Aquamarine Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 ^^ That's the writer's interpretation that Plant was referring to "Page's and others'" drug use, when he was quite clearly including himself among the "others." So he quit the hard drugs. Plant and Page have sometimes said negative things about each other over the years, of the "sniping" variety (and in private I'm sure they said a lot more), but that's a very long way from saying that Plant blamed all the bad things that ever happened to Zeppelin on Jimmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 OMG... Yeah, he's always spoke highly of Pagey as a band-mate and as a friend, and I'm not saying that he said anything negative about Pagey, however, I do remember one interview- he said Jimmy brought some problems to the band or something like that. Google search does not help because I don't remember the exact words.. I'll let you guys know If I find it. Now please... I'm a (big big) fan, not a critic... Alright, I forgive you. You can stop beating yourself up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evster2012 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Zeppphead, there were quite a few "fanzines" (so-called exclusives) in the early 80's that painted that story. I have yet to see any direct, confirmed quote from Robert Plant that says any such thing. I'm not battling you about it, I just want to see it. All smiles from here! I just want to make it clear for all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evster2012 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 ...scores of similar sentionalist stories followed...but it doesn't make it true Exactly! I heard Angelina has left Brad again, and is adopting without him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 Alright, I forgive you. You can stop beating yourself up now. Zeppphead, there were quite a few "fanzines" (so-called exclusives) in the early 80's that painted that story. I have yet to see any direct, confirmed quote from Robert Plant that says any such thing. I'm not battling you about it, I just want to see it. All smiles from here! I just want to make it clear for all of us. Thank you so much guys.... for forgiving me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamarine Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Sorry, I didn't mean to get on your case either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glicine Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 And I'm still waiting for the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms_zeppelin94 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 The idiocy and hypocracy of WP knows no bounds - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dazed_and_Confused&action=history As for Jimmy & Robert being "negative" - I've got GREAT friends. Most for 6-8 years (which is a long time when you're 15) I love them all to death, but sometimes you just get a bit tired of each other. I'm sure it's much worse actually living & being on tour together. I suppose my point is that even the best of friends can get on each others nerves at times. I wouldn't take all the negative things so seriously. Sometimes you can just randomly go off on someone after a bad day. In Jimmy & Robert case, the press was just there to catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 The idiocy and hypocracy of WP knows no bounds - http://en.wikipedia....&action=history How I [scieberking] Killed a Who Fanboy [[Occultaphenia]] on Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pete_Townshend#Link_to_Malware_Website (Add http://) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Occultaphenia (Add http://) ROFLMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 As for Jimmy & Robert being "negative" - I've got GREAT friends. Most for 6-8 years (which is a long time when you're 15) I love them all to death, but sometimes you just get a bit tired of each other. I'm sure it's much worse actually living & being on tour together. I suppose my point is that even the best of friends can get on each others nerves at times. I wouldn't take all the negative things so seriously. Sometimes you can just randomly go off on someone after a bad day. In Jimmy & Robert case, the press was just there to catch it. You, Ma'am, are damn right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 And I'm still waiting for the quote. Gawwwd i'm still trying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerzubs Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Those “expert level” fans usually act like they don’t have anything to prove, to anyone (as they should, for the matter). This is extremely true. As a young fan I would lash out at people who had never heard or didn't like them and I thought to myself, "what the hell is wrong with these people?" But as time goes by you learn to just accept it and move on. I know they are the Greatest Band Ever and you do too, and that's all that really matters. I was sitting in my friend's car (he listens to rap) and he had some random radio station on and someone had called in and the DJ made a joke about her friend being "Dazed and Confused" of course being a Zeppelin fan I jumped on the sound of those words, but the caller of course said, "what?" and had a dumb founded tone in her voice. It just goes to show more people listen to Zeppelin then you think and if they don't then hell, they are missing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted December 20, 2009 Author Share Posted December 20, 2009 Here (done with consent of other editors/ administrators, so it would be there unremittingly): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin#Legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I will say this about Wikipedia.. They have separate page entries for every single Zeppelin track.. I don't see that with other bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC455 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I will say this about Wikipedia.. They have separate page entries for every single Zeppelin track.. I don't see that with other bands. You gotta remeber this one of the most over analyzed bands in rock, Allmusic.com reviews at leat 2 songs on every album - compared 1 song review in Van Halen's entire catalogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Over-analyzation (?) of the band isn't necessarily a bad thing. The individual song pages don't exactly shit on every little chord or lyric they did, rather try to give an indepth description of their conceptions. That is hardly a knock on the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC455 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Over-analyzation (?) of the band isn't necessarily a bad thing. The individual song pages don't exactly shit on every little chord or lyric they did, rather try to give an indepth description of their conceptions. That is hardly a knock on the band. listen : I never said the site knocked the band. My point is that there is lots of opinions about the band's music who ever write about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Ok, and the overall feedback from this thread so far has been Wikipedia's negative bias towards them. My point being, they can't hate them that much if they give seminal indepth incite to each one of their songs. Savvy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 The 200 million figure is repeated twice in the article now. A figure which is disputed. The dispute had been settled a long long time ago. Actually the 300 million record sales figure was disputed. Secondly, no, there's nothing wrong in repeating a fact in another section. Its the way band articles are done on WP. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 I will say this about Wikipedia.. They have separate page entries for every single Zeppelin track.. I don't see that with other bands. The Beatles are treated the same way, depending upon popularity. Usually they assign a project related to every single big band, for instance WikiProject Led Zeppelin, WikiProject The Who etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 listen : I never said the site knocked the band. My point is that there is lots of opinions about the band's music who ever write about them. Dear. There isn't always negative bias. What do you say about the solid legacy section that I wrote. Secondly I always try to clear up any negative/positive bias on every artists' entry I get to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Yeah, Meg. Wikipedia; in its entirety, is dying... or in other words, suffering a huge loss. Watch out this BBC report. Actually, Atlantic Records, is easily the undisputed, and the best reference to find out estimated record sales and it says 200 million. I've killed and helped indefinitely block two of the most active Who fanboys, but what else I can do?... I'm the only player with no support, or whatsoever. On the other hand, I absolutely love The Who and Monnie, but I always prefer unbiased content on Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conneyfogle Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 We should all contribute to a Zeppepedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppphead Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 We should all contribute to a Zeppepedia Nice one! Very creative!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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