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Jimmy Page Visits Cuba, Honors Che Guevara

Following in the footsteps of (among many other flower-children) Stephen Stills, Bonnie Raitt, Chrissie Hynde, Jimmy Buffet, and Carole King (who in 2002 serenaded Fidel Castro with a personal "You've Got a Friend"), guitar legend Jimmy Page made the pilgrimage to Fidel Castro's fiefdom this week.

To Led Zeppelin's former guitarist the visit probably seemed, not only fitting, but long overdue. Cuba was, after all, the first nation ruled by bearded long-hairs. Jean Paul Sartre, after all, hailed Cuba's Stalinist rulers as "les Enfants au Pouvoir" (the children in power). Fidel Castro, after all, spoke at Harvard in 1959 on the same bill as pioneer beatnik Allen Ginsberg.

Remove the wispy beard and beret from the (late, thanks to Fidel Castro) revolutionary icon on those posters and t-shirts and you've got Jim Morrison of The Doors. Remove the cowboy hat from the (late, thanks to Fidel Castro) Revolutionary icon Camilo Cienfuegos and you've got Grateful Dead's Gerry Garcia. Circa 1959, Raul Castro with his blond shoulder-length locks was a ringer for Joe Walsh circa Hotel California. These Cuban Stalinists were on the cutting edge of fashion. They pre-empted the Haight Ashbury look by a decade.

Castro's (literally!) captive media reports that Jimmy Page's visit "included tours of historic sites and purchases of souvenirs such as the famous photograph of Che Guevara."

In an interview with the BBC last year, Oscar and Cannes-winner Benicio del Toro explained the painstaking intellectual exertion that inspired his Che-mania: "I hear of this guy, and he's got a cool name, Che Guevara! Groovy name, groovy man, groovy politics! So I came across a picture of Che, smiling, in fatigues, I thought, 'Dammit, this guy is cool-looking!'"

In all likelihood, similar intellectual toil inspired Jimmy Page's recent souvenir shopping spree in Havana. For his role as Che Guevara in Steven Soderbergh's movie Che, Benicio del Toro was recently honored by the peace-loving crowd in Hollywood and Cannes. For headlining their Concert for Peace. Jimmy Page was recently honored with the "Global Peace Award" from the United Nations' Pathway to Peace organization.

http://townhall.com/columnists/HumbertoFontova/2011/01/27/whole_lotta_stupidity%e2%80%94jimmy_page_visits_cuba,_honors_che_guevara

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paul vincent zecchino January 26th, 2011 at 1:53 AM

...and to blazes he can go, an old man fecklessly trying to relive his late 60s/early 70s glory daze, when he and his druggie pals waltzed over here, wrecked the careers of far more talented, decent, rock 'n roll musicians, and pimped off their peculiar brand of narco-toons.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm too young and too fair to be so cynical. Right. I agree. But look, plenty of us who were teens during that era did not live for the next welter of gee-tar gassoff from this motley bunch.

Jimi Hendrix was yet among us when the Zepp's were making their big splash, and he didn't advocate being a drug-addled leftist. Hendrix had served with the 101st Airborne until a serious injury experienced while parachuting disqualified him from further military service. Hendrix and as well Bob Dylan were not political, despite the fact many listeners projected their own beliefs onto them. Hendrix advocated putting aside differences, appreciating music, and expressed love for his country, distinct from the UK/druggie bunch and their slick hollywood promoters who reveled in vomiting their PC bile all over us.

Page & Plant think castro is such a swell guy? Great! Maybe they should stick around after their concerts and put in for assigned 'housing' in fidel's gulag. They'll love it when the water truck comes by with their daily ration.

They'll really like it when fidel cuts off their electricity and packs them off to the canefields.

They can take the express elevator to blazes, all I care. Their music was morose, depressing, and phony, just like the left. Ordinarily, I like morose, depressing music, but only when it's sincere.

http://babalublog.com/2011/01/stairway-to-hell/

^^^

I don't have the heart to inform the author Jimi Hendrix was actually discharged from the US Army because he informed his chain of command he was a homosexual. Yes, Hendrix did serve (stateside) with the 101st Airborne and sustain an ankle injury but he fabricated a claim he knew would result in an immediate discharge to further pursue musical ambitions.

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Good for Jimmy. Every American should be allowed to travel to Cuba as well. After all, we can travel to China, what's the flaming difference? Both are communist countries with a dodgy reputation on human rights. The only reason that U.S. citizens can't go to Cuba is because of the political power that the Cuban-American elite has. It's unconstitutional, IMO, government for the highest bidder.

And that guy, Humberto Fontova, criticizing Jimmy for shopping in Cuba is a hypocritical jerk, IMO. Cuban-Americans are allowed to send loads of cash to their relatives and also visit the island whenever they want. Isn't that "propping up" the evil dictatorship of the Castro brothers? Oh no, that's merely supporting their families. U.S. policy on Cuba is hypocrisy and makes no sense.

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Good for Jimmy. Every American should be allowed to travel to Cuba as well. After all, we can travel to China, what's the flaming difference? Both are communist countries with a dodgy reputation on human rights. The only reason that U.S. citizens can't go to Cuba is because of the political power that the Cuban-American elite has. It's unconstitutional, IMO, government for the highest bidder.

And that guy, Humberto Fontova, criticizing Jimmy for shopping in Cuba is a hypocritical jerk, IMO. Cuban-Americans are allowed to send loads of cash to their relatives and also visit the island whenever they want. Isn't that "propping up" the evil dictatorship of the Castro brothers? Oh no, that's merely supporting their families. U.S. policy on Cuba is hypocrisy and makes no sense.

Hi FireOpal,

Excuse me but isn't that how the United States works as well?

"Government for the Highest Bidder" hey?

Show me where a member of the Social Elite doesn't Rule any Country in the World? and if you can find one then there's a really good chance that the Elite are Ruling by Proxy don't you think?

By the way, my Sauce (Heinz Tomato Sauce that is :P) says Jimmy was there to replenish his supply of Havana Cigars. ;)

Regards, Danny

PS, American Human Rights History isn't much better, I could show you that America is equal to Nazi Germany is denying Human Rights to People it deems not worthy of such rights, should I go on? :o

PPS, By the way FireOpal, I'm not having a go at you, in fact I think I'm supporting you, well that is what my intention WAS or should I say IS. :)

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paul vincent zecchino January 26th, 2011 at 1:53 AM

...and to blazes he can go, an old man fecklessly trying to relive his late 60s/early 70s glory daze, when he and his druggie pals waltzed over here, wrecked the careers of far more talented, decent, rock 'n roll musicians, and pimped off their peculiar brand of narco-toons. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm too young and too fair to be so cynical. Right. I agree. But look, plenty of us who were teens during that era did not live for the next welter of gee-tar gassoff from this motley bunch. Jimi Hendrix was yet among us when the Zepp's were making their big splash, and he didn't advocate being a drug-addled leftist. Hendrix had served with the 101st Airborne until a serious injury experienced while parachuting disqualified him from further military service. Hendrix and as well Bob Dylan were not political, despite the fact many listeners projected their own beliefs onto them. Hendrix advocated putting aside differences, appreciating music, and expressed love for his country, distinct from the UK/druggie bunch and their slick hollywood promoters who reveled in vomiting their PC bile all over us. Page & Plant think castro is such a swell guy? Great! Maybe they should stick around after their concerts and put in for assigned 'housing' in fidel's gulag. They'll love it when the water truck comes by with their daily ration. They'll really like it when fidel cuts off their electricity and packs them off to the canefields. They can take the express elevator to blazes, all I care. Their music was morose, depressing, and phony, just like the left. Ordinarily, I like morose, depressing music, but only when it's sincere.

http://babalublog.com/2011/01/stairway-to-hell/

^^^

I don't have the heart to inform the author Jimi Hendrix was actually discharged from the US Army because he informed his chain of command he was a homosexual. Yes, Hendrix did serve (stateside) with the 101st Airborne and sustain an ankle injury but he fabricated a claim he knew would result in an immediate discharge to further pursue musical ambitions.

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Absolutely. My family have spent time in Cuba and that doesn't equate to any support of the Government or political ideals - the same as living in the UK and visiting the US doesn't mean you support the Iraq war ;)

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So the guy visits a country and that equates to an endorsement of that country's government, etc.? Some people have too much time on their hands.

I note praise heaped on Hendrix for being apolitical. Certainly Led Zeppelin were equally apolitical. Jimmy Page is apolitical.

It's a shame modern life has become politicized to the point a gentleman can't travel as a private citizen without being publicly criticized for it. I wish the late George Carlin was still around to offer his thoughts about this.

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Don't think I'd go to Cuba as long as Castro is there. Considering the way he has treated his citizens over the years by torture and murder and the belief of communism. Not my way. It's a beautiful country, but until things change for the better, I won't be going. Think what you want, but this is reality for now. Hopefully, things will change there eventually. Probably will, but not until Castro is out or dies. And the latter would be the best thing that could happen to Cuba! Communism is a really bad thing! Castro is a very evil man and must be deposed of! The sooner, the better!

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paul vincent zecchino January 26th, 2011 at 1:53 AM

...and to blazes he can go, an old man fecklessly trying to relive his late 60s/early 70s glory daze, when he and his druggie pals waltzed over here, wrecked the careers of far more talented, decent, rock 'n roll musicians, and pimped off their peculiar brand of narco-toons.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm too young and too fair to be so cynical. Right. I agree. But look, plenty of us who were teens during that era did not live for the next welter of gee-tar gassoff from this motley bunch.

Jimi Hendrix was yet among us when the Zepp's were making their big splash, and he didn't advocate being a drug-addled leftist. Hendrix had served with the 101st Airborne until a serious injury experienced while parachuting disqualified him from further military service. Hendrix and as well Bob Dylan were not political, despite the fact many listeners projected their own beliefs onto them. Hendrix advocated putting aside differences, appreciating music, and expressed love for his country, distinct from the UK/druggie bunch and their slick hollywood promoters who reveled in vomiting their PC bile all over us.

Page & Plant think castro is such a swell guy? Great! Maybe they should stick around after their concerts and put in for assigned 'housing' in fidel's gulag. They'll love it when the water truck comes by with their daily ration.

They'll really like it when fidel cuts off their electricity and packs them off to the canefields.

They can take the express elevator to blazes, all I care. Their music was morose, depressing, and phony, just like the left. Ordinarily, I like morose, depressing music, but only when it's sincere.

http://babalublog.com/2011/01/stairway-to-hell/

What a steaming pile of unmitigated drivel!

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Thats Jimmy Carter Not Jimmy Page

When I saw this picture and caption I had to laugh out loud (and I am still laughing)! Of course that is Jimmy Carter and NOT Jimmy Page. Both may be older men with white hair and happen to share the same first name, however, I cannot fathom how someone (anyone) could mistake Jimmy Page for Jimmy Carter or Jimmy Carter for Jimmy Page. One is from Plains, Georgia, U.S.A. and the other is from Heston, Middlesex, U.K. One was the leader of the free world and the other was the leader of the Greatest Rock and Roll Band of All-Time. That being said both Jimmy's wielded extreme Power in the decade of the 1970's (late 70's for Mr. Carter). I would have to say that "Our" Jimmy Page's influence is still felt to this very day.

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Jimmy Page being greeted by fans while souvinier shopping in Havana

Page is wearing shrewd his business face. It looks like he might be negotiating a new tapestry design employing the native flora. Kudos to Ross for being present to visually document the trip.

Any word when Genesis will have the 'Page Tours Cuba' book released? I understand it's to be printed on hand picked tobacco leaves. (probably be off limits to us in the U.S.)

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Page is wearing shrewd his business face. It looks like he might be negotiating a new tapestry design employing the native flora. Kudos to Ross for being present to visually document the trip.

Any word when Genesis will have the 'Page Tours Cuba' book released? I understand it's to be printed on hand picked tobacco leaves. (probably be off limits to us in the U.S.)

lol

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Page is wearing shrewd his business face. It looks like he might be negotiating a new tapestry design employing the native flora. Kudos to Ross for being present to visually document the trip.

Throughout the visit Jimmy toyed with the local merchants, insisting they were interested in buying their wares "for a happy price". He'd wait to see the glint of greed in their eyes and then Ross would explain they'd pay an amount that made them happy, not the merchants. As you can imagine, in the end they only spent three days laughing their asses off.

Great shots indeed as shared in this thread.

B)

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There is a lot of bullshit here, I must say - and in the articles posted! :slapface:

Of course, Jimmy has made no statement about Cuba's rulers, the revolution, the Communist Party or anything. He just went there, as people do. There has been organized travel over the years by Cuban Friendship associations around the world, and that's different; most of the people who have gone there via those organizations have at least some political sympathy with the (Fidel and Raúl) Castro regime. Jimmy didn't. He's a musician, and speaks a universal language understood by millions of people whatever the cultural and political differences.

Perhaps I should state a few facts. First, Castro is not responsible in any way whatsoever for the death of Camilo Cienfuegos. Secondly, he did not encourage Che Guevara to leave Cuba and resume guerilla fighting elsewhere, and is not responsible for his death either. Blame Bolivian authorities: They murdered him, and they really didn't have to. Thirdly, for those concerned with human rights, there is no gulag in Cuba, and never has been - however there is a little something in Guantanamó, for which Castro is not responsible. Fourthly, while there have been real problems with political repression in Cuba, they have never been on anything like a similar scale as in the Soviet Union or the Eastern Bloc, as it used to be called. Fifth, we have no way of knowing what things would be like in Cuba today if the revolution hadn't occurred, so the only realistic thing we can do is keep in mind the situation as it was in the era of Fulgencio Batista, when Cuba was a huge Casino/whorehouse for rich U.S. visitors and businessmen. It was one of the poorest countries in Latin America, a big part of the population more or less permanently unemployed. For decades now, thanks to the revolution, the education and health care systems are the best you will find in Latin America - and the literacy rate was higher than in the U.S. last time I checked. Sixth point - the economic difficulties are in large part (not at all exclusively, but it's a complicated story) due to the long-standing U.S. embargo on the island, which Washington has time and time again made an effort to force other countries to participate in. There is no justification for this embargo and never has been. It's unjust and ridiculous.

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