ledzepfilm Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Great post. Could of used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecube Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'm a retard sorry. Prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I'm a retard sorry. Well you said it. Just a statement or factual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Since we are supposed to find our own answers here is the proof, as given by a scientific diagram: Pheew, it's good to be deep and meaningless......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiletjake Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Look at sparks by the who and they feel really similar I suggest that you listen to this song instead... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs42sJZR8D0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I don't think Zeppelin would steal from The Who. Now there's a great question for Bill Curbishley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Some more similarities: Both songs are to be found on round records with a hole in the middle, packaged in a sleeve. Both songs are from a rock group with a singer with blonde curls, and a very crazy drummer. Both songs feature electric guitars. This amazing discovery should be made into a book for tin foil hatters. How did this post get overlooked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 How did this post get overlooked? It's amazing and I was wondering the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl of Court Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 It takes a certain amount of musical knowledge to precisely judge alleged resemblances between songs in the field of popular music. There are certain harmonic progressions for example which have been used in hundreds of songs. They are generic and the resemblances are of no matter - look at the 12-bar blues for example. In addition, there are certain common ideas which guitar-based songwriters use because they are effective on the guitar. The alleged resemblance between 'Sparks' and 'TSRTS' comes down merely to this: 'Sparks' is an instrumental constructed by using triads on the top three strings of the guitar, moving over an open D string (functioning as a 'pedal' note). It also has a couple of riffs, one based on D and a climax on E before the return of the D riff. Pedal notes are common in Who songs. The first few bars of TSRTS (only!) move a triad up the neck over a D string pedal. This lasts ... six seconds? ... and is never repeated thereafter. This kind of an idea occurs in many rock songs, including briefly in other Zep numbers such as 'Stairway' (verse links) and 'Over The Hills' (very end of the intro). The resemblance is therefore negligible, of no musical significance and in no way impairs the identity of either song. If TSRTS has a prior influence it lies in the opening of the slower verse section, where the chords C and G lead to a semitonal arpeggio shift between F# and F. This shift is uncommon especially when approached from a C chord. Listen to the verse of Love's 'The Red Telephone' from Forever Changes (1967) an album which Plant revered, and which Page may have heard, where the same F#-F shift is heard at a similar tempo. However, this also does not constitute any kind of a steal, nor does it infringe TSRTS's status as a classic original rock song and in its live version a clever piece of arrangement for a single electric 12-string. I hope this post is enlightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDog71 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I don't hear the similarities at all either. I am not sure if this is looking for something that's not there, or just a matter of someone's ear hearing something different from others'. The only similarity for me is two great songs by two great bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I suggest that you listen to this song instead... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs42sJZR8D0 You do realize Page wrote that song with Jim McCarty, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecube Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Now that's a similarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiletjake Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 You do realize Page wrote that song with Jim McCarty, right? Yes, that was the main reason I posted the song here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Now that's a good match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey1985 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 LOL here is a similarity for sure, the Yardbirds "knowing that I'm losing you". I'm sure most of you have heard this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Tangerine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 LOL here is a similarity for sure, the Yardbirds "knowing that I'm losing you". I'm sure most of you have heard this. Page co-wrote this with Relf. Was never released on a Yardbirds album. Page dusted it off and reworked it for LZIII. Do some research people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Led Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Page co-wrote this with Relf. Was never released on a Yardbirds album. Page dusted it off and reworked it for LZIII. Do some research people. Jimmy Page wrote it . Tangerine Credits (Jimmy Page) For a reason He wrote the words and music. D'uh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 It's just LZ usually didn't give credit to original writers or writers not part of the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Led Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 It's just LZ usually didn't give credit to original writers or writers not part of the band. Doesn't matter I look past the credits. Its the music that matters not the money etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey1985 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yes it is the music that matters, and Bill, what is your deal with the "do some research people" quote? How the fuck do you know what I know or do not know? I posted a song for people to listen to. This isn't a competition for who knows more than the other person. And for your information I have heard both stories that he wrote it with Relf and that he wrote the words and music himself. I have also hear that Jane Relf was upset at the fact that Jimmy gave no credits to Keith so who knows what is true. Did you know that smart ass? Keep your bull shit comments away from my post unless you have something nice to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Well, that's true, but if your songs were recorded by another band, wouldn't you be pissed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Very much indeed Joey. Maybe somebody around the world just found that fact out that Joey said, like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Led Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Well, that's true, but if your songs were recorded by another band, wouldn't you be pissed? No. If my lyrics were used I'D BE PISSED. But Keith didn't write the guitar part so he can fuck himself if he thinks its unfair. Page wrote a fantastic guitar arrangment it didn't get recognition he released it using his new band and it got recognition. Ex.Say I'm in a band I come up with guitar riffs etc.We record a song its meh The band splits I form a new band and we use what I WROTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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