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SHOULD WE STILL BUY NEWSPAPERS

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One of the best topics I have seen in a while. i know someone that makes a living delivering papers and there is still a large population that gets it delivered to their door daily. Not myself. I am an internet junkie. I think the older generation will continue to buy them. Old habits die hard. But eventually it will become far less common and I wonder if major newspapers will survive? Of course prices of internet access could keep them going too. Far cheaper to buy a paper than internet. Unless you are stealing it like many are. I have a rounter I use for my laptop and never use the desktop any more. I could probably get a feed off someone but I chose to just buy it. I do not want to depend on someone else having it next door to me. Now there is equipment I have heard to block access? I never tried to pick up another network on my street. So I dont even know. But the newspapers and magazines have to have taken a beating with the internet. After all, I can get the local news same as in todays paper online. The only advantage is the coupons. Cant get them all online. So that is another reason many will buy at least the Sunday paper.

Must edit. Big Dan, newspapers will never stop for the reasons you state. There is never any strength in large numbers amoung consumbers. If the papers ever stop, it will be because people stop buying them all together. And for that reason alone in my opiinion. Tell me if I am wrong?

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Must edit. Big Dan, newspapers will never stop for the reasons you state. There is never any strength in large numbers amoung consumbers. If the papers ever stop, it will be because people stop buying them all together. And for that reason alone in my opiinion. Tell me if I am wrong?

You're not wrong Silver, far from it, but help me out here please, what reasons did i state about newspapers never stopping, i'm a bit confused due to lack of tea, cheers.

Kind Regards, Danny

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You're not wrong Silver, far from it, but help me out here please, what reasons did i state about newspapers never stopping, i'm a bit confused due to lack of tea, cheers.

Kind Regards, Danny

Sometimes your posts are long and I am guilty of skim reading. I just dont have the time for every long post. My fualt. You probably never said newspapers would stop, but someday they in fact may if the younger generation, who are engulfed in their electronic device worlds stop to buy them entirely. A very real possibility. Though I doubtt we will live to see it.

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Sometimes your posts are long and I am guilty of skim reading. I just dont have the time for every long post. My fualt. You probably never said newspapers would stop, but someday they in fact may if the younger generation, who are engulfed in their electronic device worlds stop to buy them entirely. A very real possibility. Though I doubtt we will live to see it.

Sorry for the long posts Silver, but i do have a lot to say sometimes. ;)

I have never seen Star Trek people read newspapers, they all seem to use ipads so youre probably right about newspapers going obsolete some day, but dont forget that tramps and poor people need newspaper on a daily basis. :yesnod:

Kind Regards, Danny

PS, Pyromaniacs also need newspapers for fuses. :o

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Hi All,

What with the recent news, Norway and Poor Amy Winehouse, everybody in England seems to have moved on and this is now old news, the price we pay for being shocked i suppose.

I found this, news that the Lockerbie Bomber was at a pro Gaddafi Rally, i thought that fcuker was sent home to die two years ago, seems that Libyan Healthcare is somewhat better than the Scottish NHS, for it seems according to Scottish Doctors he would be dead in a matter of weeks, due more to poor diet rather than cancer i would have thought. :o;):lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14302410

Regards, Danny

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Another reason to stop buying newspapers.

Saudi prince wins libel damages over Independent story

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The Independent said the decision to refer to the order was made in 'good faith'

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Saudi Arabia's interior minister has accepted undisclosed damages over an article in The Independent newspaper accusing him of ordering police to shoot and kill unarmed protesters.

The newspaper accepted the "order" it reported was in fact a fake.

Its publishers, Independent Print Ltd, also offered "sincere apologies" to Prince Nayef Bin Abdul-Aziz al-Saud at London's High Court.

Prince Nayef has said he will give the "substantial" damages to charity.

The article was written by the Independent's Middle East correspondent Robert Fisk, who also offered his apologies, and published on 15 April.

Rupert Earle, appearing for the prince, told Mrs Justice Nicola Davies the untruthful allegations arose after Saudi Shia activists sought to organise a demonstration on 11 March.

It was described as the "Hunayn Revolution" after a battle fought by the Prophet Muhammed in 630 AD.

Several websites featured an order allegedly issued by Prince Nayef, who is second in line to the Saudi throne, and addressed to police chiefs before the demonstration.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14390301

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And what about magazines? You dont even need to buy Playboy with all the internet Porn out there. Ha. I myself have never seen it. And I have never told a lie either. ha.

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Playboy was a complete waste of money, you only ever used to get maybe three birds in there, and tons of politics and sport that nobody ever read. Our tug mags were much better, maybe 8-10 chicks each issue. And the stories were all about sex too. I will never forget the time I was in Paris the year I left school, Lesley Anne Down was in a Men Only I think, and of course I just had to buy it, I didnt want to wait till I got home in case the next issue had replaced it by then. So i picked it up and went to pay for it and asked for a bag to put it in. The french cashier chick, who was pretty hot for a frog, looked at me and said 'Pas de sac pour ca, monsieur'. How embarressing.

Translation please? Anyway, Playboy used to have the ratings on rock n roll for each instrument. Not that I considered it to be that accurate, it always had Elton John number one on keyboards, ahead of Keith Emerson somehow. Paul McCartney number one on Bass, somehow ahead of Entwistle and JPJ even though the two latter were right there always in top five. For woodwinds, Edgar Winter always got alot of respect. It was kind of fun to see the ratings. I do believe Page and Clapton were always right near the top. Remember that? Playboy was a good magazine regardless of what you say. And so was Penthouse. Now carry on. Back to your porn surfing.:lol:

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Heather Mills accuses the Mirror of phone hacking. :o

http://news.sky.com/...rticle/16043342

Heather Mills has claimed that a top Mirror Group journalist admitted hacking her phone while she was in a relationship with Sir Paul McCartney, blowing open the scandal that until now has involved just News of the World.

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Sir Paul McCartney and Heather Mills arrive at a party in New York in 2001

In 2001 the former Beatles songwriter left a message for his then-girlfriend on her mobile, and later that day the journalist allegedly called up Miss Mills and quoted from it.

The 43-year-old claimed on BBC2's Newsnight that when she asked how the unnamed journalist knew what the message said they admitted her voice mailbox had been hacked.

Miss Mills, who married Sir Paul in 2002 and divorced him six years later, said the journalist "started quoting verbatim the messages from my machine".

She told Newsnight that she challenged the journalist and said: "You've obviously hacked my phone and if you do anything with this story ... I'll go to the police."

There was absolutely no honest way that Piers Morgan could have obtained that tape that he has so proudly bragged about unless they had gone into my voice messages.

Heather Mills on Newsnight She said they responded: "OK, OK, yeah we did hear it on your voice messages, I won't run it."

A spokesman for the programme insisted that the journalist in question was not Piers Morgan, editor of the Daily Mirror at the time.

The spokesman, however, did say that the message in question appeared to be the same as one which Mr Morgan later admitted to hearing.

Five years ago, in his Daily Mail column, Mr Morgan referred to listening to a recorded voice mail which Sir Paul had left for Miss Mills.

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Piers Morgan wrote that he had listen to a message from Sir Paul

He wrote: "At one stage I was played a tape of a message Paul had left for Heather on her mobile phone".

"It was heartbreaking," Mr Morgan continued. "The couple had clearly had a tiff, Heather had fled to India, and Paul was pleading with her to come back. He sounded lonely, miserable and desperate, and even sang We Can Work It Out into the answer phone."

If Miss Mills' claim is proved, the call Mr Morgan listened to had been hacked, and a fellow Mirror Group Newspapers journalist had tried to use it, the spokesman said.

Ms Mills said: "There was absolutely no honest way that Piers Morgan could have obtained that tape that he has so proudly bragged about unless they had gone into my voice messages."

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Miss Mills is seen leaving divorce court in 2008

A Trinity Mirror spokesman said on Wednesday evening: "Our position is clear. All our journalists work within the criminal law and the PCC code of conduct."

In a statement issued through CNN, Mr Morgan said: "Heather Mills has made unsubstantiated claims about a conversation she may or may not have had with a

senior executive from a Trinity Mirror newspaper in 2001.

"The BBC has confirmed to me that this executive was not employed by the Daily Mirror. I have no knowledge of any conversation any executive from other newspapers at Trinity Mirror may or may not have had with Heather Mills.

"What I can say and have knowledge of is that Sir Paul McCartney asserted that Heather Mills illegally intercepted his telephones, and leaked confidential material to the media. This is well documented, and was stated in their divorce case.

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Rio Ferdinand and Ulrika Jonsson claim that their phones were hacked

"To reiterate, I have never hacked a phone, told anyone to hack a phone, nor to my knowledge published any story obtained from the hacking of a phone."

In addition England footballer Rio Ferdinand and TV presenter Ulrika Jonsson also believe they were hacked by the Mirror Group, according to Newsnight.

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Heather Mills accuses the Mirror of phone hacking. :o

http://news.sky.com/...rticle/16043342

Heather Mills has claimed that a top Mirror Group journalist admitted hacking her phone while she was in a relationship with Sir Paul McCartney, blowing open the scandal that until now has involved just News of the World.

16043352.jpg

Sir Paul McCartney and Heather Mills arrive at a party in New York in 2001

In 2001 the former Beatles songwriter left a message for his then-girlfriend on her mobile, and later that day the journalist allegedly called up Miss Mills and quoted from it.

The 43-year-old claimed on BBC2's Newsnight that when she asked how the unnamed journalist knew what the message said they admitted her voice mailbox had been hacked.

Miss Mills, who married Sir Paul in 2002 and divorced him six years later, said the journalist "started quoting verbatim the messages from my machine".

She told Newsnight that she challenged the journalist and said: "You've obviously hacked my phone and if you do anything with this story ... I'll go to the police."

There was absolutely no honest way that Piers Morgan could have obtained that tape that he has so proudly bragged about unless they had gone into my voice messages.

Heather Mills on Newsnight She said they responded: "OK, OK, yeah we did hear it on your voice messages, I won't run it."

A spokesman for the programme insisted that the journalist in question was not Piers Morgan, editor of the Daily Mirror at the time.

The spokesman, however, did say that the message in question appeared to be the same as one which Mr Morgan later admitted to hearing.

Five years ago, in his Daily Mail column, Mr Morgan referred to listening to a recorded voice mail which Sir Paul had left for Miss Mills.

16039099.jpg

Piers Morgan wrote that he had listen to a message from Sir Paul

He wrote: "At one stage I was played a tape of a message Paul had left for Heather on her mobile phone".

"It was heartbreaking," Mr Morgan continued. "The couple had clearly had a tiff, Heather had fled to India, and Paul was pleading with her to come back. He sounded lonely, miserable and desperate, and even sang We Can Work It Out into the answer phone."

If Miss Mills' claim is proved, the call Mr Morgan listened to had been hacked, and a fellow Mirror Group Newspapers journalist had tried to use it, the spokesman said.

Ms Mills said: "There was absolutely no honest way that Piers Morgan could have obtained that tape that he has so proudly bragged about unless they had gone into my voice messages."

16043351.jpg

Miss Mills is seen leaving divorce court in 2008

A Trinity Mirror spokesman said on Wednesday evening: "Our position is clear. All our journalists work within the criminal law and the PCC code of conduct."

In a statement issued through CNN, Mr Morgan said: "Heather Mills has made unsubstantiated claims about a conversation she may or may not have had with a

senior executive from a Trinity Mirror newspaper in 2001.

"The BBC has confirmed to me that this executive was not employed by the Daily Mirror. I have no knowledge of any conversation any executive from other newspapers at Trinity Mirror may or may not have had with Heather Mills.

"What I can say and have knowledge of is that Sir Paul McCartney asserted that Heather Mills illegally intercepted his telephones, and leaked confidential material to the media. This is well documented, and was stated in their divorce case.

16043395.jpg

Rio Ferdinand and Ulrika Jonsson claim that their phones were hacked

"To reiterate, I have never hacked a phone, told anyone to hack a phone, nor to my knowledge published any story obtained from the hacking of a phone."

In addition England footballer Rio Ferdinand and TV presenter Ulrika Jonsson also believe they were hacked by the Mirror Group, according to Newsnight.

It sickens me how that gold digging bitch played Paul like a fucking grand piano. Kind of like my ex strife did with me. She got a few more bucks than my ex but still it boils down to the fact the one person on earth that you are supposed to trust, ultimatley betrays you to such extremes. And the stinking laws back these type of vultures and bloodsuckers up. When will the damn laws be looked at? There is no justice in this corrupt court system. I despise judges and lawyers both.

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It sickens me how that gold digging bitch played Paul like a fucking grand piano. Kind of like my ex strife did with me. She got a few more bucks than my ex but still it boils down to the fact the one person on earth that you are supposed to trust, ultimatley betrays you to such extremes. And the stinking laws back these type of vultures and bloodsuckers up. When will the damn laws be looked at? There is no justice in this corrupt court system. I despise judges and lawyers both.

Hi Silver,

Its about time the rich stopped marrying, you would have thought they were more intelligent than that wouldn't you?

My own Misses is the most beautiful person i have ever known both inside as well as outside and would never do me wrong, so i think i/she picked right. ;)

Kind Regards, Danny

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Danny - its been a long time I know , too long !

Anyway, to answer your original question, we must not judge the free press by the actions of these out-of-control so and so's

Sooner or later this sleazy bunch will be brought under control, and they won't be as untouchable as they think they are. And I believe the tide is turning now.

Sincerely hope so.

Peace,

TZW

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I have no time for Heather Mills, but to read that story and then react to HER rather than the story that is revealed speaks volumes.

I quite like Piers Morgan, but why shouldn't he be brought up to answer how he heard a message from Macca, and even wrote about it?

Stinks.

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I have no time for Heather Mills, but to read that story and then react to HER rather than the story that is revealed speaks volumes.

I quite like Piers Morgan, but why shouldn't he be brought up to answer how he heard a message from Macca, and even wrote about it?

Stinks.

At some point, I think he'll have too. It may cost him his chat show on CNN

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Danny - its been a long time I know , too long !

Anyway, to answer your original question, we must not judge the free press by the actions of these out-of-control so and so's

Sooner or later this sleazy bunch will be brought under control, and they won't be as untouchable as they think they are. And I believe the tide is turning now.

Sincerely hope so.

Peace,

TZW

Hi Zeppy, glad you're back on.

Newspapers are like toilet rolls, when you need to wipe your arse they are invaluable, but as for news? i would rather use other mediums, i have survived buying newspapers for 30 years (More actually) and i cannot see me buying one sometime soon, not sorry either.

Kind Regards, Danny

PS, Come on the Wolves. :cheer::cheer::cheer:

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I have no time for Heather Mills, but to read that story and then react to HER rather than the story that is revealed speaks volumes.

I quite like Piers Morgan, but why shouldn't he be brought up to answer how he heard a message from Macca, and even wrote about it?

Stinks.

Hi Knebby,

You might like Mr Morgan, but the day he gets his cumuppence i'll toast the Judge, Morgan is lower than pond life as far as i'm concerned, it will all come out in the end, not only him but all Editors can be held accountable as to why so many of us English Citizens have become apathertic about News in this Great Country of ours, i gave up hope many years ago, that they would change that is, and the recent news from Tottenham makes me feel even more convinced that i would be better off leaving this country for more civilised climes. :o

Kind Regards, Danny

PS, AMERICA? i didnt mean you. ;)

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Hi all,

Can any of friends please explain what is going on in Tottenham? :unsure:

KB

Hi Kev,

A Black Gunman gets killed by the Cops and now all Hell breaks loose, Rioting, Looting, 26 Police Injured, 50+ Arrested, as for my opinion? i would be banned for giving it, but you can tell where i stand, to destroy your own neighbourhood is beyond me, we need Syrian Policing at the moment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14423942'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14423942

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Very Kind Regards, Danny

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