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I think I understand your feelings about "Taxi Driver", as I have had problems with this film, too. But I wouldn't say it's a "dumb movie"; more that it's a movie about a "dumb guy".

De Niro's Travis Bickle is barely literate, can barely mumble more than a syllable or two. It is implied that he's a Vietnam Vet, and whatever he experienced over there has damaged or de-humanized him in some way.

He is such an idiot, or anti-social, that he takes Cybill Shepherd to a porno movie on their first date. Now, I realize that "porno-chic" was in vogue at the time of the filming of "Taxi Driver". Post-"Deep Throat", it became hip for thrill-seeking couples to go to see it. But only an idiot would do something like what Travis Bickle does in the movie. I remember I lost all respect and sympathy for the character right then and there. After that, the film becomes an exercise in vigilante violence.

Granted, a well-made, well-photographed, well-acted, and well-scored film...but in the long run, sort of gratuitous and pointless. Especially with that tacked on ending.

I've gotta say though...De Niro was great as that dumbass Travis Bickle.

It's funny, when I first saw it back in the 70's it was the rage (You talkin' to me?) but recently I saw the TCM commentator talking about how our views of movies change over the years and that's right on with me on this flick. A lot of Scorsese's films irk me, but not all are bad. I do think he tends to overdo it with the music though in a lot of his movies. 'Mean Streets' really got on my nerves. :zzz::lol:

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I didn't see Taxi Driver or Saturday Night Fever until the 90's when I caught them on HBO. I liked them both and was pleasantly surprised by Saturday Night Fever since there was much more to it than I was expecting. In recent months I've continued to play catch up with several movies I missed the first time around such as Velvet Goldmine, Being John Malkovich, Kramer vs. Kramer, Ordinary People and Grand Canyon. Midnight Cowboy may be next.

Being John Malkovich is awesome.

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Yeah "Being John Malkovich" is fantastic!

.....speaking of JM, "Rounders" with JM, Matt Damon and Ed Norton is a great movie too imho, especially if anyone is a Texas Hold'em fan......ciao

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Yo fishhead how you doin......ever heard of a band called fishbone ?

Saw it when it came out . my memory's a bit naff - will after to watch it again

Yeah "Being John Malkovich" is fantastic!

.....speaking of JM, "Rounders" with JM, Matt Damon and Ed Norton is a great movie too imho, especially if anyone is a Texas Hold'em fan......ciao

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Being John Malkovich is awesome.

Any Charlie Kaufman-scripted film is awesome. Do yourself a favour and also check out "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind", "Adaptation" and "Synecdoche, New York"(also a must for you Phillip Seymour Hoffman fans).

Speaking of Hoffman and his award-winning turn as Truman Capote, I would like to direct your attention to the little seen Toby Jones take on Truman Capote, "Infamous", based upon George Plimpton's book on Capote, written and directed by Douglas McGrath. It had the unfortunate timing of coming out the year after Hoffman's "Capote", and it deals with much of the same subject matter...the "In Cold Blood" period.

But it has its own perspective...it is not a copycat film by any means, and in some ways, the film and Toby Jones' performance as Truman Capote is better than the Hoffman version. It also has a great Harper Lee, played by Sandra Bullock. In fact, there are a heap of good actors in the cast...Hope Davis, Jeff Bridges, Daniel Craig, Sigourney Weaver, Isabella Rossellini.

My first exposure to Truman Capote came as an author. I knew him first as the guy who wrote the book that the movie "In Cold Blood" was based on. I saw the movie in 1969 or 70, then read the book a couple of years later. That's when I discovered he also wrote "Breakfast at Tiffany's", so I read that as well. Around the same time...this would be 1972...Truman Capote popped up as one of the unctuous hangers-on following the Rolling Stones' STP tour that summer. A few television appearances followed, where I first got a fix on his physical appearance, including his unusual speaking style.

Then, in 1976, he appeared in a goofy comedy "Murder by Death", a spoof of Augusta Christie and mysteries in general. Starring Peter Falk, Peter Sellers, Maggie Smith, Alec Guinness, David Niven, James Coco, and written by Neil Simon, it was a sizable hit when it came out...I went to see it several times..but it is rarely shown today. It is rather tame compared to the "Airport"-"Animal House"-type comedies that came out shortly afterwards, but it is worth a look if you want to see Truman Capote in the flesh.

By now, Truman Capote as a character, or caricature, was firmly established in the public's mind...much like Tom Wolfe was, with his dopey white suits and hat. So, when "Annie Hall" came out in 1977, and Alvy and Annie are people-watching in the park, and he says "Here comes the winner of the Truman Capote look-alike contest", most people got the joke.

Later, in either my junior or senior year in school, I read his "Other Voices, Other Rooms". But it is "In Cold Blood" that first comes to mind when I think of him.

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Yo fishhead how you doin......ever heard of a band called fishbone ?

Saw it when it came out . my memory's a bit naff - will after to watch it again

doing well Wes G and yes, I am familiar with Fishbone, especially the tune "Freddy's Dead". Great song!

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doing well Wes G and yes, I am familiar with Fishbone, especially the tune "Freddy's Dead". Great song!

This is what I think of when I see your name.

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^^^^^lol Type O, yeah I know.....It's my band's name and the worst name in the world, but memorable.....

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^^^

"Billy Elliot" is a fine film and I'm glad you finally caught up with it. Unfortunately it has recently been turned into a maudlin Broadway musical, and methinks that is perhaps the ad you saw...an ad for the musical. For why would a trailer for a 13-year old movie be shown on North Carolina tv at this late date?

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Seems like I saw a trailer for this recently so I had no idea it had originally been released so long ago (2000). Believe it or not, even movies released within the past 10-15 years can seem dated but not this one. This movie has a gritty realism to it that is also one of it's biggest strengths. Some may be turned off by the premise which finds the title character eschewing boxing for ballet but don't let that stand in your way. The pressures he faces, especially at home, only help to strengthen his character as well as his resolve. I thought it was very well done.

Love "Billy Elliot". Surprised you did not mention the soundtrack - did you not care for it? The final scene is gorgeous.

I'll admit to turning on the subtitles for a few viewings. Although they are speaking English, my American ears had a rough time with some of the dialogue. But I've done the same for some American actors.

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^^^

Best use of T. Rex's "Cosmic Dancer" ever.

I saw the movie twice in the theatres...no subtitles that I recall and none needed. But then, I suppose I've gotten used to the various English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish accents and dialects over my lifetime.

I can understand many British movies better than some movies set in the Southern States of the U.S.

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Not nice.

I realize it's early but this has to be the understatement of the year. Did you actually make it all the way through to the end? Why were you watching in the first place? :blink:

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Yes, I made it through, NP. It didn't really bother me at all until quite near the end, IIRC. Anyway, after the true life horrors I've seen, I'm hardened.

I watched it because a friend gave it to me a few months ago (I'd never heard of it before). He made it quite clear that it was a gift, not a loan - he said he knew he wouldn't ever want to watch it again. So yesterday I finally got around to watching it.

Just how notorious is it then?

Oh it's fairly notorious here in the U.S...as any movie with a baby-rape and actual skull-fuck would be. Just about every underground and cult movie website had articles and reviews of the film months before it got any sort of distribution. I don't think it has actually played at any theatres here in the States. Not officially at least. But it is out on DVD after a long delay.

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I've seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (which I loved) but not the other ones. I tend to avoid most anything with Nicholas Cage in it aside from maybe Raising Arizona as nine times out of ten, I simply don't enjoy the movies he's in but I will give Adaptation a chance considering the Charlie Kaufman factor. Another Kaufman movie not mentioned is The Science of Sleep. I liked it but not nearly as much as Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

Given Nicolas Cage's recent output over the last 10-15 years, I can understand your reticence to seeing any of his films. Too many "National Treasure", "Ghost Rider" and sub-"Con Air"-knock-off-wannabes. Plus, his hairpieces have really gotten ridiculous and distracting lately.

But there are some good films among the minefield of his oeuvre. Like many actors who aren't true A-list superstars, Cage has to subsidize the roles he takes because they are interesting with roles that are basically little more than hack-for-hire work for the paycheck.

Not counting the good films early in his career where he barely appears(like "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"), here are the Cage films worth checking out...you already mentioned "Raising Arizona", so I'll leave that out.

"Valley Girl"...also notable for an appearance by the Plimsouls.

"Rumble Fish"

"The Cotton Club"...both "Rumble Fish" and "The Cotton Club" got undeserving critical reviews, in my opinion, and having revisited both lately, I find they hold up much better than better-reviewed films of their time such as "Ordinary People" and "The Big Chill". I think there was an anti-Coppola bias that affected writers perspective.

"Peggy Sue Got Married"

"Moonstruck"

"Wild at Heart"...just saw this tonight at the Cinematheque; David Lynch's take on "The Wizard of Oz"...as always with Lynch, an unusual cast and great soundtrack and visuals by cinematographer Frederick Elmes.

"Guarding Tess"

"Leaving Las Vegas"...Cage won Best Actor and Elisabeth Shue was nominated for Best Actress...this is the dividing line in Cage's career, where the wheels started coming off a bit and he started doing the big bloated action stuff like "The Rock" and doing his crazy Cage-schtick...from here on after you have to tread lightly.

"Face/Off"...I struggled with recommending this but in the end, the brilliance of John Woo's action scenes and the sheer craziness of the premise won out...basically Cage plays John Travolta while Travolta does Cage and it's kind of fun to see them take on each other.

"Adaptation"...Charlie Kaufman's movie within a movie...it's ostensibly an adaptation of Susan Orlean's bestseller "The Orchid Thief", but it's also a film about a Kaufman-like character played by Cage, and the troubles he has trying to adapt the book.

"Matchstick Men"...probably the last good movie he did that I can recommend without reservations.

"Lord of War"

"Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans"...a controversial choice...I have some reservations about the film but many other film buffs I know love this film so you might like it, too.

I was aware of the other Capote movie but not until after I saw Capote. Apparently there was also a movie adaptation of In Cold Blood back in 1967 as well as a mini-series which aired in 1996 but I haven't seen either of them.

That is the movie I saw, the 1967 adaptation directed by Richard Brooks and starring Robert Blake(one of the original 'Little Rascals') and Scott Wilson. It's a measure of how distribution patterns have changed over the years that "In Cold Blood" was still in theatres in 1969.

You have to see this film. It is one of the seminal movies of the 60s and gave me nightmares. Blake is very good in this, and the stunning black and white cinematography is by legend Conrad Hall.

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Seven Psychopaths

just watched it last night.

Before I put it on, I had a notion of what it might be about, but there is way more to it than simply what the title may lead you to believe. It was entertaining.

Walken is always good.

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For some reason the lead actor here reminded me of the young Christopher Walken -his name is Aksel Hennie.

(And just reading his filmography on imdb I realise that he's the same actor who portrayed Max Manus!)

I really liked the acting of Eivind Sander as a security guard, I think his was the only "true" character in the movie, easy-going and good natured but not naïve.

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* As I side note, I didn't place Jo Nesbø as being the lead singer of Di Derre, a very good band from Norway which I happen to like, no wonder they say it's a small world we live in.

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Seven Psychopaths

Another thing to like about this forum. In addition to discussing Led Zeppelin and other music, I enjoy the movie recommendations and reminders (like fishhead's post) about movies I've missed.

Saw "Argo" on the weekend. Thumbs up from me.

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Another thing to like about this forum. In addition to discussing Led Zeppelin and other music, I enjoy the movie recommendations and reminders (like fishhead's post) about movies I've missed.

Saw "Argo" on the weekend. Thumbs up from me.

Hey thanks jb126!....just too bad I can't be like Kramer and the "movie phone".......got Argo sitting beside me too waiting for a free night...cheers

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"Why don't you just tell me the movie you want to see?" Great episode.

Back on topic.

Another movie I watched again yesterday while doing some housework is "The Usual Suspects".

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^^^

Keyser Soze! Great movie.

To escape the drunken hordes last night, I went(this thread is called "I've Been Going...") to see two of the Hope/Crosby/Lamour Road movies: "Road to Morocco" and "Road to Utopia", the third and fourth entries in the series.

Starring Bing Crosby, Bob Hope and Dorothy Lamour, naturally. A very young Anthony Quinn appears in "Road to Morocco".

Great fun, light and silly movies that don't take themselves seriously...but also don't stoop to grotesquery and insult the viewer's intelligence like so many lowbrow comedies today.

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"Why don't you just tell me the movie you want to see?" Great episode.

Back on topic.

Another movie I watched again yesterday while doing some housework is "The Usual Suspects".

jb126, I was just coming back here to mention The Usual Suspects and I saw your post ....freaky!......(thanks for the laugh too re: movie phone) Strider mentioned he liked it too....Great movie......

Another one i loved was Glengarry Glen Ross (Alec Baldwin mesmerizing and the entire cast is incredible)...have you seen it? Ciao

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I just heard that 'Fargo' was directed by that Aflac Duck! :^) (SNL)

We just watched 'The Court Jester' with Danny Kaye. The scene where he's knighted was hilarious. This scene too. :^) Glynis Johns was a hottie.

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We tried watching one called 'The Price Of Milk' (New Zealand) but it was too weird for us. :^(

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