spidersandsnakes Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) Many of "today's" artists have already toppled off their "thrones" while others like Chuck Berry for example have passed the test of time umpteen times over....I don't think the artists of "today" will even dream of coming close to true UNwimpy acts as LZ or Chuck :) Edited June 19, 2011 by spidersandsnakes Quote
Walter Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 Time will tell, not your opinion. You can take your piss fight back to where it started, don't ruin ANOTHER thread please. Quote
spidersandsnakes Posted June 19, 2011 Posted June 19, 2011 Time will tell, not your opinion. You can take your piss fight back to where it started, don't ruin ANOTHER thread please. YOU hav been reported again:): Quote
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted June 23, 2011 Author Posted June 23, 2011 ^^ What was that about? Quote
Walter Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 ^No need to get into THAT again, needless to say it was a rekindled situation that didn't need to be carried into here. The powers that be are aware of everything. All is calm.... As has been said by others, Zep was way too talented not to reach the heights they did. WLL was definitely a song that was perfect for the time period it came out though. Quote
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted June 23, 2011 Author Posted June 23, 2011 Sorry and i just see it as a catalyst for their success in a way Quote
spidersandsnakes Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Sorry and i just see it as a catalyst for their success in a way I totally agree :) :D Quote
Justsomeguy Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Hello LedZep fans, Hate to butt in, just found the topic, and found it interesting. v( (anywho) It's really hard to say. There would still be a good sized group that would be hardcore Ledzeppelin fans. The only thing that would set the listening group apart from the rest of the people; is understanding, of the emotion behind the music. They wouldn't have been THAT famous, as they were; but, they would have still changed quite a few people. I guess what I'm trying to say is: The music is still effecting people today. I think it is more than just a Whole Lotta Love that get's people thinkin. It's one hell of a motivator though. I'll give yah that. Maybe I'm just playin devil's advocate, it really just depends on perspective. On what you're taking into account and what you're not taking into account. -DroCain Quote
lzzoso Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) YOU hav been reported again:): "Whole Lotta Love" did not make Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin made "Whole Lotta Love" and, I would have to say that it did help tremendously with the sales of Led Zeppelin II (then and now). Even though Led Zeppelin was still a very young and (semi) un-tested band at the time of LZII, I think that Led Zeppelin would still have gone on to dominate the whole Music business as they did throughout the entire decade of the 1970's. With or without "Whole Lotta Love". I do think that the World is a better place with a great song and anthem as "Whole Lotta Love". As far as I can think, "Whole Lotta Love" was the first song credited to "Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham". Later revised to "Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham/Dixon". By the way, snakesandspiders, how come you seem to get so defensive and always seem to resort to reporting people because of any differences that someone has with you? What do you report? That someone has a different opinion than you do. That your feelings may have been hurt? I have had many differences with some people on this forum (you included), and have been called all kinds of bad names and whatnot, however, I would never go so low as to "report" these to any kind of authority. IF I CAN DISH IT OUT, I CAN DEFINATELY TAKE IT. GOOD OR BAD. I do not feel the need to report or ignore others just because they may not agree with me. Edited June 25, 2011 by lzzoso Quote
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted June 26, 2011 Author Posted June 26, 2011 Hmm I agree about the sales of LZ II, without WLL would Led still have knocked off the Beatles on the melody maker chart? Quote
spidersandsnakes Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) "Whole Lotta Love" did not make Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin made "Whole Lotta Love" and, I would have to say that it did help tremendously with the sales of Led Zeppelin II (then and now). Even though Led Zeppelin was still a very young and (semi) un-tested band at the time of LZII, I think that Led Zeppelin would still have gone on to dominate the whole Music business as they did throughout the entire decade of the 1970's. With or without "Whole Lotta Love". I do think that the World is a better place with a great song and anthem as "Whole Lotta Love". As far as I can think, "Whole Lotta Love" was the first song credited to "Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham". Later revised to "Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham/Dixon". By the way, snakesandspiders, how come you seem to get so defensive and always seem to resort to reporting people because of any differences that someone has with you? What do you report? That someone has a different opinion than you do. That your feelings may have been hurt? I have had many differences with some people on this forum (you included), and have been called all kinds of bad names and whatnot, however, I would never go so low as to "report" these to any kind of authority. IF I CAN DISH IT OUT, I CAN DEFINATELY TAKE IT. GOOD OR BAD. I do not feel the need to report or ignore others just because they may not agree with me. I do not like to talk about these things publically, but since you brought the matter up, I'll reply. Some people here have criticized me for my ideas and NORMAL debating and even with HARSH words.....I have always lived by the motto "live and let live", but when I see that the negative critics continue to use certain kind of language, then I start to report things...so that is what I report.....silly BIASED language and not frivolous things. I can take anyone's idea and ponder it UNlike many other posters here...remember, I'M NO YESMAN, be sure about that :)!!!! Edited June 26, 2011 by spidersandsnakes Quote
spidersandsnakes Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 I would never go so low as to "report" these to any kind of authority. "Do not do anything to others that you would not like others do to you!:) Quote
spidersandsnakes Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) I would like to live long enuff (but surely I won't:)) to witness LZ''s influence on future artists. I really DO NOT think that such acts of pop and rock today will ever be remembered as influential in the future.....big challenge, eh???!!:) Edited June 26, 2011 by spidersandsnakes Quote
Texas Melanie Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 To the original question: I do believe that Zeppelin would have been just as successful without WLL. It helped their album sales but they were gaining widespread notice by touring at such a frenetic pace which put them in front of lots of people which in turn, helped introduce the fans to their albums. Touring was their key to their success. Quote
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted June 28, 2011 Author Posted June 28, 2011 To the original question: I do believe that Zeppelin would have been just as successful without WLL. It helped their album sales but they were gaining widespread notice by touring at such a frenetic pace which put them in front of lots of people which in turn, helped introduce the fans to their albums. Touring was their key to their success. This seems like the general main conclusion then! Quote
spidersandsnakes Posted June 28, 2011 Posted June 28, 2011 Artists today worry only if their digital sales are high, leaving behind contact with their fans....THAT is the key to their NON success and will throw them into total oblivion in a couple of years :)!!!! VIVA LED ZEPPELIN :)!!!! Quote
dazedcat Posted July 14, 2011 Posted July 14, 2011 I think Zeppelin touring the way they did clearly did have a big influence on their success early, but a lot of bands did the same thing with varying degress of success. I'm also not sure where the idea that Zeppelin was never a "singles" band came from either. They didn't record a tune with the top 40 in mind but over their recording career they did have five single releases that made the American Top 20. Fans went to the shows and bought the LP's, but casual record buyers had to find out about the band through their singles that were played on the radio a lot back in the day. Quote
ledzepfilm Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 And equipment. Don't forget the equipment they used. Quote
Jahfin Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 And equipment. Don't forget the equipment they used. I'm guessing you're using "equipment" as a euphemism. Nice. Quote
Jahfin Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I wasn't trying to be mean at all.... Nor was I implying that you were... Quote
ledzepfilm Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 I was figuring you were thinking I was being a bit rude. I thought the "Nice." statement was starcastic. Sorry for any inconvience. Quote
Trickzta Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 I believe the first album didn't really set Led Zeppelin on the map like the second did and the play of Whole Lotta Love got the second album to be as popular because think of it like this LZ II would never have reached the charts like it did without it. Therefore not making Led Zeppelin have so a big name after 1969 so my question is do you think this is the song that actually got Led Zeppelin to the heights they reached? hell yeah! does dolly parton sleep on her back? Quote
Trickzta Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 hell yeah! does dolly parton sleep on her back? Quote
rokenbk97 Posted July 20, 2011 Posted July 20, 2011 "Whole Lotta Love" was definitely the first single that catapulted them into the stratosphere. Did "Dazed and Confused" ever crack the American Top 20? Quote
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