TypeO Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Why is BP (and all the other companies) drilling in such deep water to begin with? Because environmental regulations don't allow them nearer to shore, where it's not as deep and difficult to drill oil, nor as problematic to fix a problem should it occur. If this had happened in a couple hundred feet of water it would have been fixed in a number of days, because divers would have been able to access the site, instead of playing some insane robotic "crane-drop for a toy" method that has even less likelihood of succeeding than the current administration has of actually doing something useful and timely in the wake of this disaster. The world HAS to have oil right now. I'm all in favor of finding alternatives, but until we do we HAVE to use oil. Accidents like this (non tanker-related) are actually extremely rare. The vast majority of spills are a result of TRANSPORTING the oil, not capturing it. But the NIMBY environmental lobbies have forced the oil companies to do what HAS to be done (drill oil) in exponentially more difficult areas, both in terms of production and in safety. In legislating the oil companies into deep-water drilling, they have increased the likelihood of the exact thing they claim to be trying to prevent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi all, Thanks TypeO for explaining why anyone is drilling this deep.Yet,don't forget,they are allowed to and there is NO over site/regulation/safety/contingency plans in place. Come to Cape Cod this summer,or anytime,some sea mammal is beaching itself. KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I think it's a good idea for the dolphins to bleach themselves. That oil is nasty and black. Or is it rusty colored? Anyway, bleach would probably do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I think it's a good idea for the dolphins to bleach themselves. That oil is nasty and black. Or is it rusty colored? Anyway, bleach would probably do the trick. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Why is BP (and all the other companies) drilling in such deep water to begin with? Because environmental regulations don't allow them nearer to shore, where it's not as deep and difficult to drill oil, nor as problematic to fix a problem should it occur. If this had happened in a couple hundred feet of water it would have been fixed in a number of days, because divers would have been able to access the site, instead of playing some insane robotic "crane-drop for a toy" method that has even less likelihood of succeeding than the current administration has of actually doing something useful and timely in the wake of this disaster. Can you please provide sourcing on this? I've heard the same argument from a man whose opinion I generally respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Well, that's my point. We seldom hear about the less attractive members of the plant and animal kingdoms but fawn over those clever dolphins... Feeling neglected? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ZQH2Uzpew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 What the hell ever happened to the belief that all living things share this world? Hell these guys knew this decades ago!! What is it going to take to wake people up? Sadly, it appears the enlightened are the ultimate elite. Few and far between in any age, but always here. Thanks for the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Sadly, it appears the enlightened are the ultimate elite. Few and far between in any age, but always here. Thanks for the video. All it takes is one bad apple.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Feeling neglected? No, I knew this was a dolphin lovers convention when I walked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 All it takes is one bad apple.... Kind of organized illumination vs Markoff Chaney? I kind of side with Chaney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Just to be clear: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetredwine Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Good post. It's amazing how people lose sight of why there are companies out there drilling for oil in the first place. If there wasn't a market for oil then there wouldn't be these disasters in the first place. This is not the first time there has been a major oil disaster in the world. It will continue to happen as long as mankind wants to live the way it does. ... ... and that's my question exactly, WHY does mankind want to live the way it does??? Every store seems to be 95% full of worthless junk, people stressed out trying to keep up - inventing, making, searching for, selling and buying that garbage, and all the while running away from each other. About twenty years ago I chucked a high-paying job, accepted "poverty" and "deprivation" and finally started to really see, understand, and live. Everybody thought I was crazy ... I guess they still do, but every now and then someone says (even if they don't really mean it) "I'd trade my lifestyle for yours in a heartbeat" so I keep the hope up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangani Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Does nobody care about the sharks? It's always fucking Flipper. Spare a thought for Jaws, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripmender Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Does nobody care about the sharks? It's always fucking Flipper. Spare a thought for Jaws, please. Come to think of it, has anyone heard from Spongebob recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Sadly, it appears the enlightened are the ultimate elite. Few and far between in any age, but always here. Thanks for the video. Explain this and are you calling me personally the ultimate elite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetredwine Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Good post. It's amazing how people lose sight of why there are companies out there drilling for oil in the first place. If there wasn't a market for oil then there wouldn't be these disasters in the first place. This is not the first time there has been a major oil disaster in the world. It will continue to happen as long as mankind wants to live the way it does. It's not going to change unless the oil runs out. Seems like this is "mankind" nowadays http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14l75vz-R9w our planet's resources are obviously limited but - nobody ever wants limits, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poindexter Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Explain this and are you calling me personally the ultimate elite? Atlas takes his work a little too serious at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Sharks? We need to protect the MANFISH!!!!!!!! Mike Nelson!! Mike Nelson!!! Your services are needed immediately!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Come to think of it, has anyone heard from Spongebob recently? He lived in a pineapple under the sea.... Now black and swollen and sticky is he.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Atlas takes his work a little too serious at times. Hi Poindexter! Noted , but I would like for Atlas to respond to me directly as it seems his response was directed at me. Hopefully I am mistaken in how I took this, but just want to hear his explanation before I respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi Poindexter! Noted , but I would like for Atlas to respond to me directly as it seems his response was directed at me. Hopefully I am mistaken in how I took this, but just want to hear his explanation before I respond. Let's call it the SNAFU paradox. Basically the SNAFU principle applied to itself. Edit to add: it was intended as a complement not an insult; and also a lament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Let's call it the SNAFU paradox. Basically the SNAFU principle applied to itself. Edit to add: it was intended as a complement not an insult; and also a lament. Seems to me it was, like most of your posts, intended to be deep but was meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Let's call it the SNAFU paradox. Basically the SNAFU principle applied to itself. Edit to add: it was intended as a complement not an insult; and also a lament. Thank you for the response Atlas. I did puzzle me and I am still not sure where the compliment part comes in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Thank you for the response Atlas. I did puzzle me and I am still not sure where the compliment part comes in? I would think that "ultimate elite" isn't always about snobbiness or the "better than thou" position. It's just a highly sensitive, few have it, understanding of a commonality of man and they symbiotic relationship with our environment and those other humans around us. Few exhibit that. The vast majority are in a "get out of my way", I'm taking care of my agenda mentality and to hell with the rest of the world. My interpretation of Atlas' post seemed to compliment you in that he see's you in this regard. Caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I would think that "ultimate elite" isn't always about snobbiness or the "better than thou" position. It's just a highly sensitive, few have it, understanding of a commonality of man and they symbiotic relationship with our environment and those other humans around us. Few exhibit that. The vast majority are in a "get out of my way", I'm taking care of my agenda mentality and to hell with the rest of the world. My interpretation of Atlas' post seemed to compliment you in that he see's you in this regard. Caring. Oracle and Atlas, this I understand...and Thank You Edit: Encore for you:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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