LedZep342 Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 This is a neat pic I found, as you can see to the right of the photo is the 16mm camera, there is no operator, but the camera is facing page, so it might be running, also to the right is two men, one of which is holding some sort of an object (might be an 8mm camera): Quote
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) 41 years ago. Unless Pagey has it somewhere it's either lost or beyond repair like a lot of other film reels he would of have made. Edited April 30, 2011 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote
ledzepfilm Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Those are most definitley lighting stands. Zeppelin never had cameras put into rows. Quote
LedZep342 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Posted April 30, 2011 Those are most definitley lighting stands. Zeppelin never had cameras put into rows. Nooo, look too the right, here's a color pic of what the camera looks like with an operator: This pic is just black & white/without an operator, and I said "to the right of the photo is the 16mm camera" you obviously didn't read that. It's easier to see the pic in full, so you should probably right click and press view image. Quote
ledzepfilm Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) EDIT Sorry, I was looking above. That is a 16mm camera, sorry! Edited April 30, 2011 by ledzepfilm Quote
LedZep342 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Posted April 30, 2011 EDIT Sorry, I was looking above. That is a 16mm camera, sorry! Ok, well it's pretty neat! Quote
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 First one to get the footage wins. Quote
LedZep342 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Posted April 30, 2011 Haha, don't think that's going to happen anytime soon! Quote
tom kid Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 I don't think there's any dispute over whether or not cameras were present at Bath. The dispute is over whether or not the footage from said cameras still exists. On a side note, god I hope the Pontiac '77 footage still exists! Quote
duckman Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) EDIT Sorry, I was looking above. That is a 16mm camera, sorry! Nope, that's not a 16mm camera but ENG equipment (read; professional TV video camera). Heavy! 16mm camera's like ARRI's, Aatons or Eclairs were developed to give camermen more freedom to move. Nevertheless, these studio camera's were always used in multi cam sets, so there should be at least two or so positioned on stage (for medium shots and close ups) and another one near the mixing board (for long shots). So the theory that the footage was underexposed doesn't count anymore... the video signal is there or it has been damaged/detoriated (like the Julie Felix BBC footage) Edited May 1, 2011 by duckman Quote
SteveAJones Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 Nope, that's not a 16mm camera but ENG equipment (read; professional TV video camera). Heavy! 16mm camera's like ARRI's, Aatons or Eclairs were developed to give camermen more freedom to move. Nevertheless, these studio camera's were always used in multi cam sets, so there should be at least two or so positioned on stage (for medium shots and close ups) and another one near the mixing board (for long shots). So the theory that the footage was underexposed doesn't count anymore... the video signal is there or it has been damaged/detoriated (like the Julie Felix BBC footage) Peter Grant did not permit the band to be filmed; the camera crew was not allowed on stage during Led Zeppelin's performance. Quote
LedZep342 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Posted May 1, 2011 I don't think there's any dispute over whether or not cameras were present at Bath. The dispute is over whether or not the footage from said cameras still exists. On a side note, god I hope the Pontiac '77 footage still exists! Yea, well I'm sure there is, whether it be 16mm or 8mm footage, and I would like to see the Pontiac footage too, if it still exists! Quote
LedZep342 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Posted May 1, 2011 Nope, that's not a 16mm camera but ENG equipment (read; professional TV video camera). Heavy! 16mm camera's like ARRI's, Aatons or Eclairs were developed to give camermen more freedom to move. Nevertheless, these studio camera's were always used in multi cam sets, so there should be at least two or so positioned on stage (for medium shots and close ups) and another one near the mixing board (for long shots). So the theory that the footage was underexposed doesn't count anymore... the video signal is there or it has been damaged/detoriated (like the Julie Felix BBC footage) I thought those were just lights, for lighting up the stage for the night, here's a color pic of what they look like on the other side: Quote
ledzepfilm Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) My account: I do agree with tomkid, That is too big for a 16mm camera. According to "ukrockconcerts", Led Zeppelin: One active camera to film the crowd. Footage definitely exists of their act. So if this is right, the 16mm film/TV cameras (if used) was probably shot around the stage, if it ever was filmed in the first place. The only known footage from Bath is the 22 second 8mm film, which will probably never enter the bootleg trade. Ya never know, folks! And the Pontiac footage would of been a nice surprise for yesterday, haha Edited May 1, 2011 by ledzepfilm Quote
ledzepfilm Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 And LedZep342, are you refering to the gold things on the bottom of the stage, or the stuff ontop of JPJ's organ? Quote
LedZep342 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Posted May 1, 2011 And LedZep342, are you refering to the gold things on the bottom of the stage, or the stuff ontop of JPJ's organ? I'm referring to the gold things on the bottom of the stage. Quote
ledzepfilm Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 I'm confused what the gold things are? (Might seem stupid but those are NOT cameras) Quote
LedZep342 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Posted May 1, 2011 My account: I do agree with tomkid, That is too big for a 16mm camera. According to "ukrockconcerts", Led Zeppelin: One active camera to film the crowd. Footage definitely exists of their act. So if this is right, the 16mm film/TV cameras (if used) was probably shot around the stage, if it ever was filmed in the first place. The only known footage from Bath is the 22 second 8mm film, which will probably never enter the bootleg trade. Ya never know, folks! And the Pontiac footage would of been a nice surprise for yesterday, haha Well, that camera to the right stayed to the left of the stage, cause in every other photo of every other act I saw that camera to the left of the stage, and in all the other pics of Zep at Bath that I've seen the camera wasn't their, so I have a feeling they filmed that number. And dude, that 22 seconds of 8mm film is really not worth anything, it's just to short, and what do you mean the Pontiac footage would've been a nice surprise for yesterday? Quote
LedZep342 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Posted May 1, 2011 I'm confused what the gold things are? (Might seem stupid but those are NOT cameras) No, those are NOT cameras, they are lights for lighting up the acts that would go on at night. Quote
ledzepfilm Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 It was probably innactive. Either that the cameras were around the stage, or it was never film. And every Zep clip is useful! You used to really want it. And yesterday was 4/30, and the gig was 4/30/1977. Quote
LedZep342 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Posted May 1, 2011 It was probably innactive. Either that the cameras were around the stage, or it was never film. And every Zep clip is useful! You used to really want it. And yesterday was 4/30, and the gig was 4/30/1977. Yea, it probably was inactive, there probably would've been an operator at the camera, but you never know. And yea, I guess you're right every Zep clip is useful, and I did really want it, but really, I mean it's only 22 secs. Oh, and that's neat, I just realized I got onto the LZ forum on the 27th of February, the Sydney gig. Quote
Administrators sam_webmaster Posted May 1, 2011 Administrators Posted May 1, 2011 Quote from Peter Grant: "Some People were trying to videotape the Bath Festival and they'd already been told beforehand they couldn't, so I had no qualms about throwing a bucket of water on to the tape machine which blew the whole lot up. Whoosh! It made a horrible smell and then it melted." Quote
ledzepfilm Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 So according to this info.... Bath was filmed by multiple members of the audience, and maybe a film crew filmed them around the stage, but no films (if any more) have surfaced. Quote
duckman Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 No, those are NOT cameras, they are lights for lighting up the acts that would go on at night. Get back to school, blokes... this discussion makes me It is a ENG camera.... Quote
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