wilsoncb420 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) I disagree. at that date, Bill Grahams recordings were 90% likely to be proshot. Unless at such a big gig, he didn't care and hired an outside film crew. I THINK that they were recorded. Who knows if they kept recording when they saw the performance they were giving and when the issues broke out. Edited March 18, 2013 by wilsoncb420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsoncb420 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Case 2: Landover 77. I recently came across a recording of Heart in 78 at the Cap Centre. MY POINT, again, bc no-one got it before, I guess ???, is LOOK at where the cameras were located based on the camera angles. It is likely in house cameras. They were all in different locations back then, at different spots, lets say, at the kingdome, than the cap centre. -does this mean to YOU that video recordings of landover 77 are still possible? If so, provide photos that rule out screens, in boxes or from above, or that show where the cameras were located at this show. (BTW the cap centre and pontiac videos are all awesome to me bc i know it is how ZEPs videos COULD *at least* look) Heart, Capital Centre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95IYB4-LSgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Aerosmith in Houston a month after Led Zeppelin, two consecutive nights filmed. No on-stage cameras, from similar angles as above. Now, I don't know if Aerosmith had this gig filmed for themselves....that needs to be researched. If not, this might be the strongest "evidence" that it's remotely possible. Edit: the freeze frame/slow motion in between songs is reminiscent of the Seattle video that was used for the projection screens. Having said that, maybe Aerosmith did have the screens in use. Edited March 18, 2013 by publicenemy3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Right now, it's just all speculative. It may have happened...but who knows? Until confirmed...just a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Yes, you're right. With a little digging we may be able to come up with something. It's all moot, though, until there's a snippet of video or a screenshot. Edited March 18, 2013 by publicenemy3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 T Yes, you're right. With a little digging we may be able to come up with something. It's all moot, though, until there's a snippet of video or a screenshot. Then if it does come out, LedZepFilm will perform his magic and synch it correctly. The guy does some good work and is pretty intense Zeppelin fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 T Then if it does come out, ssellers will perform his magic and synch it correctly. The guy does some good work and is pretty intense Zeppelin fan. Fixed that for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 A quote from The Concert File about the May 4, 1973 show:"A closed circuit TV system projected the concert onto giant screens for the benefit of distant spectators." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Could be interesting.I don't understand one thing -- why was the screen even turned on (there were SMPTE color bars displayed on the screen) if there were no cameras at the venue? Edited March 20, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsoncb420 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Aerosmith in Houston a month after Led Zeppelin, two consecutive nights filmed. No on-stage cameras, from similar angles as above. Now, I don't know if Aerosmith had this gig filmed for themselves....that needs to be researched. If not, this might be the strongest "evidence" that it's remotely possible. Edit: the freeze frame/slow motion in between songs is reminiscent of the Seattle video that was used for the projection screens. Having said that, maybe Aerosmith did have the screens in use. speaking of, last year, I posted a video from houston of P Funk or some funk band from Houston in 78 or 79 and it had the same freeze frame between songs. There ya go. Fuel for the locomotive.Which is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 A quote from The Concert File about the May 4, 1973 show: "A closed circuit TV system projected the concert onto giant screens for the benefit of distant spectators." I would love to believe that the show exists as pro shot as much as the next guy, but just because it was filmed doesn't mean it was recorded. But in 1977 it's completly moronic for the existence of only one concert from that tour, the biggest tour that Zeppelin. I would even go as far as saiyng that there are probably multitracks from the LA run from this tour and very possibly from 1975 to. We all know how Jimmy loved and felt about the way Zepp played when they were in Cali, so there is probably pro shots for those shows to. Not seeing cameraman doesn't mean the show wasn't, but there being a screen and and in house system projecting the footage so the fans can see clearly doesn't mean it was recorded either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) If you were filming a concert of the world's biggest band at the time, would you hesitate to press the REC button? Edited March 23, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 http://www.deangoodman.com/jimmy-page/"We had Madison Square Garden numbers that didn’t make the film, and then the rest of the sources were video sources that were just relative to what was going on on the screens, on the gigs."The concerts Jimmy is talking about can be: Atlanta 1973, Earls Court 23-24-25, Seattle, AND Pontiac. I seriously wonder whether he has the Pontiac footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 http://www.deangoodman.com/jimmy-page/ "We had Madison Square Garden numbers that didn’t make the film, and then the rest of the sources were video sources that were just relative to what was going on on the screens, on the gigs." The concerts Jimmy is talking about can be: Atlanta 1973, Earls Court 23-24-25, Seattle, AND Pontiac. I seriously wonder whether he has the Pontiac footage. Knebworth wasn't intended to end up as a video DVD, probably as a live album, so yeah Jimmy was talking about those and many more others that were projected to the crowd that we don't know of. Zurich is possibly the same thing - multitracked show (we all know that Jimmy wanted to release a chronological live album with snogs from each year) and possibly a video too, as Knebs as said. I am fairly certain that there are at least two multitracked shows from each tour Zeppelin did from 1970 to 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsoncb420 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 While I'm not in my usual whiskey stupor (apologies), heres a question. Pittsburgh '73. Why were two 16mm's rolling, how much is supposed to exist, and any ideas or guesses where it went? Heres a screenshot from a clip from a menu on DVD- http://www.ledzeppelin.com/photos/led-zeppelin/1972-1973/pittsburgh-1973-0. It is obviously 16mm. Now, see the guy on the right of the stage, stage left, kneeling and holding a camera? Exactly where the other video clip was filmed from? What are the chances, if it was just brief segments, that two 16mm cameras were rolling at the same time? (No screens there AFAIK in 73) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Are you talking about this photo? I also think there's a cameraman near the left side of the stage. Edited March 26, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsoncb420 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 exactly. and since that they both, at least around the same time or at the same time are filming, they must have got a good chunk of the show? If not, some good partials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) You're right, there were at least two cameramen on stage simultaneously filming the event. I hope they captured a sizable chunk. Edited March 26, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) It was just test footage for TSRTS. I doubt they shot much. Edited March 26, 2013 by ledzepfilm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I wish you could buy more of them Can anyone list all Led Zeppelin concerts that were shot profesionally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Those cameraman probably filmed this: They were probably friends of the band who just wanted to catch the moment, I doubt that it had anything to do with recording for a Live Album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Yes, it's just film shot by a roadie. Probably the same person who caught the 29th on 8mm. Edited March 26, 2013 by ledzepfilm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Those cameraman probably filmed thisMost of that footage was shot from the right side of the stage. There was another cameraman positioned near the left side, shooting from below. Edited March 27, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Now that is very neat,I am so obsessed with these guys,I wish I could turn back time Those cameraman probably filmed this: They were probably friends of the band who just wanted to catch the moment, I doubt that it had anything to do with recording for a Live Album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Most of that footage was shot from the right side of the stage. There was another cameraman positioned near the left side, shooting from below. Again, it was just test footage. There is no doubt in my mind that they shot more than those two clips, but definitely not the entire concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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