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Dzldoc

Government takeover of your PC Must see this!

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you are using a computer? It's connected to the internet? It has an operating sistem?

made for who?

you are property.

no alarm, is legal...

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I went there, just a bunch of crap about some program and car dealers. Didn't do anything to my computer.

The site looks completely different from the video as well. It's green and there's no link to "submit" anything.

Anyway, I call BULLSHIT. The government can't just start monitoring your IP address from clicking some stupid agreement. Especially since I don't even live in the U.S.

They CERTAINLY can't "Take over your computer" or anything like that, that's bullshite. You would have to be completely stupid and have no firewall or protection of any kind for someone to hijack your computer.

I can't believe anyone fell for this. Take a course or something in basic networking before you shoot your mouths off.

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Picard-no-facepalm.jpg

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I weep for humanity. Or, at least Republicans.

http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/clunkers.asp

This is nothing but a dumb ploy -- that can only ensnare equally dumb people to not participate in a government program, because BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW IT'S TOO SOCIALIST!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Here's some more information that may be helpful to those who believed Glenn's absurd claim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic

Logic, from the Greek λογική (logiké)[1] is defined by the Penguin Encyclopedia to be "The formal systematic study of the principles of valid inference and correct reasoning".[2] As a discipline, logic dates back to Aristotle, who established its fundamental place in philosophy. It became part of the classical trivium, a fundamental part of a classical education, and is now an integral part of disciplines such as mathematics, computer science, and linguistics.

Logic concerns the structure of statements and arguments, in formal systems of inference and natural language. Topics include validity, fallacies and paradoxes, reasoning using probability and arguments involving causality and time. Logic is also commonly used today in argumentation theory.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacies

A fallacy is an argument which provides poor reasoning in support of its conclusion. Fallacies differ from other bad arguments in that many people find them psychologically persuasive. That is, people will mistakenly take a fallacious argument to provide good reasons to believe its conclusion. An argument can be fallacious whether or not its conclusion is true.

Fallacies can be categorized in a number of ways. For example, formal fallacies rely on an incorrect logical step; informal fallacies do not rely on incorrect logical deduction. Verbal fallacies use some property of language to mislead, for example, ambiguity or verbosity.

Fallacies are also often concerned with causality, which is not strictly addressed by logic. They may also involve implicit (or unstated) assumptions.

Fallacies often exploit emotional triggers in the listener or interlocutor. For example, an argument may appeal to patriotism or family or may exploit an intellectual weakness of the listener. Fallacious arguments may also take advantage of social relationships between people. For example, citing an important individual's support for a view on any other subject than the one discussed in order to encourage listeners to either agree or disagree with that person.

Considered by themselves, fallacies can often seem obviously bad. However, arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure the logical argument - deliberately or not - making fallacies difficult to diagnose. Also, the component parts of the fallacy may be spread over a large period of time.

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They said the wording has since been changed and most consumers would not access the site.

I can tell you this, I am a federal employee and I won't go to my agencies interweb site

outside of work. ;)

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That part of the site wasn't intended for the general public, and clicking the agreement would have done nothing. I assume the reason they changed the wording was because of how stupidly it was worded.

"However, the statement in question was actually tied to the "Submit Transaction" function on the Dealer Support portion of the web site and related only to a login page for entry to the Enterprise Services Center (ESC) web site at esc.gov, which is used by automobile dealers (not consumers) who have been authorized and registered to participate in the CARS program. That statement did not apply to consumers who might use the site to obtain benefits from the CARS program; it was something consumers would never encounter in the ordinary use of the web site, and it was not something they had to agree to in order to claim benefits from the CARS program. "

There is absolutely nothing to fear from going to ANY website unless you suspect the website might contain malicious scripts that could harm your computer, or use a security flaw to install a virus on your pc.

The government wouldn't even know who you were if you went on that website. They would only know your IP address; if they wanted your personal info they would have to get that information from your Internet Service Provider.

So I fail to see how merely connecting to a web server could put you into some sort of legally binding contract with the government. The mere idea is ridiculous.

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They said the wording has since been changed and most consumers would not access the site.

I can tell you this, I am a federal employee and I won't go to my agencies interweb site

outside of work. ;)

Neither do I ! If they want me or there's something I need to know, they know where I work <_<

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How's it going "Dzldoc" A.K.A. Charles? I hope all is well with you and your son. I've always known that the govenment was doing this.

Check this out: www.rob-profile.com/index.htm

Get ready for one of the many rude awakenings that our government has been hiding from all of us. Its in regards to Government Mind Control and harmful electronic surveillance that are used as an evil form of harassment tactics with fatal results such as unexplained insanity, computer hacking and complete control of the tageted victims life leaving him at their mercy. This website is real and is still an ongoing reality. If you get a chance, google Government Mind Control and see what comes up. Please don't get me wrong, I love my country and my so-called corrupted government, I just don't believe in the corrupted officials and politicians that run this country. In my opinion, I don't believe that our government is looking in our country's best interest. And all of this technology is only some of the hidden and classified secrets that our government has been covering up so all Americans will not read the real truth that would expose the real corruption and the selfish intentions that our government really has towards the American people. All of this evil technology sickens me, and if this technology continues to improve with greater advancement unimagineable and ends up in the wrong hands, the future for our youths of today look very slim. ROCK ON my friend!

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Hey ZFF, yes there are a lot of things going on that the general public is unaware of. :ph34r:

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The majority are untruths but not all, don't let your gaurd down.

And the facts stick out like a sore thumb once you've witnessed it for yourself. Usually it's nothing more than the agency looking the part and meeting it's quota demands to justify a budget increase.

However, you don't want to be around when it happens

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R.O.B., Dale Gribble or Rusty Shackelford perhaps..........hmmmm.

:lol: I'm not that bad but, point well taken

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