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Can you deny that the West exported its WORST forms of CORRUPTION to the above-mentioned states??!

Easily so:

The early dynastic period of Egypt dates to the 31st century B.C - more than 5,000 years ago.

The North American colonies didn't declare their independence from Great Britain until Jul 4, 1776 - just shy of 235 years ago.

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Easily so:

The early dynastic period of Egypt dates to the 31st century B.C - more than 5,000 years ago.

The North American colonies didn't declare their independence from Great Britain until Jul 4, 1776 - just shy of 235 years ago.

THAT is NO reply at all....pls decipher what you're saying, but pls be COHERENT:):):)

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I think history has shown that the world's most wanted TERRORIST has long been dead.....ADOLF HITLER, a right-wing fanatic!!!:)

Hitler was Chancellor of Germany and as such recognized by the world community as a legitamate head of state - not a terrorist.

As a National socialist he incorporated policies, tactics and philosophic tenets from both the left and right wing ideologies. While it's arguably true Nazism is a far-right form of politics, as executed by The Nazi Party it more closely resembled fascism.

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Hitler was Chancellor of Germany and as such recognized by the world community as a legitamate head of state - not a terrorist.

As a National socialist he incorporated policies, tactics and philosophic tenets from both the left and right wing ideologies. While it's arguably true Nazism is a far-right form of politics, as executed by The Nazi Party it more closely resembled fascism.

That's true, Hitler was an advocate of what was called National Socialism in Nazi Germany. Although the term itself is somewhat of a contridiction since Marx never believed that socialism could thrive in nation states.

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THAT is NO reply at all....pls decipher what you're saying, but pls be COHERENT:):):)

You said Can you deny that the West exported its WORST forms of CORRUPTION to the above-mentioned states??!

Sure, I'll waste more time attempting to present elementary-level logic in a way you can understand:

Egypt's history goes back more than 5,000 years, while the United States is just shy of 235 years. It's absurd for you to suggest as you did that the West (i.e. USA) introduced corruption into a region that has been around more than 20 times longer.

If Iraq, for example, was as uncorrupted as you seem to think it was there would have been little need to develop the Code of Hammurabi circa 1700 B.C.

I don't know why I bother with these exchanges. It's like playing chess with a toddler.

Checkmate.

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You said Can you deny that the West exported its WORST forms of CORRUPTION to the above-mentioned states??!

Sure, I'll waste more time attempting to present elementary-level logic in a way you can understand:

Egypt's history goes back more than 5,000 years, while the United States is just shy of 235 years. It's absurd for you to suggest as you did that the West (i.e. USA) introduced corruption into a region that has been around more than 20 times longer.

If Iraq, for example, was as uncorrupted as you seem to think it was there would have been little need to develop the Code of Hammurabi circa 1700 B.C.

I don't know why I bother with these exchanges. It's like playing chess with a toddler.

Checkmate.

Hahahahhahahaha, first of all we are not playing chess,,,,,,,a far more respectable game than what you are trying to depict as......2nd, I would NEVER play chess, a game I know and play very well as a matter of fact:), with you because smaller toddlers play it better:):)

3rd, you are quoting historical aspects that have not answered my question AT A LL and that way of replying resembles the way politicians try to put things over to the people when they do not know what to say anymore. :):).

4th, EYE do not know why I bother debating with posters who play ploitics the sleazy way:):)

TOUCHE'!!!!:):)

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Hitler was Chancellor of Germany and as such recognized by the world community as a legitamate head of state - not a terrorist.

As a National socialist he incorporated policies, tactics and philosophic tenets from both the left and right wing ideologies. While it's arguably true Nazism is a far-right form of politics, as executed by The Nazi Party it more closely resembled fascism.

Hah........go say that to the over 6000000 Jews BRUTALLY SLAIN in the last century and to the Jewish community......RIGHT-WING, be it moderate or extreme, IS AND REMAINS A DIRTY, REVOLTING WORD :):):)

CHECKMATE :):)

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THAT is NO reply at all....pls decipher what you're saying, but pls be COHERENT:):):)

Seriously, how do you and your girlfriend communicate? With flash cards?

You asking someone else to be coherent is absurd because coherency is about as rare in your posts

as virgins at a Girls Gone Wild party at Lake Havasu.

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Seriously, how do you and your girlfriend communicate? With flash cards?

You asking someone else to be coherent is absurd because coherency is about as rare in your posts

as virgins at a Girls Gone Wild party at Lake Havasu.

Hahahahahahhaha, you would like to know how me and Mony communicate, wouldn't you??!:):)....why..... don't you communicate with your other half??!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :huh:

When "other" posters here are coherent, they usually call people dirty words or the like.......funny way of being coherent:):):)!!!

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YES......THAT is exactly what I said.......WESTERN STYLE CORRUPTION!!!! Can you deny that the West exported its WORST forms of CORRUPTION to the above-mentioned states??! Oh sure....those people WILL have their deserved freedom, but only when they get rid of their monarchic rulers will they actually OBTAIN freedom!!! The PEOPLE did it in Egypt, in Tunisia, they are doing it in Lybia.....AND they will do it in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, etc. as well.....THE PEOPLE ALWAYS WIN....it's undeniable, it's under the eyes of the whole world.....let's wake up to it :):):):)

Never mind the three examples I gave to you,which you haven't bothered mentioning,I would love you to explain how the west has/is exporting its own type of corruption to the states you've mentioned.I'm of the opinion that the west has,in the main,exported civilisation to these countries,you will probably not agree and your free to do so,but explain to me about,as you see it,the corrupting influence of the west on these states and their people.Let's not go on about RIGHT WING again either as western governments have been of all sorts of politcal persuasions over the last,say,seventy or eighty years.

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Never mind the three examples I gave to you,which you haven't bothered mentioning,I would love you to explain how the west has/is exporting its own type of corruption to the states you've mentioned.I'm of the opinion that the west has,in the main,exported civilisation to these countries,you will probably not agree and your free to do so,but explain to me about,as you see it,the corrupting influence of the west on these states and their people.Let's not go on about RIGHT WING again either as western governments have been of all sorts of politcal persuasions over the last,say,seventy or eighty years.

Well, finally some debating:):):)......it is UNdeniable that the likes of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and Kuwait have very close $$$ ties with the Western world.....and pls be careful, I said WESTERN WORLD, not only the U.S.A.:):):). Mubarak had ties with the Western world and the people got sick and tired of it all.....they have just recently discovered both Mubarak's and Gheddafi's $$$ stashed away in Swiss banks, NOT Islamic banks :):). Of course the West is civilized.....I myself am wholly part of it and live in it and work in it. BUT I am NO YESMAN...never haVE been and NEVER will be:):):). EYE know when I'm being fooled and the worst leg-pulling is the one enacted by one's own country!:):)

Of course I will keep on throwing mud on RIGH-WING ideals.......RIGHT-WING IS A DIRTY WORD AND WILL REMAIN THAT WAY FOREVER:):)

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Decision was made by the President that the pics of the dead body won't be shown.

Some think that Hitler didn't kill himself, the Holocaust didn't happen, and man has never landed on the moon. I'm afraid that if some evidence isn't shown questions will be raised.

IMO of course.

In this day and age I'm sure some pics will surface at some point.

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Well, finally some debating:):):)......it is UNdeniable that the likes of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and Kuwait have very close $$$ ties with the Western world.....and pls be careful, I said WESTERN WORLD, not only the U.S.A.:):):). Mubarak had ties with the Western world and the people got sick and tired of it all.....they have just recently discovered both Mubarak's and Gheddafi's $$$ stashed away in Swiss banks, NOT Islamic banks :):). Of course the West is civilized.....I myself am wholly part of it and live in it and work in it. BUT I am NO YESMAN...never haVE been and NEVER will be:):):). EYE know when I'm being fooled and the worst leg-pulling is the one enacted by one's own country!:):)

Of course I will keep on throwing mud on RIGH-WING ideals.......RIGHT-WING IS A DIRTY WORD AND WILL REMAIN THAT WAY FOREVER:):)

Spidersandsnakes,I could see you were online so I thought you would reply quickly.Thanks for that,but you have not aswered my point about your original post.You've mentioned the states above having "ties to the western world".Of course they have,every country in the world is now interconnected to many others in a million ways.That fact in itself proves nothing.As for Mubarak and his Swiss bank occounts,well are you surprised?Islamic banks do not allow the acrueing of interest,so Mubarak,like so many other despots with their eyes on their wallets decides to shop somewhere else.Who is world renowned for both healthy interest payments and secrecy?The land of the yodel.You've mentioned the Egyptian people getting "..sick and tired of it all" regarding Mubarak's ties to the west,but that did not start the recent uprising in that country.What kicked it off was the suicide of a young student,if I remember correctly,who killed himself in despair at the lack of economic opportunities in his country.It has spread to other country's from that fact.In essence they want what we in Britain,America,europe,Australia,Canada and Japan,etc all already have and take for granted.They want freedom and they want a future decided by themselves.Anyway,that you and I know and would probably agree on,but I would still like you to explain about the corruption you feel that the west has dumped on the middle east and how it has effected them.I cannot see it myself,but I'll read your argument for.By the way,RIGHT-WING is two words ;) ,and have you bought that Patti Smith photo book yet ?Good luck.

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Footage of Saddam being hung was "leaked", so to will there be photos of OBL.

Briefly on either Saturday or Sunday just passed,a neck up photo was shown on either the main BBC newspage or The Telegraph (a British newspaper) newspage showing what perported to be a photo of the dead bin Laden.The body was obviously showing trauma to the left eye,in truth it looked more like a black eye with subsequent swelling than anything else.It was not gory at all and,having seen the photo myself,I would say that it was definately the man they were after.

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