Administrators sam_webmaster Posted March 4, 2013 Administrators Share Posted March 4, 2013 There were two large video screens at Atlanta 1973. No proof that any copy exists though. "For this Atlanta date, a closed-circuit TV system projected the group on two 16 foot screens..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) Very interesting. Any photos with the screen/cameras in action? I haven't been able to locate many photos of that concert.By the way, the article mentions that Concerts West was responsible for filming. Can we contact them? Edited March 4, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) UPDATECirculatingTV:17 March 1969 - Gladsaxe, Denmark @ TV Byen (Danmarks Radio)25 March 1969 - Staines, England @ Staines Lino Factory (Supershow)27 March 1969 - Bremen, Germany @ Beat Club19 June 1969 - Paris, France @ Tour Le SceneShows:9 January 1970 - London, England @ Royal Albert Hall27 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden28 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden29 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden24 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena25 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena17 July 1977 - Seattle, Washington, USA @ The Kingdome4 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)11 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)13 July 1985 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA @ John F. Kennedy Stadium (Live Aid)14 May 1988 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden (Atlantic Records 40th Anniversary)12 January 1995 - New York City, New York, USA @ Waldorf Astoria Hotel (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction)10 December 2007 - London, England @ The O2 Arena (Ahmet Ertegun Tribute Concert)Uncirculating (Confirmed)23 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena - confirmed by several photos and Kevin Shirley's interview30 April 1977 - Pontiac, Michigan, USA @ Pontiac Silverdome -- confirmed by several photos5 December 2007 - Shepperton, Surrey, England @ Shepperton Studios (only single-camera footage circulates. The footage shot by the professional cameras was supposedly not recorded.)Rumored to have been professionally filmed21 July 1969 - New York City, New York, USA @ Central Park28 June 1970 - Shepton Mallet, England @ Royal Bath & West Showground (Bath Festival 1970) -- see this4 May 1973 - Atlanta, Georgia, USA @ Atlanta Braves Stadium -- see this.21 May 1977 - Houston, Texas, USA @ The Summit -- could have been filmed from an elevated position. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwS1tC9Mp00.30 May 1977 - Landover, Maryland, USA @ Capital Center -- see this.29 June 1980 - Zurich, Switzerland @ Hallenstadion Edited March 4, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 As I said in another thread, there are more recordings out there that we don't even know about, like the Atlanta show being projected into screens back in 1973, and it took 40 years for us to find that out that there's probably some tape of a pro shot of that show lying around or being hoarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom kid Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I really don't see why the band didn't use the in house closed circuit videos at most venues in 1977, we would have a plethora of pro shot videos if they had done imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Confirmed: Atlanta 1973UPDATECirculatingTV:17 March 1969 - Gladsaxe, Denmark @ TV Byen (Danmarks Radio)25 March 1969 - Staines, England @ Staines Lino Factory (Supershow)27 March 1969 - Bremen, Germany @ Beat Club19 June 1969 - Paris, France @ Tour Le SceneShows:9 January 1970 - London, England @ Royal Albert Hall27 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden28 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden29 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden24 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena25 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena17 July 1977 - Seattle, Washington, USA @ The Kingdome4 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)11 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)13 July 1985 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA @ John F. Kennedy Stadium (Live Aid)14 May 1988 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden (Atlantic Records 40th Anniversary)12 January 1995 - New York City, New York, USA @ Waldorf Astoria Hotel (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction)10 December 2007 - London, England @ The O2 Arena (Ahmet Ertegun Tribute Concert)Uncirculating (Confirmed)4 May 1973 - Atlanta, Georgia, USA @ Atlanta Braves Stadium -- see this and this.23 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena - confirmed by several photos and Kevin Shirley's interview30 April 1977 - Pontiac, Michigan, USA @ Pontiac Silverdome -- confirmed by several photos5 December 2007 - Shepperton, Surrey, England @ Shepperton Studios (only single-camera footage circulates. The footage shot by the professional cameras was supposedly not recorded.)Rumored to have been professionally filmed21 July 1969 - New York City, New York, USA @ Central Park28 June 1970 - Shepton Mallet, England @ Royal Bath & West Showground (Bath Festival 1970) -- see this21 May 1977 - Houston, Texas, USA @ The Summit -- could have been filmed from an elevated position. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwS1tC9Mp00.30 May 1977 - Landover, Maryland, USA @ Capital Center -- see this.29 June 1980 - Zurich, Switzerland @ Hallenstadion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Communication Breakdown, filmed sometime between Feb 11 and 15th, 1969, at Thee Image Club in Miami, "...probably one of two numbers video taped for "The Rick Shaw Show", a local TV show hosted by a popular Miami Top 40 Radio DJ". http://www.ledzeppelin.com/video/communication-breakdown-1969-promo-film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Why did you add Zurich back in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Why did you add Zurich back in there?Rumors that the Zurich show was filmed and is being hoarded are running rampant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Communication Breakdown, filmed sometime between Feb 11 and 15th, 1969, at Thee Image Club in Miami, "...probably one of two numbers video taped for "The Rick Shaw Show", a local TV show hosted by a popular Miami Top 40 Radio DJ". http://www.ledzeppelin.com/video/communication-breakdown-1969-promo-filmAdded: promosUPDATECirculatingTV:February 1969 - Atlantic Records Studio (Communication Breakdown promo)11-15 February 1969 - Miami, Florida, USA @ Thee Image Club17 March 1969 - Gladsaxe, Denmark @ TV Byen (Danmarks Radio)25 March 1969 - Staines, England @ Staines Lino Factory (Supershow)27 March 1969 - Bremen, Germany @ Beat Club19 June 1969 - Paris, France @ Tour Le SceneShows:9 January 1970 - London, England @ Royal Albert Hall27 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden28 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden29 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden24 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena25 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena17 July 1977 - Seattle, Washington, USA @ The Kingdome4 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)11 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)13 July 1985 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA @ John F. Kennedy Stadium (Live Aid)14 May 1988 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden (Atlantic Records 40th Anniversary)12 January 1995 - New York City, New York, USA @ Waldorf Astoria Hotel (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction)10 December 2007 - London, England @ The O2 Arena (Ahmet Ertegun Tribute Concert)Uncirculating (Confirmed)4 May 1973 - Atlanta, Georgia, USA @ Atlanta Braves Stadium -- see this and this.23 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena - confirmed by several photos and Kevin Shirley's interview30 April 1977 - Pontiac, Michigan, USA @ Pontiac Silverdome -- confirmed by several photos5 December 2007 - Shepperton, Surrey, England @ Shepperton Studios (only single-camera footage circulates. The footage shot by the professional cameras was supposedly not recorded.)Rumored to have been professionally filmed21 July 1969 - New York City, New York, USA @ Central Park28 June 1970 - Shepton Mallet, England @ Royal Bath & West Showground (Bath Festival 1970) -- see this21 May 1977 - Houston, Texas, USA @ The Summit -- could have been filmed from an elevated position. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwS1tC9Mp00.30 May 1977 - Landover, Maryland, USA @ Capital Center -- see this.29 June 1980 - Zurich, Switzerland @ Hallenstadion Edited March 6, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 February 1969 - Atlantic Records Studio (Communication Breakdown promo) 11-15 February 1969 - Miami, Florida, USA @ Thee Image Club Aren't these one and the same?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators sam_webmaster Posted March 8, 2013 Administrators Share Posted March 8, 2013 Not a "live performance", but there was a TV news report / Robert Plant interview at the Montreal airport on CFCF, April 1970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-o-S-o Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Can I please say one thing concerning the "uncirculating" part? It's complete BS. If a show was filmed, that does NOT mean the film was also saved, and even if it was, 40 years is a long time and it's perfectly possible for footage to get destroyed in such a period. Edited March 9, 2013 by Z-o-S-o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I agree, it should be more like "Screens in Use at Show." Uncirculating leads one to believe (at least in my view) that the shows are out of Page's hand's and in the hands of private collectors, but not openly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) "Uncirculating" means that the show was definitely filmed but the tape is:1. In Page's vaults and has not been released2. In private collectors' vaults3. Lost/destroyed Edited March 9, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Knebs Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 2a. In lucky bastard's possession but shared copies with members of LZ- status unknown . regarding lost/destroyed- Unless you are able to name a tape that has been "destroyed" I am unaware of any that have been destroyed. Unless you are able to name a tape that has been "lost" I am unaware of any that are "lost." I have audio tapes from the 50's that have not degraded noticeably. Have video from the 60s. Keep expecting it to fall apart due to all the urban legend about the tape boogey man rotting them away. Hasn't happened. They sit in a vault with no special care and are just fine. Dubbed them to 1" masters back in the '80s with backup to cassette for listening. Transferred to CD in late '80s. Transferred to digital in 2003. Ready to transfer to a higher resolution digital sometime this year. If my tapes are ok, it seems to me that someone who knows what they are doing isn't having a problem with their pile o' tapes either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I wouldn't call it urban legend, it's well documented. It all depends on the kinds of tapes you have. Very specific formulations of Ampex (among other brands) go sticky. If you have a box of mid 70's Ampex 406/407 that hasn't gotten sticky/stated to shed, consider yourself lucky. Not sure if vhs tapes have the same problem, not into old video tape collecting as I am audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Led Zep played on the BBC TV program How Late It Is, March 21st, 1969 but the tape got wiped...I think they played Communication Breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) UPDATECirculatingTV:11-15 February 1969 - Miami, Florida, USA @ Thee Image Club (Communication Breakdown promo)17 March 1969 - Gladsaxe, Denmark @ TV Byen (Danmarks Radio)25 March 1969 - Staines, England @ Staines Lino Factory (Supershow)27 March 1969 - Bremen, Germany @ Beat Club19 June 1969 - Paris, France @ Tour Le SceneShows:9 January 1970 - London, England @ Royal Albert Hall27 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden28 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden29 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden24 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena25 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena17 July 1977 - Seattle, Washington, USA @ The Kingdome4 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)11 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival)13 July 1985 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA @ John F. Kennedy Stadium (Live Aid)14 May 1988 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden (Atlantic Records 40th Anniversary)12 January 1995 - New York City, New York, USA @ Waldorf Astoria Hotel (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction)10 December 2007 - London, England @ The O2 Arena (Ahmet Ertegun Tribute Concert)Uncirculating (Confirmed)21 March 1969 - Shepherds Bush, London, England @ Lime Grove Studios (How Late It Is) -- the show was filmed and aired but the tapes were wiped by the BBC. See this.4 May 1973 - Atlanta, Georgia, USA @ Atlanta Braves Stadium -- see this and this.23 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena - confirmed by several photos and Kevin Shirley's interview30 April 1977 - Pontiac, Michigan, USA @ Pontiac Silverdome -- confirmed by several photos5 December 2007 - Shepperton, Surrey, England @ Shepperton Studios (only single-camera footage circulates. The footage shot by the professional cameras was supposedly not recorded.)Rumored to have been professionally filmed21 July 1969 - New York City, New York, USA @ Central Park28 June 1970 - Shepton Mallet, England @ Royal Bath & West Showground (Bath Festival 1970) -- see this21 May 1977 - Houston, Texas, USA @ The Summit -- could have been filmed from an elevated position. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwS1tC9Mp00.30 May 1977 - Landover, Maryland, USA @ Capital Center -- see this.29 June 1980 - Zurich, Switzerland @ Hallenstadion Edited March 10, 2013 by Geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Take Zurich out there isn't any evidence that would suggest the show was recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Circulating TV: 11-15 February 1969 - Miami, Florida, USA @ Thee Image Club (Communication Breakdown promo) 17 March 1969 - Gladsaxe, Denmark @ TV Byen (Danmarks Radio) 25 March 1969 - Staines, England @ Staines Lino Factory (Supershow) 27 March 1969 - Bremen, Germany @ Beat Club 19 June 1969 - Paris, France @ Tour Le Scene Shows: 9 January 1970 - London, England @ Royal Albert Hall 27 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden 28 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden 29 July 1973 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden 24 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena 25 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena 17 July 1977 - Seattle, Washington, USA @ The Kingdome 4 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival) 11 August 1979 - Stevenage, England @ Knebworth House Grounds (Knebworth Festival) 13 July 1985 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA @ John F. Kennedy Stadium (Live Aid) 14 May 1988 - New York City, New York, USA @ Madison Square Garden (Atlantic Records 40th Anniversary) 12 January 1995 - New York City, New York, USA @ Waldorf Astoria Hotel (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction) 10 December 2007 - London, England @ The O2 Arena (Ahmet Ertegun Tribute Concert)Uncirculating (Confirmed) 21 March 1969 - Shepherds Bush, London, England @ Lime Grove Studios (How Late It Is) -- the show was filmed and aired but the tapes were wiped by the BBC. See this. 4 May 1973 - Atlanta, Georgia, USA @ Atlanta Braves Stadium -- see this and this. 23 May 1975 - London, England @ Earls Court Arena - confirmed by several photos and Kevin Shirley's interview 30 April 1977 - Pontiac, Michigan, USA @ Pontiac Silverdome -- confirmed by several photos 5 December 2007 - Shepperton, Surrey, England @ Shepperton Studios (only single-camera footage circulates. The footage shot by the professional cameras was supposedly not recorded.)Rumored to have been professionally filmed 28 June 1970 - Shepton Mallet, England @ Royal Bath & West Showground (Bath Festival 1970) -- see this Let me knock some of these out: 21 July 1969 - New York City, New York, USA @ Central Park - rumor, but not professional film. 21 May 1977 - Houston, Texas, USA @ The Summit -- could have been filmed from an elevated position. See this. - Just because The Who were filmed two years earlier doesn't mean Zep was filmed. 30 May 1977 - Landover, Maryland, USA @ Capital Center -- see this. If you actually read the photo, it clearly states that the screens were not in use. 29 June 1980 - Zurich, Switzerland @ Hallenstadion - ONLY FROM ONE SOURCE. That was from an email of all kinds of claims that haven't surfaced. Edited March 10, 2013 by ledzepfilm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Knebs Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I do believe Geezer's list is accurate and complete as far as concerts being recorded on above consumer grade equipment. ...hesitate to say they are all "Pro-Shot." I have been suprised many times at releases that I believed did not exist, truly in my heart was convinced they did not exist. However, in the case of Landover, Houston and Zurich- all three venues had/have sophisticated in-house A/V setups which have provided many bootlegs over the years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Centre (look at AS A CONCERT VENUE paragraph for Landover) The Summit had an even more elaborate set-up. Tremendous boots have come from the in-house A/V capabilities (not Pro-Shot) Hallenstadion has four A/V decks since opening. Two at side stage about 60' back from the platform, two at the corners in the rear. It's not my place to say who has or does not have proof. I do appreciate the work of the individuals who keep track of this for all of us on the forum. I don't know if Landover, Houston and Zurich were "Pro-Shot"- I do believe the recordings exist. A/V crow's nest #2 at the rear of the arena stage left can accomodate multiple operators and configuarations. The two white fixaters are mounted dollies for equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Even footage from a single stationary camera can be considered "proshot". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) ^ Indeed, but in the case of Houston and Zurich there are no evidence of cameras in photos, and as I explained earlier, people from the Houston show claimed that the video screens were not in use. Zurich is just a rumor with no evidence. For Landover, the caption for that picture of the screen claimed that the screens were not in action. Edited March 13, 2013 by ledzepfilm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I stumbled across this old Proximity article about the "Ten Holy Grails" of Zeppelin collecting. Very interesting how so many of the then-rumored videos did, in fact, emerge later. This was written before there was a Seattle video, or Earls Court, even. Number Ten remains particularly intriguing... http://www.oldbuckeye.com/prox/holygrail.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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