? the night pain only? i mean, i have felt it during the day a bit, but nothing like at night. it's so bad it wakes me up. i'm so tired ...... :(

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thanks fool!

do you experience what i was talking about ? the night pain only? i mean, i have felt it during the day a bit, but nothing like at night. it's so bad it wakes me up. i'm so tired ...... :(

Both my knees are a constant irratation, but no not only night pain. May be you have what they call 'restless leg syndrome'

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thanks fool!

do you experience what i was talking about ? the night pain only? i mean, i have felt it during the day a bit, but nothing like at night. it's so bad it wakes me up. i'm so tired ...... :(

Hi Slave.......I have a numbness sensation and occasional annoying pain that has been gradually getting worse from what I think is nerve damage. It happens when I stand too long in one place and alot at night when I sleep. It wakes me up quite often so I toss and turn alot at night. I found my condition is most probably Meralgia Parasthetica and a residual from my surgery from years ago, age and being out of shape.

http://en.wikipedia....a_paraesthetica

My back put me down last night as I have been doing too much lately. Probably didn't help to be climbing scaffolding last week and now I'm paying for it. The inflammation is running rampant and haven't taked myself to the doctor to get anything stronger than Aleve. Just don't like to let life experiences pass me by just from a bit of back trouble. I suppose I will have to change my mindset and realize I am not 25 anymore. I don't mind getting older, just don't like the body breakdown that comes along with it.

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Hi Slave.......I have a numbness sensation and occasional annoying pain that has been gradually getting worse from what I think is nerve damage. It happens when I stand too long in one place and alot at night when I sleep. It wakes me up quite often so I toss and turn alot at night. I found my condition is most probably Meralgia Parasthetica and a residual from my surgery from years ago, age and being out of shape.

http://en.wikipedia....a_paraesthetica

My back put me down last night as I have been doing too much lately. Probably didn't help to be climbing scaffolding last week and now I'm paying for it. The inflammation is running rampant and haven't taked myself to the doctor to get anything stronger than Aleve. Just don't like to let life experiences pass me by just from a bit of back trouble. I suppose I will have to change my mindset and realize I am not 25 anymore. I don't mind getting older, just don't like the body breakdown that comes along with it.

sorry to hear about your pain! hope you get better soon!

i don't think my leg pains are due to that cause, i think it's arthritis, aggravated by being overweight. i'm trying to lose wight atm. not easy!

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I'd guess mine lasted about a year. It wasn't as bad as I expected them to be. During that transition I did take alot of vitamin and herbal supplements. Not sure if they made a difference but they didn't hurt. As far as the hormonal supplement goes, you just need to find what works for you if you decide to go that route. Black Cohosh is common but did not help me at all. I took one that had wild yam root, dong quai oatstraw and a flower pollen. The hot flashes are especially noticable at night but come on during the day too.

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Ah, ok. I thought you were saying that Emily Bronte was a better writer than her sister Charlotte. Charlotte was good, but Emily was better. IMO.

I'd take Charlotte over Emily any day. Charlotte was the most prolific of the Bronte sisters, and I have always preferred Jane Eyre to Wuthering Heights which I consider to be a rather bleak and depressing novel. Anne shouldn't be overlooked either. The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is just as worthy of recognition.

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I'd take Charlotte over Emily any day. Charlotte was the most prolific of the Bronte sisters, and I have always preferred Jane Eyre to Wuthering Heights which I consider to be a rather bleak and depressing novel. Anne shouldn't be overlooked either. The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is just as worthy of recognition.

+1 THIS!

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I read this article in the Los Angeles Times last month, and kept forgetting to post it here...finally remembered. I think it's worth discussing.

Life choices dwarf pollutants in breast cancer risk, report finds

A comprehensive study says women are better off focusing on everyday choices such as healthful eating and alcohol use than on environmental pollutants to reduce breast cancer risk.

By Melissa Healy, Los Angeles Times

December 7, 2011

There's an environmental link to breast cancer — but chemicals in the air and water may be the least of women's worries.

A comprehensive study released Wednesday finds that substances to which women voluntarily expose themselves every day — fattening foods, alcohol, cigarettes, oral contraceptives and hormone replacement drugs — are far clearer drivers of risk than industrial chemicals such as bisphenol A and phthalates and a long list of feared additives and environmental pollutants.

The study, "Breast Cancer and the Environment: A Life Course Approach," was produced by the Institute of Medicine, a panel of independent medical experts most often tapped by government agencies for authoritative advice.

This time, however, the wide-ranging look at possible environmental contributors to breast cancer was requested and paid for — to the tune of about $1 million — by the organization Susan G. Komen for the Cure, the patient advocacy giant that has made pink ribbons synonymous with support for breast cancer research.

Its findings are likely to perturb some environmental advocates, who have warned that the burgeoning industrial use of "endocrine-disrupting chemicals" has set the stage for a plague of breast and other hormone-related cancers in humans.

But though the expert panel concluded that many such chemicals have a "biologically plausible" role in promoting invasive breast cancer, it cautioned that research has so far failed to establish a clear link between these omnipresent chemicals and the new breast tumors found in more than 230,000 women each year in the U.S.

Instead, the team of toxicologists, epidemiologists and clinical cancer experts focused on the immediate role that women's decisions about diet, exercise, medical care and prescription drugs may have on their risk of developing breast cancer. Although such influences may not fit popular notions of disease-causing environmental factors, the panel defined "environment" in the broadest possible sense, including all the factors other than genes that shape a woman's health prospects.

Despite many women's fears of environmental culprits over which they have little control, research linking breast cancer risk to the factors highlighted in the report is far stronger, said breast cancer specialist Dr. Patricia Ganz, who conducts research and clinical work at UCLA's Jonsson Comprehensive Cancer Center and was not an author of the report.

"Everyone thinks there's an easy fix, that there was something they put in the drinking water" that can be removed to prevent breast cancer, Ganz said. But the truth about cancer prevention, she said, "is closer to home. … This would be exactly the way I would counsel my patients."

The report, 20 months in the making, acknowledges there are many unknowns. It calls on the Food and Drug Administrationto require better proof from drug makers, before and after market approval, that their products do not increase women's risk of breast cancer.

It also cites clear evidence that high exposures to ionizing radiation increase breast cancer risk, and says that physicians and patients should carefully weigh the potential benefits of diagnostic imaging scans such as computed tomography, or CT, scans before ordering them. (Because mammograms use low-dose radiation and can help detect tumors, the report's authors urged women not to avoid them, but to discuss their frequency with a physician.)

And it urges future research to focus on pivotal moments in women's development — in the womb, at puberty, during childbearing years and at menopause — when even small exposures to suspect chemicals or to everyday choices such as alcohol consumption might have an outsize effect on breast cancer risk.

But the surest ways to drive down breast cancer risk, researchers concluded, lie with women themselves.

The report cites mounting evidence that obesity and body fatness — and particularly weight gain at menopause and after — raise a woman's risk of developing invasive breast cancer, as well as a welter of research linking breast cancer to a woman's alcohol consumption, from young adulthood through after menopause, when invasive breast tumors are most likely to appear.

It also notes that numerous studies find exercising drives down a woman's risk of breast cancer, and that women who use oral contraceptives or hormone replacements containing estrogen and progestin for several years are more likely to develop breast cancer than those who do not.

But after conducting an exhaustive review of suspect chemicals used in industrial, agricultural and consumer-goods manufacture, the panel was far more circumspect.

Though established links do exist for many industrial chemicals, including benzene, ethylene oxide and 1,3-butadiene, risk of any significance appears limited to small numbers of women whose jobs expose them to significant quantities of the chemicals, the report says.

As for other chemicals in wide circulation that are the subject of intense scrutiny and activism — including parabens in cosmetics, growth hormones in livestock, phthalates in plastics and bisphenol A in food and drug packaging — evidence of danger is too scant to recommend avoidance, the panel said.

UC San Francisco's Robert A. Hiatt, one of the report's authors, said "the ideal study" would follow a large population of girls and women from before birth to the grave, precisely measuring environmental exposures at every age. But "we can't really do that efficiently with humans at low cost," said Hiatt, who is director of population research at the university's Helen Diller Family Comprehensive Cancer Center.

There may be simpler ways to detect breast cancer hazards that have been overlooked, Hiatt said, including measuring chemical exposures in more precise ways.

The report's sponsors said the findings pointed the way forward "to gain a full understanding of what substances can be definitively linked to breast cancer."

Komen for the Cure President Elizabeth Thompson told The Times that the report's recommendations for future research would be key in guiding the foundation's $5-million research budget next year.

Despite its focus on life choices, the report may not deflect environmental groups from focusing on synthetic chemicals.

"It is essential to minimize and prevent these exposures," said Olga Naidenko, senior research scientist for the Washington-based Environmental Working Group.

melissa.healy@latimes.co

Copyright © 2012, Los Angeles Times

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my mum died in 1975 aged 41 with breast cancer.

she never smoked, was a sportswoman, breast fed 3 kids, was only on the pill a very short time ......

she was just that unlucky one that gets it for no reason.

i got thyroid cancer when i was 30, and i have never smoked, always eaten lots of fruit and veg, wholewheat cereals etc etc

however

i lived under a huge power pole at the time, and there is controversy surrounding those.

who knows? .........

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girls, i''ve been getting hardly any sleep lately, due to getting woken up with not only the usual 1--3 trips to the loo, but also with nasty pain in my left leg. i think i have some arthritis in my knees, but this pain is in the outer calf, and outer thigh. really quite nasty. i've been on anti-inflammatories for back pain ( spur on the spine ), but these don't seem to be helping with this leg pain. i'm absolutely exhausted after waking 3-6 times a night. i usually don't get to sleep till 10.30, and my alarm goes off at 5am so ....... :(

has anyone tried fish/krill oil? it's supposed to help with arthritis, and also good for the heart too. think i'll get some soon ....

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this pain is in the outer calf, and outer thigh. really quite nasty. i've been on anti-inflammatories for back pain ( spur on the spine ), but these don't seem to be helping with this leg pain.

Sounds like sciatic nerve pain, which is originated/based from your lower spine problems.

The sciatic nerve runs from your lower spine (L3/L4 etc), down over your outer hips and all the way down to your feet.

See your doctor/specialist again ..... Low dose Prednisolne (Steriod) and Panadol Osteo.

Heat packs also work wonders (wheat ones heated in the microwave)

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Slave to Zep

Don't assume your leg pain is originating from your joints, it may be muscular. I have had the same symptoms with leg pain which worsened when lying down. I have found Pilates and yoga have helped tremendously with aches and pains. I started doing stretch and basic yoga along with Pilates 4 years ago and have had very good results. I am fortunate to work with a personal trainer, she stretches my hip flexors, quads and hamstrings which has relieved my leg pain.

Like you, I assumed the pain was from my joints. The best advice I can give you is to try stretching under the guidance of a professional trainer either one on one or join a class. Having a MD clear you first is probably a good idea to make sure there is no joint disease. Even if you do have some arthritic changes a physician would probably clear you to do stretching with a qualified instructor.

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Since it is a well-known fact that men are wimps when it comes to pain and childbirth, I am posting this article here, for all you tough dames. It makes my eyes water reading about it...

Woman Delivers 14 Pound Baby ‘Naturally’

By Maria Vultaggio on January 31st, 2012

Whoa baby, lately it seems women have been giving birth to some big babies! Just a few months ago a woman from Texas gave birth to a sixteen-pound infant.

Expectedly, these women have been birthing their children with pain medication to make the labor easier.

However, a woman from Iowa gave birth to a baby who almost weighed fourteen pounds, not to mention she did it all “naturally.”

“We just wanted to avoid any unnecessary procedures,” Kendall Stewardson said today on “Good Morning America.” “We decided to fight for that (a natural delivery) because we wanted to try to lower my chances of getting a C-section.

Baby Asher Stewardson made parents Kendall and Joshua Stewardson proud as he joined their family as their second child. The couple’s first baby, Judah, was born at twelve pounds so they were not too surprised with what Asher weighed at his birth.

“We were just really blessed that God enabled my body to be able to do this well,” Stewardson explained on “GMA,” “It went really fast. Six hours is something no one can complain about.”

After the six-hour labor, Stewardson’s second child measured in at 23 1/2 inches long, weighing 13 pounds 12 ounces.

As it is healthier for the child, many women are attempting to give birth without the facilitation of drugs.

“We had decided to research all of our options before we had Judah just to see what would happen to me,” Stewardson said. “We started to research doing it naturally. There are a lot of options for women out there, but this seemed like the best thing for me and Judah, and then Asher.”

Stewardson went on to explain that when a woman gives birth to a bigger baby, there’s less baby weight to lose after the pregnancy; another benefit of having a child naturally!

Both mother and child are doing well.

http://youtu.be/5ar84S_9S60

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Big baby: Asher Stewardson was born Jan. 26, 2012, weighing 13 pounds, 13 ounces.

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Big surprise: An Iowa woman delivered a 13 pound baby Thursday without painkillers or a cesarean section

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Not the first: The newborn named Asher is just one pound more than the birth weight of his older brother (shown in the arms of his father left) who was 12 pounds

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Record: Asher's weight of 13 pounds took the record for the Mercy Medical Hospital but was just short of the state's record of 14 pounds in 1980

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Healthy: Medical staff say that Asher is completely healthy despite his size and his nine-day delay in birth

Watch video here:

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz1lGggJqvC

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