Avacado Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Ninelives - In an interview on World Cafe with David Dye, Robert told him that the follow up to Raising Sand was more like "Raising Hell" (his words exactly). He said he brought in more of what HE wanted to record in HIS particular style and Alison would say: "I don't want to do this, and I don't want to do that" (again Robert's words). To me, what he did on Raising Sand as far as singing style, not song choice, was to accommodate HER style of singing. In another interview, he said something to the effect that when they did try to do songs together for the second album, her input sometimes just wasn't working out I guess to what he expected her to do vocally? I think what it came down to was that she wanted the particular songs chosen to be more in the style of what she likes to do and this time, Robert wasn't going to give in. Hence, it all got put on hold and Band of Joy was born. I kinda think though hat Robert may have been planning on such an album with all his interest in Buddy Miller and how much they musically had in common. They had gotten really close during Raising Sand. And you do know that he and the Band of Joy will be writing new music starting in January so it's not going to end. I'm not feeling any Raising Sand II happening any time soon. Also, yeah, Band of Joy IS very different from Raising Sand but it does kinda have that folksy bluegrass feel to some of the songs, no? I love Band of Joy and 'm hearing it all morph from what I'm seeing/hearing on the live web shows. More of that North African/Moroccan style is starting to show though that Robert loves. Robert even said that by February, the songs are going to sound a lot different than the originals. And, I would really love to hear more stuff similar to the Low songs. I can't wait to hear the new music. Also, can I say on here that I think Buddy Miller is way better than Jimmy Page??? It seems there's no style that man can't play. I am VERY impressed with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 As long time fans who consider Jimmy one of the greatest musicians in the world, my friends and I believe that whatever he wishes to do and however he chooses to live his life, as long as it brings him happiness and peace of mind, we are content. My friends and I don't believe he needs to announce or "admit" anything to anyone other than himself or those within his circle of family and close friends. Jimmy Page long ago gave us more than we ever could have wished for or dreamed of. A lovely and very special man to whom we wish love and light and good health, always. God Bless You Jimmy. Well said ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Also, can I say on here that I think Buddy Miller is way better than Jimmy Page??? It seems there's no style that man can't play. I am VERY impressed with him. No you cannot say that, but thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Oh, i don't know .....they're both incredibly dull....... To each their own but it depends on how you define "dull". While Raising Sand is definitely a subdued album that can't be said of the Band of Joy record, at least it's not to my ears. Again, it depends upon how you choose to define the term. To me, "subdued" (if that's what you're getting at) doesn't equal "dull" in my book. Band of Joy sounds more like the direction Plant was following with The Mighty Rearranger record but with a strong hint of the musical stylings that informed Raising Sand. I find them both to be very exciting, intriguing albums that keep me coming back for more. If someone found III or Zeppelin's other forays into acoustic territory "dull", I could possibly see where they might reach the same conclusion about the Raising Sand and Band of Joy albums but that would be the last word to pop into my mind to describe any of them. Maybe you have a low tolerance for experimentation. If that's the case, I'd have to question your Zeppelin fandom as that is what their entire ideal was based on whether it be blues, country, folk, reggae or any of the other diverse musical paths they journeyed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No you cannot say that, but thanks for asking. : :: : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avacado Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 LOL. Fair enough mstork but you gotta give Buddy his props. I think he sounds amazing even on the Zep stuff. Not trying to copy Jimmy but bringing in his own style and still making it sound hot. Not an easy thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 LOL. Fair enough mstork but you gotta give Buddy his props. I think he sounds amazing even on the Zep stuff. Not trying to copy Jimmy but bringing in his own style and still making it sound hot. Not an easy thing to do. Just teasing, you, I think Buddy is a great player. But when it comes to versatility, who else played on Petula Clark's "Downtown" and "Achilles Last Stand"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazz Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 To each their own but it depends on how you define "dull". While Raising Sand is definitely a subdued album that can't be said of the Band of Joy record, at least it's not to my ears. Again, it depends upon how you choose to define the term. To me, "subdued" (if that's what you're getting at) doesn't equal "dull" in my book. Band of Joy sounds more like the direction Plant was following with The Mighty Rearranger record but with a strong hint of the musical stylings that informed Raising Sand. I find them both to be very exciting, intriguing albums that keep me coming back for more. If someone found III or Zeppelin's other forays into acoustic territory "dull", I could possibly see where they might reach the same conclusion about the Raising Sand and Band of Joy albums but that would be the last word to pop into my mind to describe any of them. Maybe you have a low tolerance for experimentation. If that's the case, I'd have to question your Zeppelin fandom as that is what their entire ideal was based on whether it be blues, country, folk, reggae or any of the other diverse musical paths they journeyed down. I love experimentation. I've loved a lot of RP's solo stuff. I love the acoutic stuff, i love the 'out there' stuff, i like the 'subdued' stuff i love all kinds of music. I just find these two albums dull. You don't. In which case i have to question your hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avacado Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 mstork - Jimmy played on "Downtown"??? Interesting. Hey, I think Jimmy's amazing, don't get me wrong. I just have to say this Buddy Miller. Now he's someone I would have NEVER EVER discovered without him playing for Robert. I really love Robert. Where do you live? Have you gone to any of the shows yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 mstork - Jimmy played on "Downtown"??? Interesting. Hey, I think Jimmy's amazing, don't get me wrong. I just have to say this Buddy Miller. Now he's someone I would have NEVER EVER discovered without him playing for Robert. I really love Robert. Where do you live? Have you gone to any of the shows yet? I live in NJ, haven't seen him yet on this tour but hope to next year. Did see him front row with Alison 2 years ago, that was awesome. I've seen him a bunch of times through the years. More on topic for this thread, I've seen Jimmy a bunch of times too and I just hope I get another chance before too long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I love experimentation. I've loved a lot of RP's solo stuff. I love the acoutic stuff, i love the 'out there' stuff, i like the 'subdued' stuff i love all kinds of music. I just find these two albums dull. You don't. In which case i have to question your hearing. No need to question my hearing (or mine yours), it's actually a difference of opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I just have to say this Buddy Miller. Now he's someone I would have NEVER EVER discovered without him playing for Robert. I really love Robert. W Buddy Miller is very well known in his own right and was named Artist of the Decade for the 00s by No Depression magazine. I first heard of him via Spyboy, Emmylou Harris' backing band for a number of years. His solo records are well worth seeking out as are the albums he's recorded with his wife, Julie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reids Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 They were also on Live at The Bluebird Cafe, which aired in various markets on the tele (here in the US in the early 00's). R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avacado Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Thanks Reids. Julie, I love her voice. It's very distinctive. Kinda has a Cyndi Lauper thing going. Really cool. She's really pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avacado Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 mstork, are you going to the Tower in Philly? I managed to get second row seats! Would like to say hi if you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reids Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Thanks Reids. Julie, I love her voice. It's very distinctive. Kinda has a Cyndi Lauper thing going. Really cool. She's really pretty. you're welcome, Avacado. Yes. She does remind me of Cyndi, vocally. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 mstork, are you going to the Tower in Philly? I managed to get second row seats! Would like to say hi if you are? No, I'm closer to NY and don't get to as many shows as I used to with a young one in the house! But I am hoping to see him in the NY area... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dog Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Any news of him? I can't wait. I think it will be not come to a tour and album... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Zep Girl Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Nope. Still haven't heard anything. Even Jimmy's website is still under construction. It's been that way for awhile. Hopefully something will come to light... <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledrim Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Sadly, I believe that if we don't start hearing any "noise" (rumours, comments etc. from people in the know) in the next few months about Jimmy recording and/or touring, I doubt that anything will happen this year. If this is the case, especially after his comments about doing something in '10 & '11, you have to wonder if in fact he is retired. You would think that Roberts ambitious schedule would inspire Jimmy to do something but I think that Jimmy's ego has taken a hit from his lack of commercial success post Zep. Seems like if he can't play in large arenas, he doesn't want to bother to tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Seems like if he can't play in large arenas, he doesn't want to bother to tour. I don't know about that. I saw 5 of his shows with the Crowes in smaller venues and he looked like he was having the time of his life. I've never seen him look more loose onstage than he did on that tour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I find it depressing when I see that this thread has been updated only to see that there is no update. Hope springs eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 We're only 3 months (well, almost 4) into 2011 and people are already giving up hope? I know it can be hard to do considering the track record behind his latest record but at least show a little bit of faith in the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Oh I get what you are saying Jahfin--it's just when I see the Jimmy to tour in 2011 thread up at the top of the news forum, I cannot click that mouse fast enough. It is just depressing that it always seems to be someone updating us that nothing is happening. My hope is strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dog Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 We're only 3 months (well, almost 4) into 2011 and people are already show a little bit of faith in the man. I would, but he said that he will do the homepage early this year, but there is still nothing. It makes me sad, cause i want to see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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